Bushmaster Varminter Special


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Toddbo34
November 11, 2006, 01:27 AM
Just bought me a new Bushmaster Varminter Special and it should be in Tuesday. Just looking for some recommendations for a scope from any of my fellow AR fanatics. I think I am getting BRD!!

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possum
November 11, 2006, 01:52 AM
welcome to THR, congrats on the rifle, a fine one it is i might add. to answer your question. what range do you plan on shooting with it, and what is the main purpose of the rifle? I would suggest one of the super sniper scopes, if you don't mind fixed power scopes, and if so i would get a 4-12 otherwise, unless, you want more magnification, for hunting, let us know what you plan to do exactly and we can help you a little better.

Onmilo
November 11, 2006, 08:58 AM
I use a Smith and Wesson 30 millimeter tube 4X12X40, adjustable objective Mil-Dot scope on my favorite 24" AR.
If I remember correctly the base is a full length extended Yankee Hill and the rings are Millet Matte steel.
If you go with a long scope definately buy an extended platform base with multiple 'Picatinney' mounting slots.
If you don't, you may not be able to gain acceptable eye relief on the telescope.

chicane
November 11, 2006, 09:41 AM
All depends on price range. Fora varmint rifle, I would sugest something in the 6.5x20x50mm range.

Leupold makes one with an awesome varmint drop compensator recticle. The only bad part is the $900 price tag.


Believe or not, But the Baraska el-cheap-o 6.5x20x50 is a decent optic. The adjustments aren't super precise. But it holds zero really well, Even with cheap-o rings. (Can be bought for $60, comes with a 3" sunshade, rings, and some crappy flip up covers.) sportsmansguide.com


It all depends on price range. But that design of optic is really well suited to shooting small critters at 300yrds or more.

nitesite
November 11, 2006, 02:20 PM
Man, that sure would be a great rifle to own! I know where there is a NIB Varminteer made under the previous (original B.F.I.) owner for a very darn good price, but I am unable to swing it right now.

I realize you didn't ask this, but Bushmaster's FAQ web site has this piece about breaking in your stainless steel barrel:

http://www.bushmaster.com/faqnew/content_by_cat.asp?contentid=136&catid=100

It is tedious as hell, and takes freekin' forever. But since this information does not come packed with their stainless barrelled rifles I thought you should know.

Once it is accomplished your barrel should not need cleaning for many many rounds, and only when you see accuracy diminish. Of course, you can still clean the receiver and action as often as you see fit.

redneck2
November 11, 2006, 03:22 PM
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/Indianaoutdoorsman/Gunpix013.jpg

Bushmaster Varminter with Leupold 6.5x20 VX-III. At first I thought it might be overkill, but the rifle is capable of accuracy that uses all the power of the scope. Rifle will shoot slightly larger than dime sized groups @ 300 yards with handloads.

Henry455
November 11, 2006, 08:17 PM
WOW, thats 1/4 MOA at 300 yds.

Toddbo34
November 11, 2006, 09:14 PM
I have a Leupold 6.5x20-50mm on my Sendero and like it very much. I may consider getting another one of them with different reticles. I just didn't know what other options would be good. I guess mainly I will be target shooting but I would also like to hunt with it and my price range is probably around $600. 300 yards sounds like fun.

"Thanks Nitesite" A co worker has 40+ Bushmasters and made me aware of the barrel break in procedure but I hadn't been able to find it in writing until now. Thanks again.

dmftoy1
November 12, 2006, 07:44 AM
My best advice is to get something stronger than 3x9. I made the mistake on my first one of buying a 3x9 and it worked pretty well and then I saw my neighbor's 4.5x14 and so I went with the Leupold 4.5-14 VX-III. For my shooting it works great, but I can see where I'd like something with more power for longer range shots . . . .we are primarily punching paper though off of a bench and a shooting mat.


Have a god one,
Dave

redneck2
November 12, 2006, 07:46 AM
WOW, thats 1/4 MOA at 300 yds.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/Indianaoutdoorsman/Gunpix-1.jpg

If I hadn't seen this shot, I'd have a REAL hard time believing it. Maybe the gun gods just had the planets lined up right that day.

I guess it really depends on the intended use of the gun. I've seen guys get way too much power on big game hunting guns. The 6.5x20 wouldn't work so well in the deer woods. Good for PD's and excellent for target off the bench. No "perfect" scope. That's why every mfg has 100 different ones listed.

The Leo's are very good, and so are B&L's (now Weaver). Any manufacturer's higher end scope are going to be clearer and brighter than their lower end. Maybe my best scope optically is a Burris Black Diamond. The light gathering and clarity are amazing. Then again, at the time it was their highest end scope and it's a 50mm. The 8x32x44 on my 7mm Sendero is plenty adequate, but it's not what the Black Diamond is. At the time and for the intended use, I couldn't see spending the extra dollars.

P0832177
November 12, 2006, 10:49 AM
There are good scopes for the money out there
Weaver V16 the V24 gets milky above 20X
SWFA Super Sniper
Sightrom 6-24 SSII
Bushnell Elite 4200 6-24
Loopy VX111 4.5-14/6.5-20
NF
USO
S&B

I would sugges the Super Sniper for low end

Go with name brands, S&W is not a name to use! Get good rings and bases, and this does not mean BO. It means Warne Rings as good base line. Get the rings lapped and mount the scope properly!

Bullet
November 12, 2006, 02:38 PM
I put one of these on my AR Varminter –

http://www.riflescopes.com/products/LEU57040/leupold_6-18x40_vx-ii_riflescope.htm

Seems to work well.

Also like this mount –

http://www.armalite.com/sales/catalog/optics.htm

ACP
November 12, 2006, 06:24 PM
Just for clarificaiton -- the Varminter and the Varmint Sepcial are two different rifles.

The Varminter has a 24" carbon steel DCM barrel that is fluted and has an 11-degree target crown. It also has a hard rubber "ergo" grip, like a Hogue.

The Varmint Special has a 24" stainless steel bull barrel. It is not DCM quality and has no target crown. It has a "tactical" grip which has a sandpaper-like texture and an adjustable hand rest on the bottom.

Both rifles have two-stage target triggers and barrels with 1:9" twist rates.

My understanding is both rifle shoot very well; I have read more online reviews of the Varminter, rather than the Varmint Special.

mc223
November 12, 2006, 06:31 PM
I put a Bushnell 6-18 on my bushy 24 in. Works just fine.

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