Scope for Custom AR-10 - Horus Vision??


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Anthony
November 9, 2006, 07:31 PM
Hello Everyone,

I'm expecting a custom AR-10 to be delivered next month and was looking at the Horus Vision Tactical "Super Falcon" 4-16x50 Steel Body Illuminated Rifle Scope for it.

Does anyone have any experience with the Horus brand of scopes and/or reticles?

Thoughts?

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Jim Watson
November 9, 2006, 07:50 PM
A friend of mine has worked with a couple. He says they can be useful in estimating and holding for range and windage if IF you know the system inside and out. Or have the matching Palm Pilot programmed to do the heavy figuring for you.
If you don't work at it, the complex reticle is just a confusing mess.

AK103K
November 9, 2006, 08:06 PM
They dont have a lighted reticle that I'm aware of, but Shepherd makes a great and simple ranging scope that works as advertised. No math involved, fit the target in the circle and shoot.

Chris Rhines
November 9, 2006, 09:13 PM
Using the Horus reticle requires either a Palm Pilot with ballistic software or an accurate dope card calibrated in Mils. That's really no different from a Mil-Dot reticle.

I like the Horus reticle, but the Horus scopes don't have a great reputation. Fortunately, other high-quality optics are available with Horus reticles. Check the website.

- Chris

Zak Smith
November 9, 2006, 09:32 PM
I have shot the Horus H25 extensively for over a year, on my .308 AI-AW. The scope is a USO SN3 3.2-17.

The Horus reticle shines when you need to engage multiple large targets from 300-700 yards, in my opinion. The benefit to the Horus reticle is getting rid of the need to dial elevation (or windage), so it starts to be useful beyond the point-blank range of the cartridge (say 250-300 yards). Because of the reticle line thickness and general "busyness" of the reticle, it is most useful on large targets, such as IPSC silhouette targets.

When using it on small targets, it can be difficult to get a good sight picture due to the line size and target area being obscured by other parts of the reticle. The smallest/furthest target I have been able to engage with the H25 is a 1 MOA plate at about 700 yards. Anything smaller or further, I cannot resolve a sight picture.

The Horus is most useful in multiple-target engagements, when the time it takes to dial elevation would be a liability. If you are not under time constraints, you might as well dial (and I still often do with the H25) . For the time advantage to be effective, you also need to have your dope memorize.

To convert dope in MOA to dope in mils, simply divide every "MOA" value by 3.43.

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Anthony
November 10, 2006, 12:10 PM
Thank you for the opinions everyone, and especially to you Zak.

Your detailed opinion and your website have proved invaluble in the search for my first true high quality tactical scope.

Thanks for taking the time to respond.

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