I'm so good at shooting!! My groups are amazing.


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Tomekeuro85
November 12, 2006, 09:20 PM
I used to use my PMC once fired brass, but recently i ordered a high quality LE wilson case trimmer, flash hole deburring tool, and 100 rounds of new remington brass. I loaded em all up....

My old average with my garbage lyman case trimmer and no flash hole work was .75", that is, take all the group sizes, add em up, and divide by the number of groups.

My NEW average is .49", which is amazing in a completely stock rifle. I have had like 4 groups under .3", and the rest in the .5" range. Biggest and (only one over .59") being .91" but I dont know what happened there. Many many .5ish size groups.

I am exteremely satisfied. I sorted the brass by weight as well. Now all I need is some match primers and I'll be good to go.

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loadedround
November 13, 2006, 09:07 AM
That's really great shooting and I compliement you on it. Now try to move your targets out to 50 YARDS and see how well you do! :rolleyes:

fineredmist
November 13, 2006, 09:43 AM
May I ask the gun, caliber and load?

db_tanker
November 13, 2006, 10:53 AM
That's really great shooting and I compliement you on it. Now try to move your targets out to 50 YARDS and see how well you do!


lmao....dude...thats harsh. :evil:



Good question, though...what caliber/rifle combo with powder/bullet usage?

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JDGray
November 13, 2006, 12:48 PM
Wheres the "guy patting himself on the back" icon?:D Glad ya found room to improve, thats what makes reloading so fun!

Tomekeuro85
November 13, 2006, 06:15 PM
haha I was just kidding about the "im so good at shooting" My friends and I alwasy joke around with that statement when we play pool. We usually follow it with sometihng like... I'm the best pool player in this school, and Im modest, too. haha.

Anyways, this was all done at 100 yards with my Remington 700vls in .223.

Brass was Remington with a 52gr SMK. Powder was H335. I'll give you my .223 spreadsheet that I have recently been keeping so you can see all the stuff I've done to improve accuracy. A lot of the info is on the sheet. if not, just ask.

Car Knocker
November 13, 2006, 06:55 PM
How many shots in a group?

Tomekeuro85
November 13, 2006, 07:29 PM
Always 5 shots per group, never less and never more.

.45man
November 13, 2006, 07:56 PM
Nice shooting.

Now take it out to 250+ yards. You will really see how well the gun, ammo, and shooter's skills are combined to maintain shot placement.

All the best!!!

Davo
November 13, 2006, 10:01 PM
Good work, how does your savage shoot?

Critter183
November 13, 2006, 11:31 PM
The case trimmer made a difference in group sizes? :confused:

Nice shooting! :)

Tomekeuro85
November 13, 2006, 11:41 PM
I dont know if it was the case trimmer, but the garbage Lyman case trimmer left the case mouths extremely unsquare, leading to what I hypothesize is an uneven release of the bullet. I may or may not be right, but my groups speak for themselves. Whatever I did, it worked.

My savage shoots good sometimes, but alwasy under 1". I havent really been keeping track of it as much because i have lots of different brands of brass. I can only afford (both money and time wise) to shoot my .223 right now. When i'm satisfied with my groups for .223, i'll buy remington brass for .308 and work on that one until i get consistent .5" groups.

Critter183
November 14, 2006, 12:09 AM
I guess if it left the case unsquare, a new trimmer could make a lot of difference. I just couldn't figure how it could be. :)

I have an old lyman trimmer, but it works pretty good.

YodaVader
November 14, 2006, 12:08 PM
i ordered a high quality LE wilson case trimmer, flash hole deburring tool, and 100 rounds of new remington brass. I loaded em all up....


I use the same trimmer myself and also perform the case prep work like flash hole deburring and primer pocket uniforming. Also the use of match bullets for accuracy work. The 52 , 53 and 69 MatchKings and the 52 , 55 Bergers are some of what I have on hand now.

I finally got around to using an old batch of once fired Remington brass and the reults with my 700 LTR .223 have been outstanding. The first time using this brass was with my old VLS and that rifle held my personal record for best group ever. Until last weekend , I was finally able to surpass the VLS record with the LTR , using the same batch of Remington brass! The same Jewell trigger that I now have in my LTR was once in the VLS as well!

Tomekeuro85
November 15, 2006, 10:43 PM
I'm going shooting again thsi weekend, so we'll see if i can repeat these group sizes. I'll let you know sunday

redneck2
November 16, 2006, 06:00 AM
Good work, how does your savage shoot?
I'd guess you typically load one in the chamber and pull the trigger..

:neener:

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