Guns you wish they'd make?
Nightcrawler
May 20, 2003, 05:09 AM
What guns do you wish some company would make? Is there something you want a specific company to make, or do you have a design in mind that you'd just like to see put into production? Is there a gun that's no longer produced that you'd like to see made new again, with modern materials and construction (if it's an old design)?
For me, I have a few.
-Idealized Pump Shotgun. This design would combine the best features of the Big Three (Remington, Winchester, Mossberg) into what I feel would be a near-ideal pump shotgun. It'd have a steel tang safety, like a Mossberg 590A1, a steel receiver, like a Remington 870, and the super fast, super smooth rotary bolt of the Winchester 1300. Combine that with a 20" barrel, 8-round magazine tube, ghost ring sights, parkerized finish, heat shield, and I'd be in hog heaven.
-Thumper Carbine: This one wouldn't be legal for me to own, but I still want one. It'd be a lightweight, gas-operated, semiautomatic carbine, with a 10" barrel and folding stock. It'd fire .50AE and .45 Win Mag from a 20 round detachable box magazine, and would have an adjustable aperature sight.
-Civilian Legal Thumper Carbine: Similar to the Ruger PC9, but in .45 Win Mag and .50AE.
-Ruger PC carbine in .45ACP and 10mm.
-Semiautomatic sporting rifle that had the good looks of the Browning BAR Mk. II, but was as reliable, easy to clean, and easy to take apart as a military design. Would have 5 and 10 round detachable box magazines (five for hunting, ten for the range), and would be in .308, .243, .30-06, .270, .300 Win Mag, .338 Win Mag, and .45-70.
I'll probably think of more later.
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Gatsu
May 20, 2003, 05:27 AM
I have weird tastes in guns, so I'd be happy if someone would make a break-open .454 revolver with the greatly disliked Raging Bull style barrel(even tho it'd probably have a weird look around the hinge so it could open) without the porting. :neener: I'd settle for a .44 mag version since I've been told the break open design isn't all that strong. :what:
faustulus
May 20, 2003, 05:28 AM
A beretta with a frame mounted safety.
MicroBalrog
May 20, 2003, 05:32 AM
A 15-round mag for the .50 AE Desert Eagle.
Rembrandt
May 20, 2003, 05:42 AM
...an exact replica of the Desert Eagle, only down sized in .22LR....with a double stack magazine.... :) complete with easy removeable barrels just like the big boy.
winwun
May 20, 2003, 06:42 AM
A .22 auto long gun, preferably in carbine length that would accept as a clip the standard styrene box of 100 cartridges.
critter
May 20, 2003, 07:58 AM
Nightcrawler, I'd like to see them make your pump shotgun with a full length mag tube BUT 'shrink fit' it to a short, fat pistol round like .44 mag or .45 Colt. Talk about 'urban assault rifle'!!!!! All around fun gun!
swingcatt
May 20, 2003, 08:06 AM
Ruger MK II style target pistol in .22 Mag and .17 HMR.
SC
MrAcheson
May 20, 2003, 08:31 AM
Second critters suggestion. A pistol caliber pump rifle of modern design would be really nice. .357 or .44 mag with 16" to 20" barrel. I believe the IMI timberwolf is similar but out of production.
haukehaien
May 20, 2003, 08:54 AM
Winchester to start making the Model 06 pump .22 again. With a .17/22 barrel option, and a .22 Magnum/.17 HMR upper as an option as well.
A 7.62 x 25 MAK 90.
Deadman
May 20, 2003, 09:23 AM
-Pump action 5.56mm rifle that utilises detachable box magazines.
-Pump action .357magnum rifle, tube or box fed.
(In case you can't tell, I can't own semi-auto firearms...)
erikm
May 20, 2003, 09:24 AM
Well, It probably wouldn't be legal, but how about the following?
A weapon with a two barrel over-and-under layout, with the upper barrel (and action) being a 12 guage semiauto shotgun (bullpup action; magazine fed; no chokes) and the lower barrel (and action) being a magazine fed semiauto rifle in either a pistol caliber or 5.56mm. Call it an Urban Defence Weapon :D
Cheers,
ErikM:evil:
Bonker
May 20, 2003, 09:27 AM
A ladies version of the SP-101
A 4 barreled 12ga shotgun with 18" barrels mounted in a bullpup stock. It would have a rotating firing pin and would be a break top design. Total length is 26".
This would be the ultimate home defense gun for me. 4 potent shots, super reliable, simple to use even in the dark, small but shoulder fired.
Bigdog
May 20, 2003, 10:29 AM
1) A modern M1 Carbine in stainless, chambered for .45 WinMag, for a decent price.
2) A heavy-barreled Martini action .22LR for a decent price, with Ruger-style machined-in scope bases.
Meowhead
May 20, 2003, 10:34 AM
Those Ruger pistol caliber carbines are just begging for larger calibres. Say 10mm, .45ACP, .44 Magnum even.
Break-open .44 Mag revolver with same grip shape as the S&W Schofeld Russian.
Replica of Mauser C96, stainless steel, in 7.62 and 9mm.
Modular pump-action carbine in .44 Mag or something like that. Interchangeable barrels, stocks, magazine, sights and the like. Gun could be configured into a long-barreled rifle for hunting or plinking, or a short-barrelled pistol-gripped thing the ATF would absolutely hate. Perfect for a trip to the range, or home defense.
TarpleyG
May 20, 2003, 10:45 AM
A weapon with a two barrel over-and-under layout, with the upper barrel (and action) being a 12 guage semiauto shotgun (bullpup action; magazine fed; no chokes) and the lower barrel (and action) being a magazine fed semiauto rifle in either a pistol caliber or 5.56mm. Call it an Urban Defence Weapon
When I was a kid I recall seeing something like this. It was a 20 ga O/U with a .22 LR underneath. The 20 ga was break open though, I think. Don't remember the make or model, but it was slick.
GT
AJ Dual
May 20, 2003, 10:48 AM
Kel-Tec Sub9/Sub 2000 folding carbine chambered in 7.62x25 Tokarev compatible with some cheap surplus hicap, like PPsH mags.
An affordable (sub $600) .357 mag that fires from the bottom of the cylinder, like a Mateba, but normal SA/DA not a semi-auto. Blocky modern styling like a steel match racegun etc. Break action for easy loading. Integral scope/accessory rail in the topweight full length lug.
Legal Saiga 12K with folding stock, pistol grip, and 10 round mags.
A bullpup semi-auto pistol. Kind of like a short version of the Bushmaster armpistol but in a pistol caliber. Forward pistol grip almost (but not quite) flush with the muzzle, and a magazine still at the rear where the grip frame/magwell traditionally is that acts as a wrist brace. Wierd, I know, but I think it would be neat. (but impossible to holster probably.)
Mostly though, domestic production, or licensed production in the US of HK's; FN's; AUG's etc. to get around the import bans, but take advantage of the AWB sunset that we'll hopefully win.
Hot brass
May 20, 2003, 11:14 AM
Ruger to make the SBH in 454, and 480.
For me only, a liquid metal gun, that would change physical shape as I wanted, and any cal:evil:
Mastrogiacomo
May 20, 2003, 11:39 AM
Guns I wish were out there? Glock 19M and Glock 26M that shoots 8 or 9 with one in the chamber to satisfy my permit requirments and allow me to get a Glock 9mm. Also would love this for a medium and full size Sig in a 9mm. Love to see a full size 92FS type M with 9 and one in the chamber so I could get the gun I've always wanted -- but can't buy.:banghead:
Sean Smith
May 20, 2003, 11:46 AM
Since I'm dreaming...
I wish Colt would re-introduce the Delta Elite, with a few cheap design changes. Flat-bottom firing pin stop to delay unlocking. Steel guide rod (GI-style short, or long, I'm not fanatical either way) with a single 20 pound recoil spring and a buff. Make it a pre-Enhanced Series 80, since those looked nicest IMHO, with the relief cut on the frame that cured the stress crack problem, of course. You'd have a 10mm 1911 that would shoot nicer and last longer than the original... or just about any other sort of 10mm out there. Really, the gun that Colt should have introduced back in 1987.
Re-introduce the Bren X, only with extractors that don't break like pretzels and plenty of magazines for everybody!
:cool:
ms1200
May 20, 2003, 11:50 AM
I would like to see ruger make a double rifle and offer it in
.375h&h, .416 rem mag. and .458lott
Snowdog
May 20, 2003, 11:58 AM
Ruger PC carbine in .45ACP and 10mm
Yes please!
I'd also love to have H&K's .45acp carbine, but if they'd only drop the price a tad.
I'd like to see Marlin beef up their model 60 slightly to accommodate the .380acp to construct the ultimate, tube-fed short-range plinker. I'd imagine the capacity would be comparable the existing .22LR models.
hksw
May 20, 2003, 12:03 PM
10 mm USP
10 mm P220
MJRW
May 20, 2003, 12:06 PM
A cross between a Glock and an XD. Give me a grip safety, a low bore axis, and that glock 19 size and ill be a happy camper.
cordex
May 20, 2003, 12:19 PM
Reliable, full-auto, hopper fed, .22 LR minigun with integral sound moderators.
Buy ammo in bulk, pour a couple boxes into the hopper and let 'er rip.
blades67
May 20, 2003, 12:22 PM
I'd like to see an MP5/10 for public consumtion, and a P220 in 10mm Auto.:cool: :D
glockten
May 20, 2003, 12:22 PM
Pump action 5.56mm rifle that utilises detachable box magazines
DPMS (http://tp-commerce.techpro.com/pantherarms/shopexd.asp?id=123) offers one, the A-15 Panther.
Another request for a .22WMR Ruger Mark II.
A 10mm Marlin Camp Carbine.
A .45 Win. Mag. Desert Eagle.
Skunkabilly
May 20, 2003, 01:10 PM
I don't know about guns, but carbon fiber grips for the Vertec and P7M8 would be groovy.
Ol' Badger
May 20, 2003, 01:11 PM
YEA BABY:evil:
firestar
May 20, 2003, 01:23 PM
It is probably made but I want a Beretta Vertec with no light rail and in DA/SA with a decocker.
Also I want a BHP with a DA/SA trigger and a decocker where the safety is now. It needs to have about the same dimensions as what it does now with the DA trigger only being maybe a fraction of an inch longer.
Desert Dog
May 20, 2003, 01:34 PM
Ruger PC45, using P90 magazines.
Affordable M1 Carbine chambered in .45 Win Mag.
Ruger Blackhawk in .454 Casull.
Ruger SP101 or GP100 in .41 magnum
Affordable Colt Anaconda in .45 Colt
.45 ACP upper for an AR-15 OTHER than Olympic
..and off the subject slightly:
Full set of stocks for British Enfields in polymer (not that POS Monte Carlo sporter thing you can buy)
Mike
Sarge
May 20, 2003, 01:41 PM
A fixed-sight S&W .38-44 Heavy Duty, modern steel & heat treating, 4-5-6" barrels, blue or bright nickel- and chambered in .45 Super/ACP. No MIM, NO Keyhole lock, no weird trapezoid cylinder release or frame-mounted firing pin. Just vintage S&W, redone with all the advantages of modern technology.
Believe I'll step outside now, and see if Haley's Comet hits me before the end of my lunch break- about as likely as getting a new-production revolver like I just described.
Andrew Wyatt
May 20, 2003, 01:46 PM
a straight pull rifle that takes m-14, FAL, or G3 magazines in .308, AK magazines in 7.62X39, or ar magazines in .223.
I have the design for it in my head (tubular reciever, ar style bolt, carrier,fire control) and i need to draw it up in autocad.
The target price retail for the gun would be about 450 dollars, and it'd come standard with a long weaver rail on tip of the reciever, sling swivel studs, one magazine well in the caliber of your choice, and would weigh 6 pounds in .308, and 5.5 pounds in .223 and 7.62X39.
cratz2
May 20, 2003, 02:02 PM
I think my ideal bolt rifle would be a medium mauser action in 6.5x55 Improved. Stock that was attractive wood and wouldn't split but that was very light weight - full size in every way except with about a 12.5" LOP. Barrel would be about a #3 or #4 contour and 18" long. You'd be left with a slighty muzzle heavy rifle firing a very well proven bullet in a light rifle capable of taking large elk but steady enough to hunt coyote with way out there and it wouldn't beat the shooter up at all. I don't so much dislike the weight, but the more I handle them, the more I like short barreled rifles and as much as I like Ruger rifles, I just don't like how their compacts feel much at all. And to make it perfect, it would have the same gunmetal blue that Weatherby puts on their Deluxe rifles. I'd gladly pay $1,000 for a rifle like this... heck, it would replace 3 or 4 other rifles! Then put a Burris 4-12AO Compact scope on it and be done with buying rifles forever! :p
And since I'm making this up as I go... I guess some Hornady loads for the Improved version with a slightly faster burning powder that could get the best out of that 18" barrel - at least 2,600 fps out of a 140 Gr bullet and abotu 2,900 fps out of the 95 Gr bullet. Load them with the 95 Gr Vmax for coyotes and smaller and 140 Gr X Bullets for everything else and the 139 Gr Lapua Scenars for long distance target work.
Matt G
May 20, 2003, 02:30 PM
I would love to see an affordable (Under $600), reliable lever rifle and/or carbine in .454 Cassul. Someone was telling me that there's one coming out, but I haven't seen one, and wonder why Winchester and Marlin haven't put one out. Consider how nice the option would be to shoot .45 Colt or .454 out of it. :)
Hey, while we're dreaming, let's make the magazine full-length, put receiver ghost ring peep sights on it, and offer it in stainless, with sling swivels. :)
M67
May 20, 2003, 03:18 PM
Cratz2, that sounds like a pretty nice rifle, I've been thinking along the same lines.
ErikM:A weapon with a two barrel over-and-under layout, with the upper barrel (and action) being a 12 guage semiauto shotgun (bullpup action; magazine fed; no chokes) and the lower barrel (and action) being a magazine fed semiauto rifle in either a pistol caliber or 5.56mm. Call it an Urban Defence Weapon Behold the Crossfire. This thing is pump action, not self loading, but it fills your other criteria. I think the rifle part takes AR magazines. I have not fired it, but I have seen one - the picture does not give it credit, it's even uglier in real life.
cratz2
May 20, 2003, 03:31 PM
And still my idea for a lower priced version of the Blazer rifle... mabye not quite perfectly fitted but nicely... Black textured wood, matte blue. Rifle with one barrel for $800, extra barrels $300 unless you bought at the same time then you'd get $50. They could also have a few standard packages that included to barrels and you'd get a full $100 off of those. 22-250/308, 243/308, 270/30-06
A 270 and 35 Whelen combo is what I would look for.
Boats
May 20, 2003, 04:50 PM
An eight shot slamfire capable Ithaca Model 37 that could use Remmy 870 accessories on the stock, foregrip, and sights.
cool45auto
May 20, 2003, 05:09 PM
faustulus: The Billenium has that frame mounted safety.
I'm with Skunk on the grips for the Vertec!
Mannlicher
May 20, 2003, 08:41 PM
Smith should bring out additional cylinders for their revolvers. An extra cylinder in .357 Bain&Davis for example, or of course an extra in .45 ACP to go with your model 625. .22 Mag with the K-22, and so on.
Quintin Likely
May 20, 2003, 08:55 PM
P7M8s for about $800ish NIB.
Schuey2002
May 20, 2003, 09:06 PM
Sig 550's (that are made in the USA) that use M16/AR-15 mags..
Oh, and I want one in the 1K price range..;)
12-34hom
May 20, 2003, 09:08 PM
Vote # 2 for H&K usp in 10mm.
12-34hom.
BlkHawk73
May 20, 2003, 09:19 PM
I'd like to see additional model in the Heckler & Koch P7 series. Perhaps the re-introduction of the P7M10 and P7K3 or the full production of the P7M7.
hksw
May 20, 2003, 09:26 PM
Man, if HK ever comes out with a production M7, they should make a 10 mm, maybe call it P7MX (X as in Roman numeral). Unlikely though as they would have already done so with the mag cap limit.
gbelleh
May 20, 2003, 10:39 PM
Vote #3 for 10mm USP
I would like to see H&K make a true pocket gun in 9mm, similar in size to a Kahr PM9 or smaller.
Schuey2002
May 20, 2003, 11:16 PM
Oh, lest I forget.:rolleyes:
I also want a U.S. made ( in a real H&K factory ) semiauto G36 that again..
takes AR-15 mags. :p
Ivanimal
May 21, 2003, 01:35 AM
I would love to see an affordable (Under $600), reliable lever rifle and/or carbine in .454 Cassul. Someone was telling me that there's one coming out, but I haven't seen one, and wonder why Winchester and Marlin haven't put one out. Consider how nice the option would be to shoot .45 Colt or .454 out of it.
http://www.legacysports.com/product/specs/puma.htm
Because Puma already has.
When I was a kid I recall seeing something like this. It was a 20 ga O/U with a .22 LR underneath. The 20 ga was break open though, I think. Don't remember the make or model, but it was slick.
http://www.eaacorp.com/firearms/longguns//overunder/huntingcombo/izh94words2.shtml
Dirt cheap as well!
:what:
citizen
May 21, 2003, 07:48 AM
Southpaw versions of EVERYTHING!!!!!!:cool:
RandyB
May 21, 2003, 12:03 PM
A pump shotgun with the following:
A garand/m-14, M-1 type safety ( or a tang safety for us lefties) with a 18 to 20 inch barrel. Have ghost ring night sights and pump comes with surefire or other tact. light. Oh and screw-in chokes.
Marlin lever actions with tang safety.
Cosmoline
May 21, 2003, 12:20 PM
If I had to pick just one thing, I'd say that the 8x57JS should be introduced in more modern rifles. It's easy to find a workaday Mauser in it, but much more difficult to find a modern, scoped hunting rifle that will really allow full use of this awesome cartridge.
SRYnidan
May 21, 2003, 11:32 PM
A marlin 1984 take down in stainless.
.357
.41
.44
.45
.454 casul
.50AE
faustulus
May 22, 2003, 01:50 AM
The Billenium has that frame mounted safety.
Let me try this again.
I want a Beretta with a frame mounted safety, alloy frame, brigiader slide, and interchangable sights. Oh and I want them to import it to the bloody U.S of A.
:D :fire: :D
The Silver Bullet 1719
May 22, 2003, 01:54 AM
A US-made HK 91
Skunkabilly
May 22, 2003, 02:18 AM
US Legal HK G36. If they do maybe I'll move before I find a real job.
makdaddy03
May 22, 2003, 02:25 AM
A Mouse gun with a Mouse price.:)
resmeth
May 22, 2003, 03:11 AM
A marlin lever action in 9mm, a nice cross of old and new.
SquirrelNuts
May 22, 2003, 03:14 AM
I wish Glock would make rifles. Have to work with a Kel-Tec Sub 2000 now.
-SquirrelNuts
Dionysusigma
May 22, 2003, 04:30 AM
I've seen carbine conversion kits out there for Glocks. They basically consist of field-stripping the Glock and sticking it in an assembly w/ a longer barrel and a skeleton stock
How about an over/ under semi-auto w/ pistol grips, dual 20-rd mags, chambered in .308 and 10ga?
It'll never happen, but it's good to dream :rolleyes:
Maybe a single-shot subcompact, chrome finish, and chambered in .50 BMG (call it the "Noisy Cricket") :what: :evil:
SquirrelNuts
May 22, 2003, 04:44 AM
I have seen the Glock conversion kits before, but I do not think they are legal to use.
-SquirrelNuts
How about a revolver carbine? Say, one in .223?
Or maybe a new gas-seal revolver, something a teensy bit newer than the old Nagant.
I like the idea of new break-open revolvers, and broomhandle Mausers in .40S&W.
Of course, I also don't see why us piddly civilians shouldnt be able to have a SAW in the closet, or an old MG42 with 250 round belts...but then again, I live in the Peoples Republic of California, where our esteemed representatives have come to the conclusion that ownership of a semi-auto rifle with a pistol grip and a detachable magazine (nevermind a SCARY BAYONET LUG) is a perfectly good reason to send a person to prison.
KC
Matt G
May 22, 2003, 06:08 AM
Great to see that Puma has met my want. Anyone know if they work and feed well (with both .454 and .45 Colt?)?
KC touched on one I want to see: a quality break-top revolver made with modern metalurgy, thus capable of being offered in a serious caliber (.357, .41 mag, .44's, .45's), in a medium-size. Breaktops are super-easy to reload, and are quick and handy, but traditionally have always been offered in minor calibers, due to the weaker frame design. Fine, but hasn't modern metalurgy advanced just a tad since whatever the last Mark (VII?) of Webley was made? Or since the last S&W break-top was made? :)
--MG
Brian Williams
May 22, 2003, 07:19 AM
S&W mod 58 4" heavy barrel square butt in 45 Colt
Marlin 1894 in 45 colt with a 18" round barrel
Combat-wombat
May 24, 2003, 01:26 AM
I want someone to make a Kali-legal, autoloading rifle that fires .223, accepts AR-15 mags, more accurate than the mini-14, less flimsy and weird-looking than the Kel-tec SU-16
roscoe
May 24, 2003, 03:48 AM
Select-fire handgun in .22 mag with 30 round capacity.
Break-style revolver for modern cartridges. They are just so cool.
New Savage 99 in .308
rdcinmn
May 24, 2003, 12:10 PM
Compact models of Ruger P series
carp killer
May 24, 2003, 12:15 PM
I would like to see Savage make the Model 219 again. The early one with the tang lever. In 218 Bee, Hornet, 25-20, ect.
An HK 93 in 7.62x39. They were just about to make one when SHTF in '89.:(
landon74
May 24, 2003, 06:23 PM
I'll put another vote for Ruger to make a side by side double rifle... I'd like a .45-70 or something like that...
And how about Ruger producing a Mini-14 variant that'd accept M-16 magazines...
And Ruger or some other domestic producer make a side by side 12 gauge that doesn't cost 2 grand.....
Tang safeties on Marlin lever guns would be pretty cool as well...
that's all I can think of at the moment...
Skibane
May 25, 2003, 12:34 AM
"Marine AK" in stainless steel.
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