Do you have an attorney?
czhead
May 20, 2003, 01:17 PM
Are you covered? Do you have an attorney on tap for that day you unload a full mag on a trespasser?
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Joe Demko
May 20, 2003, 01:20 PM
I'm in the middle of a divorce. I have more attorneys than I have guns, at the moment.
RustyHammer
May 20, 2003, 01:34 PM
40+ of them ... 20 of them down the hall to my right, another 20 of them down the hall to my left .... plenty of targets.
(Not enough ammo .. ha.ha.ha .. :neener: )
blades67
May 20, 2003, 01:35 PM
I don't have one on retainer, but I know who to call if I need one.
9mmepiphany
May 20, 2003, 01:44 PM
i'm married to one, and if the problem isn't in her area of expertise she knows plenty of defense attorneys
Smoke
May 20, 2003, 01:50 PM
I guess I'm in the same boat with Blades
I have had an a matched pair of attorneys that I have used exclusively for years. Friends of the family. He or his brother have done all legal work I have ever needed.
Which one you call depends on your needs or the view of the firm as to which is better suited. One of the brothers is laid back and calm, the other is aggressive and hyper. Both are pretty smart guys.
Thats who I'm calling.
El Tejon
May 20, 2003, 02:08 PM
Rusty, LOL!:D Punchline without the setup: "a good start".:p
cz, if you unload on a mere "trespasser" you may very well need one--it depends, of course.
Whether I have one right now is not important. What is important is that I know who to call.
keyhole
May 20, 2003, 02:16 PM
El-
I agree 100% with that. Biggest factor is knowing who to call, and making sure that any family members know that also. Another thing, never make a statement to leo's, even if you are sure you did the right thing. A long time after the criminal stuff has been cleared, you still could be liable on the civil side. Always talk with the lawyer first.
Bummer.
El Tejon
May 20, 2003, 02:20 PM
key, yes, should have mentioned it. Important that "trusted other" knows what to do when Problem #2 begins.
Bachelor here. I forgot as that will not be part of the drill for me.
MPFreeman
May 20, 2003, 02:27 PM
Do I have an attorney? Mounted on the wall? Maybe an attorney to use as a human shield?
I don't get the question?
12 Volt Man
May 20, 2003, 02:33 PM
I have a great guy named Mitch Vilos ( http://www.firearmslaw.com/ He is a great guy, he competes locally in defensive pistol competitions, and he taught my CCW class. He has written a couple of books on Utah Gun Laws. He is the attorney representing suit against AOL where CCW permit holders were involved.
I know many of the High Road members are in Utah, you need to keep this guys name and number in your wallet :)
braindead0
May 20, 2003, 02:38 PM
Hmm, an Attorney and a tree chipper? That paints a pretty picture..
falconer
May 20, 2003, 02:41 PM
Yes, I have an attorney, and he owns more guns than me :cool:
Ol' Badger
May 20, 2003, 02:58 PM
Every since that embarsing incident at the play ground, Yes. Also have this ankle braclet that beeps too... :D
Billy Sparks
May 20, 2003, 04:40 PM
I was thinking about that the other day (actually several ago) and talked to a buddy who works in the DA's office here. Now my friend has his CCW and several guns. His advice was that it might make you look too much like a RAMBO type if you go to an attorney and start asking them "Would you mind representing me if I shoot someone?" His advice was to keep in your wallet a couple of attorney's names and numbers, make sure your family/SO knows there name number, etc.
Correia
May 20, 2003, 04:56 PM
12 Volt, I've got Mitch's card at home. :)
Recon By Fire
May 20, 2003, 04:58 PM
Really, if they are on your properity and you feel threatned, kill the mo fo's. Really, people have gotten off with a lot worse things than killing trespassers (OJ Simpsion).
Soap
May 20, 2003, 06:40 PM
I don't "have" an attorney, but if I got into criminal trouble I would probably call one guy that has already responded on this thread.
WhoKnowsWho
May 20, 2003, 06:54 PM
MPFreeman:
In the CCW course, it was recommended to "have an attorney" ie. someone you knew or someone you were already paying to be your representative in case you have to stop someone with deadly force.
I don't, but a phonebook is nearby.
yucapote
May 20, 2003, 07:02 PM
Are you covered? Do you have an attorney on tap for that day you unload a full mag on a trespasser?
I do, I sold him the factory mags that came with my SA Loaded:cool:
Soap
May 20, 2003, 07:15 PM
Oh yeah, I would keep the attorney's card in your wallet and their number on your cellphone.
TheLastBoyScout
May 20, 2003, 07:26 PM
Yep, my momma.
Of course she also is obsessed with making sure I would not have access to a weapon off of a range, so I don't think its possible for me to unload a magazine on anyone.
bbrins
May 20, 2003, 07:43 PM
I don't, but now that you all got me thinking about it, does anyone know of a gun friendly lawyer in the Southern Maryland area?
Jeff OTMG
May 20, 2003, 09:23 PM
Yes, multiples since I move around a bunch, got to have one no matter where I am. More than one in Texas and Oklahoma since that is where I spend the bulk of my time.
OEF_VET
May 20, 2003, 09:59 PM
My future father-in-law is a police officer, a firearms instructor in S. Illinois, and an attorney (personal injury, but he knows some good defense attorneys). Oh yeah, and he owns many more guns than I do.
Frank
matis
May 21, 2003, 01:23 AM
... to find a gun-friendly attorney who's experienced in this kind of case?
I think about this from time to time, but have been remiss in taking care of it.
Matis
S_O_Laban
May 21, 2003, 01:47 AM
Bingo! Matis, that's the $10,000 question. Anyone? Anyone?
I have a couple I've known and used over the years for various matters. They or their firm can handle a firearm situation, they have before.
JohnBT
May 21, 2003, 07:57 AM
I have a buddy who does mostly bankruptcy and real estate stuff(and my divorce for $100 and he went to court and beat a speeding ticket for me - for free. That was 1986 - I think I still owe him the free lunch I promised.)
He's self employed and knows where to refer the cases he doesn't want.
John
Hemicuda
May 21, 2003, 12:21 PM
Are BOTH attorneys in good standing W/ the bar association... and BOTH are pro-RKBA, and both have lotsa trial experience...
I'd say I'm well covered...
Edited to add - If they want ANY more help w/ home repairs, project desigh, or free mechanical work on their cars, thay had BETTER consider themselves on retainer!
Jeff OTMG
May 21, 2003, 11:01 PM
matis, there are a number of ways.
You can check with the state affiliate of the NRA.
You can look to the state legislature for pro-gun representatives, many of them are attorneys.
I met two of mine in Texas because they were organizing or speaking at gun rights rallies and conferences.
You can contact the organization that represents your local PD, like the FOP, and ask them who they use for officer involved shootings.
matis
May 22, 2003, 01:37 AM
I don't know why I didn't think of ideas like yours, myself, but I sure didn't.
Excellent ideas.
Now I have no more excuse, right? :D
This is a GREAT! board.
Matis
2dogs
May 22, 2003, 09:00 AM
So what's a good way...to find a gun-friendly attorney who's experienced in this kind of case?
If you are a member of GOA (or maybe even if you aren't) they will recommend an attorney in your area if you call and ask. At least they did for me, he turned out to be quite helpful (luckily, I did not need to retain him, I just asked alot of questions).
Don't know if NRA will do that, I never tried them.
RustyHammer
May 22, 2003, 02:54 PM
... got one in thecross hairs now. Just have to figure out where to mount her. :neener:
JackStraw
May 22, 2003, 03:18 PM
Before your sold on one attny or another, you might want to inquire whether they have defended a wrongful death action or murder case in the past.
Then find out how they did for the client. Ask them how many settled or cut a deal. Probably you'll have to look up the cases yourself. No attny going to tell a prospective paycheck that "well I've handled allot of these cases but never got an acquittal, they mostly cut deals."
There are lots of guys out there chomping at the bit to take these cases who are not qualified or experienced. Usually in a civil action you want to look for a guy who has done allot off medical malpractice DEFENSE work. In a criminal action you want a criminal defense attny who has done allot of death penalty or murder defense work. Most criminal def attnys usually only have misdemeanor type experience. A defense team of one guy and his paralegal isn't going to cut it when the state or a large firm comes after you. There is no fairness and justice under the law, I promise you. It's which side can spend the other into the ground first that wins.
And remember, some attnys shoot back and a select few are quicker, more accurate, any crazier than you...
Jack19
May 22, 2003, 06:38 PM
Having an attorney is fine, all of us who CCW should, but do you also have a bail bondsman?
matis
May 22, 2003, 09:49 PM
Great thread/question, czhead.
More great advice, 2dogs & Jack Straw.
Is this a great board, or what?
matis
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