Why do we need to find out who Mikey Magnum is?


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MicroBalrog
May 20, 2003, 03:41 PM
That's why (http://www.gunguys.com/sotm.htm)
Anyone ready to join the investigation?:fire:

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blades67
May 20, 2003, 04:16 PM
It doesn't matter who he is, he gets his misinformation from the brady bunch. If you want to spend your time doing something, start at the source, not the mouthpiece.:rolleyes:

MicroBalrog
May 20, 2003, 04:20 PM
Sure it does. He needs to be exposed, and all his dirty underwear needs to be dug up, incliding the name of the girl that set him up at the highschool prom. Then even the anti-gun fascists be disgusted by him.

blades67
May 20, 2003, 04:31 PM
You clearly don't understand you opponent. His lies are coming from the brady bunch and the cdc. The anti-gun crowd knows that their information is bogus, that's the reason they have to include 18-24 year-olds as "children" to get their "10 kids a day" lie.:rolleyes:

MicroBalrog
May 20, 2003, 04:33 PM
O.K. But this guy actually believes in this! He doesn't work for them! He's a godd&&& employee of some extreme left rag!

Betty
May 20, 2003, 04:39 PM
Take a chill pill! He's not worth letting under your skin. And it's definitely not worth stooping to a dirty underwear level. We are on the HIgh Road, right?

MicroBalrog
May 20, 2003, 04:43 PM
Runt: We're talking about Credibility Warfare here. Not won without dirty underware throwing. Sorry. Tough luck.

cslinger
May 20, 2003, 04:43 PM
Amen to that.

Take that energy and take somebody shooting or write a congressman or an editorial.

I get caught up in misdirected "energy" all the time. If we just direct it in the right place we can make a difference.

Let's get rid of the AWB. Think about how much this idiot will like that. Living well being the best revenge and all that.

Chris

MicroBalrog
May 20, 2003, 04:47 PM
I can't take anyone shooting - I'm in Israel. Same goes about congressmen. I've written a 2 editorials for Shamaya, a bunch letters to editors, and 2 articles for the Self-Defense Network (http://www.rkba.co.uk/sdn/) .

I also preached RKBA at a MUN meeting.
I also preach RKBA (part-time) on the Democratic Underground.

And I hate hearing "best revenge is living well". I really do.:fire: :fire: :fire:

Betty
May 20, 2003, 04:51 PM
Okay, MicroBalrog, I'll give you an example of dirty underwear...

Somebody takes you to court over...whatever. It's his time to speak, so he goes on this tong tirade over how you stole the neighbor's car when you were thirteen, threw rocks at your ex-girlfriend's window , slept with your brother's wife, and...

"Wait! That has nothing to do with this court case!" you shout.

"But I'm talking about MicroBalrog's credibilty here! Tough luck!"

Shall I go on?

It's just my opinion, but if you want to convert fence-sitters and anti's over to our side, you've got to be the better person. And if you start hanging out dirty underwear, prepare to have yours clothespinned on the line as well.

cslinger
May 20, 2003, 04:51 PM
Sorry didn't mean to upset you.

Wow, just realized you were in Israel. Stay safe.

Chris

MicroBalrog
May 20, 2003, 04:56 PM
"Wait! That has nothing to do with this court case!" you shout.

"But I'm talking about MicroBalrog's credibilty here! Tough luck!"

Shall I go on?

It's just my opinion, but if you want to convert fence-sitters and anti's over to our side, you've got to be the better person. And if you start hanging out dirty underwear, prepare to have yours clothespinned on the line as well.

I'm set and ready to roll. Bring it on, Mikey!
:D

Seriously though, if whatever they say had to do with my credibility, than it would be OK for them legally to bring up my past crimes. Tough luck.

And yeah, you have to constantly DEMONSTRATE you're the better person.

Betty
May 20, 2003, 05:08 PM
Seriously though, if whatever they say had to do with my credibility, than it would be OK for them legally to bring up my past crimes. Tough luck.

Wow. I can understand how a murder investigation may be helped by uncovering the violent past actions of someone on trial, but I had no idea that (in this case) author credibility relied on one's criminal record. Is that how you see things? That somehow Mikey Magnum's past history of (making this up here) bouncing checks at KMart can discredit his writing? How about using cold, hard gun facts against his innaccurate gun facts (which is nothing more than comedy to me)?

And yeah, you have to constantly DEMONSTRATE you're the better person.

Fantastic! So you won't be wasting your time digging around to see if ol' Mikey Magnum had a one-night stand while he was married and took Viagra when his doctor told him not to because of his heart condition?

MicroBalrog
May 20, 2003, 05:13 PM
Thank you for distorting my post:

If I can, say, prove, that Mike Magnum is a guy named N. Idiot, a member of a Communist/Trozkyist group, mentally disturbed.
and paid for by VPC money - what will that do?

Actually, I do have a statement, made by a Brady representative, claiming that most Brady activist are people who were psychologically traumatised by gun violence.

And, if I were a witness that tends to consume drugs and has a history of mental disturbance and receives huge sums of money from defendant, that would be relevant to my credibility.

CZ-75
May 20, 2003, 05:17 PM
Personally, all I want to do to Mikey is let some sunlight shine on him so he can't hide behind a facade anymore.

He's a coward and his true identity should be revealed. That's enough for me. If he has the balls to go on writing this junk then, let him.

MicroBalrog
May 20, 2003, 05:19 PM
Exactly.

gun-fucious
May 20, 2003, 05:21 PM
WHO IS Mike Magnum?:

whois gunguys.com?
Organization:
Gun Guys.com
Mike Magnum
P.O. Box 618354
Chicago, Il 60661
US
Phone: 312-474-0461
Email: gunguys@gunguys.com

MicroBalrog
May 20, 2003, 05:24 PM
It's been done recently (by me). LRS is the company which gives them hosting. McClleland office denied being affiliated with them.

gun-fucious
May 20, 2003, 05:31 PM
same PO box:
http://www.itsariot.com/who/join.html

Organization:
Gonzo Schexnayder
Gonzo Schexnayder
624 W. Surf, #3A
Chicago, IL 60657
US
Phone: 312-545-8315
Email: register@itsariot.com

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: ITSARIOT.COM

Created on..............: Fri, Aug 23, 2002
Expires on..............: Sat, Aug 23, 2003
Record last updated on..: Mon, Nov 11, 2002

Administrative Contact:
Gonzo Schexnayder
Gonzo Schexnayder
624 W. Surf, #3A
Chicago, IL 60657
US
Phone: 312-545-8315
Email: register@itsariot.com

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Register.Com
Domain Registrar
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pytron
May 20, 2003, 05:32 PM
This site (gunguys.com) is just the on-line version of a liberal talk show. A bunch of misinformation and garbage. One-sided opinion pieces meant to sway the sheep. Nothing new.

Anyone going to this site will understand the bias immediately. If they agree, they will chuckle at the "gun nuts". If they disagree, they may fume or laugh at the idiocy.

Not much more to do than that. Even if you write a concise e-mail that blows away his/her point of view, what are the chances he/she will print it?

-Pytron

gun-fucious
May 20, 2003, 05:32 PM
http://www.splattereffect.com/photos/gonzo-1.jpg
Gonzo Schexnayder, Executive Producer & Head Writer

Gonzo has been performing comedy professionally since the age of 6, when his first joke was a response to a question his sister posed to their mom while driving through south Louisiana's lovely scenic vistas. "Mom," she said, "what's a womb?" Gonzo quickly interjected (timing is everything), "That's what a motorcycle runs on. Woooom, wooooom." It was also his first road show.

Besides comedy, he has performed in comedic plays, improvisational comedy and sketch-comedy shows, as a stand-up comedian, and in voiceovers, commercials, films and television, most of which he got paid for, some of which were comedy. He has also written comedy, in nearly all those formats and a few others (especially if you laugh at his poetry).

His theatre credits include I Hate Hamlet (comedy), Lovers and Other Strangers (comedy), The Death of Bessie Smith (not a comedy) and his critically acclaimed Humpty Dumpty in Alice in Wonderland (kid's comedy). He was a founding member of the improvisational comedy group, Troupe Therapy, and the improv/sketch-comedy company, Broad Shoulders. He has studied at The Second City in Chicago and The Groundlings in L.A. He juggles, plays guitar (carelessly), and can do something weird with his stomach. He shares his life with his beautiful singing wife, Callie, and their imaginary friends.


Gonzo created Splatter Effect to fulfill his desire to write and perform satire and comedy that provokes people into using their noggins.


http://www.splattereffect.com/bios.html

gun-fucious
May 20, 2003, 05:42 PM
ding!:
http://www.splattereffect.com/archives/wits060500.html

WITS AND HALF-WITS

Wit by Gonzo

Kill them all. It's the children's fault anyway. Shoot them in the head one by one and we'll end children's violence. If the children are all dead -- logic would say -- you won't have violence committed by children.

Why have we overlooked this simple fact? It's the damn kids that screw it all up. They're the ones that don't understand how powerful a gun can be. They're the ones sneaking guns from closets and shoe drawers, running around messing everything up. They're the ones who can't shoot straight.

I was in the military. I know. I spent eight weeks carrying, loading, assembling, disassembling, aiming, adjusting, cleaning and shooting one M-16 rifle. I was qualified to kill.

I knew what a single 5.56 millimeter round from a well-aimed U.S. Military-issued M-16 (civilian issue AR-15) can do. It can take your face off. Well, an adult, with a fully-formed head, might only lose half their face. But, if you aim right at a child's little head, on either side, right behind the cheek, where the jaw bone meets the rest of the skull, you could probably take out more than half a face and even part of the spine. What amazing efficiency!

If kids had any idea about the killing power of a well-placed bullet from an M-16, they'd either leave guns alone completely or pick them up like a whore picks up syphilis.

Why did Dylan and Eric waste their time with so many small weapons? Why did they waste their time with little toy bombs and writing and Web pages? Why did they leave so many wounded? With all that fire power, why did they ONLY kill 10 people (not including themselves, because any fool can kill themselves)?

Because they were kids. They were dumbass kids who didn't know their ??? from a hole in a barrel. Because they were motivated by feelings and not by skill. And because of that, they bought dumb weapons (a TEC9, puh-lease) and built bad bombs (propane bombs, puh-lease -- were we going to barbecue afterwards?).

That's why we have to kill all the children -- because they have the potential to kill badly. Because they gun down English teachers with handguns while being videotaped. Because they kill, but don't plan an escape. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

We could take the time and tax dollars to train them effectively. We could take their youth away from them and enroll them in military school starting with first grade. We could teach them how to hold a rifle, how to aim it correctly, and how to kill with extreme prejudice.

But that would take effort and time and a sense of concern that seems to have slipped from my mind (and yours, too, I bet). I've given up on getting rid of the guns -- too many obstacles.

So, my money's on killing the kids.

MicroBalrog
May 20, 2003, 05:47 PM
Yup, that seems to be the guy. Now, how do we prove that?

Pendragon
May 20, 2003, 05:58 PM
What do you want to "prove" and to whom and why?

The guy is just a frustrated dramatic type with a "mission".

I am sure he would welcome any attempt to shed light on his little crusade.

If you want to get him, why not parody his parody?

MicroBalrog
May 20, 2003, 05:59 PM
Hey, I have an idea brewing...
But I want to know for sure who he is before I'm implementing it.

Matt1911
May 20, 2003, 06:19 PM
Oh come now,it's quite apparent this clown does not care about guns one way or the other,but fiqures this might generate some pity from the antis and he can mc a benifit or two,maybe if he gets the pro gun people to debate,that could jump start his failed career.:rolleyes:

Betty
May 20, 2003, 07:04 PM
He needs to be exposed, and all his dirty underwear needs to be dug up, incliding the name of the girl that set him up at the highschool prom.

Dirty underwear: tends to be things that have absolutely nothing to do with the issue at hand and circulate around shock value and National Enquirer level reading, and are also known as low blows, like "Mike Magnum went to the prom with Suzie Q., who sells herself at the streetcorner." That's dirty laundry, right? How is that supposed to help your cause? Maybe it hurts it because you have to resort to such tactics?

Thank you for distorting my post: If I can, say, prove, that Mike Magnum is a guy named N. Idiot, a member of a Communist/Trozkyist group, mentally disturbed. and paid for by VPC money - what will that do?

You said dirty underwear and provided an example, and I took it literally, because there really isn't any other way to take it. Proving Mike Magnum is a guy named N. Idiot and is a member of Communist/Troskyist group is using relevant facts that deal with this particular issue, because N. Idiot is his real name and he could be using his words to further his political causes, right? Now you're on the High Road!

Mike Magnum is nothing more than a silly satirist who swims with glee in the pool of attention he gets.

MicroBalrog
May 20, 2003, 07:07 PM
Mike Magnum went to the prom with Suzie Q., who sells herself at the streetcorner."

Poor Suzie :(

What if it turns out that Mike Magnum sells him/her/itself at a street corner?

Betty
May 20, 2003, 07:11 PM
Is it possible to spread cooties over the 'net?

MicroBalrog
May 20, 2003, 07:12 PM
What are cooties?

Betty
May 20, 2003, 07:21 PM
"Cooties" is a kiddie term for ickynastybuggycritter things.

So, if Mike Magnum sells himself at the street corner, there's no telling what kind of cooties he's got.

MicroBalrog
May 20, 2003, 07:22 PM
He? Or she? Or even it?

Betty
May 20, 2003, 07:26 PM
Maybe it's a vast conspiracy of them.

:p

MicroBalrog
May 20, 2003, 07:27 PM
Poor them. Imagine you're in a room with something like Mike Magnum...
Et tu, Tango?:what:

MicroBalrog
May 20, 2003, 08:19 PM
"Well, the gun lobby and the Right Wing are already celebrating a victory they have yet to win. In late April, the US House of Representatives approved a law that would grant immunity to the gun industry from legal action by victims of gun violence. At the same time, Attorney General John Ashcroft has been working hard to protect the criminals who are illegally buying guns. But nevermind that, and nevermind the gun industry whistleblower, Robert Ricker, who says that the industry knows about illegal gun sales by its dealers and makes a point of looking the other way. In fact, if you want, you could ignore this whole dirty spectacle, but to do that, you'd have to ignore what is going on in America's national shooting gallery every day. And that, of course, is harder to do"


Michael Moore's home page. The words "national shooting gallery are a link to Mike Magnum. :banghead:

larryw
May 20, 2003, 08:26 PM
Last time I checked, providing bogus contact information to the domain registrar was ground for getting relegated to the Internet wasteland (no DNS record). IIRC, the Hollywood "elite" just used that strategy to shut down a site that they didn't like.

So, if one feels the need to step on his First Ammendment rights, that's where I'd start.

MicroBalrog
May 20, 2003, 08:33 PM
Who do I need to contact to tell them about it?

Pendragon
May 20, 2003, 09:08 PM
That is most definately NOT stepping on his first ammendment rights.

He takes a lot of cheap shots at various people, orgs and companies. I see no reason he should not be held to the same standards as everyone else who owns a domain. This is not government restriction and there is no guarantee of anonymity.

I own a domain and my email and address are exposed to the world.

Light him up.

CZ-75
May 21, 2003, 01:00 AM
Who do I need to contact to tell them about it?

Probably his registrar, Register.com.

Then buy his domain name. :evil:

Ryder
May 21, 2003, 02:01 AM
He is a satirist. Interesting. I can see the point behind satire and it strikes some kind of twisted funny bone in me but I'd have to say this guy's work is far from having any comedic value.

No matter what the subject of satire is there's always some special interest group offended by it. I always wondered how others could miss the point of the comedy even if it wasn't very funny. Now I know exactly how they feel. Still I see no reason to change my long standing principle that attacking a satirist is wrong.

I am actually stupid enough to believe that this guy's work may be useful in bringing antis around to logical thought patterns as they realize some parallels to their own thinking. In other words how can they not see just how rediculous these positions are even if it is "for the cause".

There's a time and place for everything. I think this guy's time and place (Current Chicago) couldn't be any better for him to be trying to make a buck doing this work. Fix Chicago to end this guy's gig. The situation in Chicago is a serious threat to all Americans, unlike some sad excuse for a comedian.

Justin
May 21, 2003, 02:04 AM
I fail to see what this gains us. Some unknown, no talent clown gets hounded on. Big freaking deal.

You want an expose?

Get information on where Tom Diaz shoots the handguns he owns. Get picks of Tommy shooting said handguns.
Disseminate said info on every public forum you can.

That might accomplish something.

Matt G
May 21, 2003, 02:26 AM
"Gonzo Schexnayder"??!?
Can you say "pseudonymn"? :)

Pendragon
May 21, 2003, 04:34 AM
Still I see no reason to change my long standing principle that attacking a satirist is wrong.

Beating up a satirist in the street would be wrong.

Calling attention to him violating the rules that everyone is subject to and invoking a punishment or taking the domain would be delightful.

After all, the antis are always trying to construct all these rules about how people obtain firearms. They seem to like it when regular people get sent up the river for violating a law - never mind the lack of criminal intent.

Since this is the kind of world they seem to want to live in, I say - bring it.

No quarter.

fallingblock
May 21, 2003, 05:29 AM
Often the only effective rebuke for these bitterly politicized "performers'', the only means of demonstrating to them their hypocricy, is to call them on it.:)

gunsmith
May 21, 2003, 05:43 AM
they get sent to a human right,armed females of America
& several other good gun sites:D !
"we" have a few satirical sites as well
http://www.handguncontrolinc.org/
:neener:
lets keep the pressure on the leglislature,executive
branches :scrutiny:

Carlos Cabeza
May 21, 2003, 12:04 PM
Eddie Eagle only teaches children what irresponsible parents try to hide and protect from the harsh and bitter realities of truth.
Mikey Whatsisname is a loathesome Chicagoan, in the heart of violence. Repeat after me......
I'M UNARMED, PLEASE DON"T HURT ME !...........

CZ-75
May 21, 2003, 12:18 PM
Can you say "pseudonymn"?

I'm not so sure. Gonzo might not be his given name, but Schexnayder is a real name that seems to be indigenous to Louisiana, seemingly of Cajun origin. This clown's bio pointed in the direction of his growing up in Louisiana.

CZ-75
May 21, 2003, 12:26 PM
Thanks to Yahoo directory:

Wayne J. Schexnayder
624 W. Surf St.
Chicago, IL

773-244-9047

The address is the same one listed previously on his site.

joeislove
May 21, 2003, 01:46 PM
You know....harassing this guy because you disagree with his views seems pretty wrong, and will not really help anything. He's not going to change his mind. In fact, he'll probably just talk about how the vast conspiracy of Internet gun nuts threatened him, when he does his next article.

I really wish you would just leave this guy alone. You're making the rest of us look bad.

CZ-75
May 21, 2003, 03:56 PM
Oh, I haven't harrassed him.

However, he's out of the closet, so to speak.

BTW, how much worse could we appear to him and his ilk? :rolleyes:

Appeasement doesn't work. That's about as bad as going around with a "please don't hurt me, I'm unarmed shirt" and meaning it. Perhaps you should leave your gun at home and trust to the goodness of others from now on. :rolleyes:

Bartholomew Roberts
May 21, 2003, 04:30 PM
What is this guy's big crime anyway? That he is an unfunny satirist who has different political views than you?

Talk about misdirected effort, you could write somebody who could actually make a difference in the time it takes you to hound this poor idiot.

1) Write your Congressman or Senator
2) Write your President
3) Write the Party Chairman - they always need money and votes and will go where those are
4) Write a newspaper to correct the latest gun-related error they have printed. Maybe they'll do a CNN and actually start to fact-check things (works from Israel too)

Any one of those will have about 10x the effect that harassing some random knucklehead on the internet will.

For that matter, this guy is doing us a service, he may not be funny; but he does link to websites (like Oleg's) where people can actually see a conflicting view from the one so carefully spoonfed to them by the Brady bunch. That is about 100% more education than most of these people will get from other anti sites.

CZ-75
May 21, 2003, 05:43 PM
What is this guy's big crime anyway?

Spouting BS from behind cover.




1) Write your Congressman or Senator
2) Write your President
3) Write the Party Chairman - they always need money and votes and will go where those are

I called. That okay?




I suggest, should anyone bother to contact him, that you lay off the expletives and death threats.

Merely point out that you think he's a coward and full of sh_t. Be sure to use as much biographical data as possible and refer to him by his real name. This way he knows that he can't hide and has to take responsibility for what he posts on his site.

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