Sig 229, no safety?


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StiKiller
November 11, 2006, 08:01 PM
Sorry for the very noobish question, but my friend just brought to my attention that my Sig 229 .40 doesn't have a safety, I looked for pictures online, and all the other Sig 229's have a safety. Can someone who has a Sig 229 .40 please help me out??? I know it must be hard to make "counterfiet" guns, but who knows, these days, they just might. I bought it a month or so ago at my local firearms dealer.

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cslinger
November 11, 2006, 08:03 PM
The great majority of SIGs do not have an external safety (button/switch)

They are double action pistols with an initial trigger pull that is very long and heavy, much like a revolver, this is one of the safeties so to speak.

I don't think I have ever seen a P229 WITH a safety. I have seen some SIGPROs with external safeties though.

Chris

cslinger
November 11, 2006, 08:04 PM
Could you post a picture of what you think is the safety? My guess is you are seeing the decocking lever and your firend may have a double action only gun without this lever.

I am adding a picture of a P229. There are three visible controls. The first is the take down lever, the second is the decocker and the third is the slide release/slide lock
. Going from left to right.

Chris

AK103K
November 11, 2006, 08:07 PM
I think what your confusing as the safety is the slide stop. The 229's that are DA/SA have a lever just ahead of where the typical thumb safety would be on say a 1911, and some others. This lever safely "decocks" the pistol from cocked SA to DA. The slide stop on the SIG's is where the safety normally is on other pistols.

SIG has recently come out with a P220 that does have an external thumb safety. Its set up as a "single action only" (SAO) pistol and works like a 1911.

kahrcarry
November 11, 2006, 08:07 PM
I echo the thought of cslinger. You most likely have the DAK model, that has no decocker. The standard 229 and 229R have a decocker feature that you may be confusing with a safety.

cslinger
November 11, 2006, 08:10 PM
When you shoot your gun does the hammer return to a rest position after every shot and does the trigger feel the same every time or does the hammer stay back after the first shot and the trigger get much lighter?

Chris

EDIT I am attaching a picture of the DAK/double action only model that I think you might have. You will notice no decocking lever.

Blue Line
November 11, 2006, 08:13 PM
My Sig 229 doesen't have a safety! I never get a good deal!!

Your probably looking at the decock or mag relesase.

:)

StiKiller
November 11, 2006, 08:25 PM
yes, I have the DAK model, thanks, clears things up a bit, hahahaha.

DAVE RICHARDS
November 11, 2006, 09:03 PM
Not to be a smart%$^ but the idea behind the traditional DA/SA pistol is that the first long, heavy DA shot is supposed to act as a sort of safety. In other words the longer, heavier DA pull makes sure your intent is to be pulling the trigger. The idea rather right or not is that it is safer in theory than the earlier sngle action autopistols. They usually were some form of cocked and locked carry.
In other words a round in the chamber, safety on, and a light, short, trigger pull. 1911, and Browning Hi Powers for example. Many considered this form of carry inherently unsafe. The DA/SA also allows for a gun that is instantly ready for action similar to a revolver. Pull, point, shoot. Simple. DAO guns like the Sig DAK are supposed to be similar to revolvers.
The same long trigger pull for each shot. Some consider this to be the ideal type of weapon. Again requiring a long, to varying degrees with design somewhat heavy, consistent trigger pull. An auto that shoots like a revolver but has the advantages of an auto. Some combine both a DAO trigger pull with a safety such as the Para LDA's. A light DAO trigger with a grip and thumb safety. Each has it's own pluses and minuses. It all comes down to personal taste or mandate by department. Contrary to many folks feeings though as long as the gun fits your hand and has a decent trigger you can learn to shoot any of the guns well. Some just take more work than others.

Ala Dan
November 12, 2006, 09:10 AM
The SIG Classic P-series of fine pistols incorporates three (3) passive
safety's that are not visible.:uhoh: ;)

gdvan01
November 13, 2006, 07:44 AM
Scary thing is, people still buy firearms they are not familiar with which leads to injury or worse.

RTFM comes to mind here.

cslinger
November 13, 2006, 04:47 PM
Give the dude a break. He is new and at least asked. We all have to start somewhere and some of the firearm manuals I have seen have been sort of one size fits all.

I do agree that we all need to strive to know our firearms inside and out but as long as you know and follow the safety rules I am good.

Chris

dm1333
November 13, 2006, 04:55 PM
He also had the good sense to buy a very high quality pistol. The 229 DAK is my duty weapon and it is a very good weapon.

Uribobo
November 22, 2006, 03:10 AM
The Sig 229 has no safety buttons.

Can someone who has a Sig 229 tell me if he had any problems with the gun, because i thinking about to buy one of these. They look great, i hold one in my hands and its a perfect fitt. I shoot with the Glock somethimes, but i dont like it.

AK103K
November 22, 2006, 05:22 AM
I have two and havent had any problems yet. Then again, I've never had any problem with any of my SIG's.

Check out the 226 too, I find the grip to be just a tad more comfortable for me.

Be careful here, SIG's are VERY addicting! So you might as well fondle them all, that way you can start making a place in the safe for the next one after this one. :)

skipjack
November 22, 2006, 07:48 AM
"Scary thing is, people still buy firearms they are not familiar with which leads to injury or worse"

Something, no doubt, the salesman at the firearms dealer should have explained.

Roadkill
November 22, 2006, 08:02 AM
I have a CZ75D compact, it also has no safety. It has replaced about three others I was using as a CCW. Its too handy. I like the decock/no safety feature for a CCW. For me it combines the advantages of a revolver with the slimness and bullet capacity of a semiauto.

RTFM
November 22, 2006, 08:59 AM
gdvan01
RTFM comes to mind here.


HEY ! Why you picking on me??? Because I have a P229 also? Hahahaha

Just kidding.

StiKiller
PLEASE be safe. It sounds like you and your mate need some good hands on safety training BEFORE you take the P229 out for a drive.

PLEASE - PLEASE - PLEASE know your weapons BEFORE you use them. Stay safe.

RTFM

Froggy
November 22, 2006, 09:52 AM
Can someone who has a Sig 229 tell me if he had any problems with the gun, because i thinking about to buy one of these. They look great, i hold one in my hands and its a perfect fit.

If it fit you well, it has passed the first major test. The only better test would be shooting one before you buy.

I have the P229 (older model without rails) chambered in .40 S&W. I have had no problems with it.

pablo45
November 22, 2006, 03:14 PM
I have never seen a Sig WITH a safety and why is everyone so hung up on them. You all sound like anti-gun protestor's.

daysleeprx
November 22, 2006, 05:50 PM
I have never seen a Sig WITH a safety and why is everyone so hung up on them. You all sound like anti-gun protestor's.

How does wanting a safety make someone sound like an anti-gun protestor? :rolleyes:


Like Glocks vs. 1911s, 9mm vs. 45, or almost anything else gun related, it's all about PERSONAL PREFERENCE.

10-Ring
November 22, 2006, 07:31 PM
The best safety is the one between your ears :D Your SIG is fine! ;)

allen268
November 23, 2006, 01:19 AM
I have a Sig 229, its my favorite and also the one I carry daily, the heavy 1st trigger pull makes it as safe as any revolver, it requires a good deal of intent to get the first shot off (even more so then some revolvers), the heavy first trigger pull and a quality holster offer as much safty as one should ever need. As others have said, what you probably were seeing on the Sig photos you looked at was either the decocker or slide release.

Uribobo
November 23, 2006, 01:34 AM
The best safety is the one between your ears:D Your SIG is fine! ;)

I agree with 10-Ring:)

You have to know your gun very well!:scrutiny:

Uribobo
November 23, 2006, 01:39 AM
allen268 - do you have a 9mm or .40 cal.?

I`m looking for the 9mm, because the amunition is not so expensive.

Bailey Guns
November 23, 2006, 08:34 AM
I have never seen a Sig WITH a safety and why is everyone so hung up on them. You all sound like anti-gun protestor's.

I guess you've never seen a Sig pistol then. The GSR 1911? The new Sig P220SA? P226 X-Five? Mosquito .22? P220 Match? Those are just the one's with external safeties I can remember without giving it much thought.

All Sigs have safeties...the safeties on most models are internal and are transparent to the user. Many Sig models have external safeties either on the frame or slide.

Give the guy a break, dude.

allen268
November 23, 2006, 09:40 AM
allen268 - do you have a 9mm or .40 cal.?

I have a 229ST which was a limited run and only available in .40, however with the .40 model you can convert to 357sig or 9mm by swaping out the barrels.

cslinger
November 23, 2006, 12:40 PM
I have a two tone .40 caliber that has been flawless.

Chris

klover
November 23, 2006, 06:50 PM
When chambering a round, do so only from a magazine. Do not let the hammer down without using the decocker.

DAVE RICHARDS
November 24, 2006, 12:00 AM
I have one of the 229R 9mm CPO's in like new condition. It has about become about my avorite carry gun. i've probably had 2000 trouble free rounds thrugh it since I got it. It's a tack driver also. The CPO Sigs are an excellent way to go. Most are in like new shape.

gdvan01
November 24, 2006, 02:53 AM
HEY ! Why you picking on me??? Because I have a P229 also? Hahahaha

Just kidding.Ooops...

;)

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