Which powder trickler do you prefer?


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280PLUS
November 12, 2006, 09:47 PM
I see there's a bunch of them so I'm just wondering which would be the best choice. I'll be using Bullseye powder to load .45 for target. Is it fine enough to trickle in the last couple tenths? My goal is consistency and accuracy naturally.

Thanks!

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1911user
November 13, 2006, 12:52 AM
Hand trickling every powder charge for pistol ammo will get old quick. I suggest looking into an adjustable powder measure and learn to operate it consistently.

I do have a basic powder trickler that'd probably sell new for about $10, but I only use it for measuring very small batches of ammo when working up a load. A basic one from any of the big name reloading companies will work fine.

280PLUS
November 13, 2006, 06:37 AM
Yea, understood on the getting old. I don't plan to do too many of them like that, just about 100 or so per month for the once a month tournament I shoot.

USSR
November 13, 2006, 08:31 AM
280PLUS,

After having bought a trickler, I find it much easier to use index finger and thumb, and the trickler collects dust.

Don

loadedround
November 13, 2006, 08:33 AM
The wife's measuring spoons work just as well.

280PLUS
November 13, 2006, 10:50 AM
Thanks.

wife, "Why are you headed for the basement with that meauring spoon?"

me, "You don't want to know."

wife, "Okie dokie!"

:D

The Bushmaster
November 13, 2006, 12:31 PM
USSR Canned air solves that problem...The dust I mean.

280PLUS...Understand the wife thing. My wife has stopped asking those questions. She just shakes her head now and goes about her business.
I use a Midway battery operated trickler ($20 +/-) for years. Works quite well and easy on two AA batteries.

Deanimator
November 13, 2006, 12:56 PM
Yea, understood on the getting old. I don't plan to do too many of them like that, just about 100 or so per month for the once a month tournament I shoot.
I think you're wasting time which could be better used in shooting, dry firing, loading more ammo, etc.

In the Bullseye-L mailing list, I talk to some of the best shooters in the world. I don't think I know a single one who trickles charges for pistol ammo. Most use progressive presses.

I trickle all of my rifle loads, but then I never shoot closer than 600 yards.

280PLUS
November 13, 2006, 03:59 PM
Guess I don't trust the new to me old 450 JR to load them exactly the same every time. Once I get it set up and run a few rounds through it I'll know more about whether I think I should or not. If I can get good consistency without the trickle part I'd agree it's not necessary. FYI, I took 84th in the Expert category for the 2006 indoor pistol nationals. So naturally I'm looking for every edge I can get. :D

Cledus J. Crabb
November 13, 2006, 04:03 PM
A 30-30 case is what I use to trickle powder.
It holds plenty of powder, meters nicely and the rimmed base lets it sit securely on the loading bench. Seems to be easier and quicker than the regular factory tricklers.
CJC

m0ntels
November 13, 2006, 04:46 PM
I got a Lyman electric one free with my Uniflow. It works when I need it. Trickling isnt too complex an operation so any should work for you. :)

Randy

jubo
November 13, 2006, 04:53 PM
Lyman 1200dps... why go half a$$ed? ha ha.

WayneConrad
November 13, 2006, 07:59 PM
The Redding #5 Powder Tricker (http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=487186) has worked well for me. It's heavy, which makes it hard to knock over and easy to work with one hand. It's smooth and well made.

jubo
November 13, 2006, 09:00 PM
Yes, if you're doing it by 'hand' then you want the heaviest trickler out there, I know lyman, hornady, and I believe lee and rcbs are all plastic. Redding makes nice stuff.
The reason you want it heavy is so that if you 'bump' it, even slighly when approaching the thing, it will drop powder in an uncontrolled manner, completely the opposite of what a trickler should do.
That said I have a Lyman, its adjustable for height so I can use it with taller scales. I rarely use it though, as my electronic 1200dps does it all automatically. Slowly, but +-.1grn.

Hazzard
November 13, 2006, 10:33 PM
I have an old Hornady which works well for me (it's ceramic, not plastic). I really don't think you'll find much advantage in trickling powder charges on pistol loads over a quality powder measure for 45ACP, however. And I've done it both ways.

Critter183
November 13, 2006, 11:03 PM
I have a cast aluminum RCBS that works just dandy. In fact, I just got done with it for the night.

Critter183
November 13, 2006, 11:08 PM
I'm anal about handloading. Every case gets examined. Every primer pocket gets cleaned. Once fired brass gets flash holes deburred. Cases get sized and trimmed and case length checked. Every powder charge gets weighed. After seating bullets every OAL gets checked.

I figure if I'm going to do it, do it right. Besides, it's fun. :D

P95Carry
November 13, 2006, 11:19 PM
Easy trickler - cheap too ;)

One empty .44mag case, and one empty .45acp case.

Bell the .45acp a bit and apply a smidgeon of taper crimp to .44 case - it should then go into the .45 case a bit and hold thru friction.

Knock out whichever primer you wish and then fill with some of powder in use.

Hold with deprimed end down and tap like a pepper shaker gently - powder will come out in very small qty's.

I don't bother with trickle much but when I do - this does the job nicely. :)

Howdy Doody
November 14, 2006, 03:01 AM
I can pile on about the RCBS. It works just fine. I think it was around $12 when I got it and I use it for my 38-55 and 45-70 loads with a Lyman balance beam scale.

280PLUS
November 15, 2006, 09:15 AM
I like all of these ideas. Given the idea that I probably don't want to spend all that time trickling charges for .45 here's one that I think will suffice that I just saw in the "ABCs" book. They show using various cases as powder measures and brazing little handles on them. I imagine if I trim a case to the exact length of what it takes for the desired amount of powder when level full I'll be close enough on the powder charge consistency. All I'll have to do is dip and level the powder off. But I DO plan to start loading rifle in the fairly near future so all this info will be put to use when I do.

Thanks!

Critter183
November 15, 2006, 10:58 AM
I do own a Lee powder measure set:

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/40380-20380-1848.html

For $7 or whatever, it is well worth it. It came with a slide calculator for determining which measure will give you the closest charge weight for the powder you're using.

I toss the charge onto the scale and trickle from there. If you don't need precision, just toss the charge into your funnel.

1911user
November 15, 2006, 11:21 AM
If you are not going to trickle the last few tenths of a grain on the powder weight, an adjustable powder measure will be much more consistent than a powder scoop.

hooks
November 15, 2006, 11:36 AM
Lyman 1200dps II. I love it.:)

stellarpod
November 18, 2006, 09:37 AM
I agree whole-heartedly with WayneConrad. The Redding #5 is a great trickler, as it is heavy and very stable. You won't have to worry about inadvertently knocking this one over. If you have an opportunity to pick up several different models in a side-by-side comparison you'll see what we mean. They probably all will do the job (along with all of the home remedies listed here), but the Redding #5 just feels better.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/365844/ReddingTrickler.JPG

stellarod

ojibweindian
November 18, 2006, 09:43 AM
Believe it or not, a Lee powder dipper :D

lev83
November 18, 2006, 09:59 AM
RCBS. I even have one new in the box for sale if you are interested.

RobZ71LM7
November 19, 2006, 04:40 PM
I just picked up a Redding #5.

distra
November 19, 2006, 06:54 PM
Trickler? We don't need no stinking trickler! :D Just set it up and go. My 550 powder measure is right on and very consistant. I put a micrometer on for ease of adjustment.

280PLUS
November 19, 2006, 08:00 PM
Hey man... shoot Saturday?

Anyhoo, yea, I guess if I find that the 450 is accurate in the powder charge I'll probably relax about it. But still, the ABC's book gets right into saying how if you want a good consistent auto handgun target load you must separate your brass by mfg and weight, weigh your heads, trickle in the last few tenths of powder, the whole spiel. I do believe I will be turning out my very first few rounds before the end of the week though. I've got until 12/3 to come up with at least 100 decent, tested rounds for the next match. The next step is to figure out where all the parts I got from Dillon go and set it up, then it's off to the races... :D

distra
November 19, 2006, 09:36 PM
Didn't make the shoot, home for the holiday's. ;) If you want those super accurate rounds for the match, then do just as you suggest. The Dillon powder measure will be very reproducible from round to round. Do have an accurate scale? Balance or digital will work fine with the latter being a little faster to get started. Most scales have a +/- 0.02grs so you won't get any better than that ;) You can always try several (20) of each load made up not quite so accurate, then dial them in after you are in the ball park. Couple things, the lightest load in the manual may not cycle your slide, but you should make up a few rounds anyway just to make sure. You may want to just get new brass or ounce fired for the match. My most expensive bullets, Hornady, varied in weight by +/- 0.5 grs so you may want to seperate your projectiles based on weight as well as size. In this batch size tended to vary less. One last note, on a progressive, bullet seating can vary if not all the stations are full so just keep that in mind for those super accurate rounds. Bottom line is, knowing how well you shoot, you could probably run away with the match using Ultramax factory reloads of varying brass. :D Good luck and if you need any assistance, I'd be happy to help.

280PLUS
November 20, 2006, 05:34 AM
Thanks, I'll know more in a few days. yea, I got a balance beam right from dillon with the rest of the stuff. I'd prefer the digital but didn't want to spend the extra scratch. It's on my wish list. I'm going to start witgh 3.8 gr of bullseye and work up ~ 20 rounds each of 3.8 through maybe 4.2 and go from there. Then I'll pick the one I like best.

PinnedAndRecessed
November 20, 2006, 10:25 AM
P95 recommends:

One empty .44mag case, and one empty .45acp case.

Bell the .45acp a bit and apply a smidgeon of taper crimp to .44 case - it should then go into the .45 case a bit and hold thru friction.

Knock out whichever primer you wish and then fill with some of powder in use.

Hold with deprimed end down and tap like a pepper shaker gently - powder will come out in very small qty's.


I had to read this a couple of times but, you mean to insert the 44 case mouth into the 45 case mouth? Do you need to ream out the primer hole for larger powders?

TooTaxed
November 20, 2006, 11:40 AM
A rifle case...just hold it level, twist it a little and a few grains will fall out.

Guess I'm both cheap and don't need a bunch of extra stuff cluttering up the loading bench...:p

280PLUS
November 21, 2006, 05:25 PM
Well, I've done my first 25. 200 gr LSWC, CCI primers and 3.8 - 4.2 gr of Bullseye 5 rounds each in .1 gr incrments. "Trickler" of choice, the 1/8 tsp measuring spoon. Worked quite well, get the needle to start rising and then tap tap to bring it to the line. Now to shoot the little buggers. :D

scottw
November 21, 2006, 05:38 PM
I use a RCBS and put #12 shot in the bottom with epoxy to hold it in place the put a cork bottom on it. Turned out real nice. I use a powder dipper and put it on the scale pan then use the trickler to top it off. You can get really fast with this method once you work out your own system. At least I know that each load is perfect. On really large amounts of cases I use a Redding #3.

280PLUS
November 21, 2006, 05:43 PM
At least I know that each load is perfect. Right, same here, that way when I blow a shot I know it's me and not the loads or the gun. Up to now I've been using another guy's leftovers and now that I'm looking closer I'm finding that MOST of the spent shells that I have so far have been same MFG per box. I found that to be interesting. He is a "Distinguished" pistol shooter so I imagine he took pretty good care when making his too. It'll be nice to know exactly what I'm shooting now. I had no idea of what the load was box to box. I like the shot and cork idea.

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