differences between CZ75B and CZ75 police


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carlrodd
November 13, 2006, 03:07 PM
i know the Police version has a decocker. i assume there must be other differences given the difference in price; like 50-75 bucks retail, in favor of the Police. also, i spied a police 'semi-compact' that strongly resembled the CZ75 compact. differences there? both were new in box.

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Mark54g
November 13, 2006, 03:26 PM
The police has a decocker (so it is like a 75BD) and has a loaded chamber indicator. I also believe they come with night sights, so that would be worth more. For a while, they were selling rather cheaply.

carlrodd
November 13, 2006, 03:30 PM
an additional question.....how come there is no mention of the 'police' version on the cz-usa site?

coltrane679
November 13, 2006, 04:27 PM
They are some kind of overrun, which accounts for the pricing.

They are not true (tritium) night sights, I think--they are glow in the dark stuff.

It also has a lanyard loop at the bottom of the magwell.

TH CZ forum probably has all the answers.

Ricebrnr
November 13, 2006, 10:46 PM
What Is the CZ 75BD Police? Like the previous “CZ 75B Military” promotional pistols, the “CZ 75BD Police” is not a separate model, but a standard CZ model packaged as a special offer. Like the CZ 75B Military, the CZ 75BD police comes with one 15 round magazine and one 10 round magazine. The confusion over the CZ 75BD Police stems from the fact that this name combines elements of two standard CZ model names, the CZ 75 POLICE and the CZ 75BD.

The CZ 75 POLICE has the distinction of introducing the decocking lever in a full size CZ 75 series pistol; traditionally, the CZ 75/85 series pistols have a Browning-type manual safety. The original CZ 75 POLICE has a loaded chamber indicator and a lanyard mount in the butt. (See page 18 of the current CZ 75 series manual.) It is only available in black polycoat and chambered in 9mm Luger (9mm Parabellum, 9x19). Special features can be ordered from the factory (such as night sights). These were originally designed for a Brazilian police contract.

This model was sold in Europe for a number of years, and some 2002 models have turned up in the USA. Apparently, CZ did not produce new handguns in this configuration for a number of years, but recently began doing so again. The CZ 75 POLICE model was listed on the CZ-UB (Czech) website until January 2003, but it is not currently listed. The CZ-USA website and 2003 paper catalog do not list the model. It seems safe to assume that quantities are fairly limited at present.

The CZ 75BD is a "Plain Jane" version of the CZ 75 POLICE; it lacks the loaded chamber indicator and lanyard mount. (See page 18 of the current CZ 75 series manual.) The CZ 75BD is only available in black polycoat and chambered in 9mm Luger (9mm Parabellum, 9x19). My personal theory is that this model was an attempt to test civilian interest in a full-sized CZ 75 series pistol with a decocking lever, rather than a manual safety.

This model has been available in the U.S. for some time; however, like the CZ 75 DAO, it was never very popular. Stocking CZ dealers rarely, if ever, carried the CZ 75BD before 2002. To be fair, the CZ 75B Military handguns outsold all other models during the years that they were readily available from CZ-USA.

CZ-USA ran the "CZ 75B Military" promotional handgun offer from 1997-2001. By 2000, supplies were drying up, and some 1999 commercial pistols were released with a 15 round magazine, like the Turkish military pistols had been. In 2002, CZ-USA replaced this promotion with the "CZ 75BD Police" promotional offer. These are actually CZ 75BD models, not CZ 75 POLICE models. CZ-USA called this the "CZ 75BD Police" for reasons of their own.

I can offer some possible suggestions. 1) Since the 75B promotion was the "Military," the 75BD promotion was the "Police." 2) The BD is definitely a police pistol in origin, since decocker models were introduced purely because certain customers wanted them (including the Police of the Czech Republic and the Brazilian national police force). 3) Since it appears that the true CZ 75 POLICE model had not yet been imported into the US, there really was no cause for confusion. Advertisements for the CZ 75BD Police and the CZ-USA website make it pretty clear that the promotional pistols do not have loaded chamber indicators, etc.

In summary:
1) The CZ 75BD Police promotional pistol is a CZ 75BD, not a CZ 75 POLICE.
2) Unlike the original Turkish CZ 75B Military pistols, the CZ 75BD Police pistols are not contract overrun pistols.
3) The vast majority of CZ modern-production pistols have a Browning-type manual safety, not a decocker. The CZs with decocking levers are a direct result of the interest that various law enforcement agencies around the world have shown for the CZ 75 series.

zamboxl
November 15, 2006, 01:06 AM
question: what does the banyard grip looks like, i have a cz 75bd police with the loaded indicator, and the crapy night sights, cool thing about the gun is the cerial number, its a couple of letters and the number 11, sweet i got the 11th gun in the letter designation.

CZF
November 15, 2006, 03:11 AM
By my info:

The CZ75 Police is a 75BD model with POLICE on the slide and actual nites as made by tru-dot. This model is no longer in production...same with the
Semi-Compact. I'd jump on the Semi-Compact if I were you.

http://www.hunt101.com/img/354389.JPG

Gary G23
November 15, 2006, 09:28 AM
The Semi-Compact has a full size frame and a Compact slide. I went to the gun store a few months ago to get a Compact and noticed the Semi-Compact in the case priced $100 less than the Compact. The Semi fit my hand better so I took it home.

Bazooka Joe71
November 15, 2006, 02:02 PM
I don't want to steal this thread by any means, but can someone tell me what the advantages to having a decocker over an ambi thumb safety is?

It just seems like cocked and locked is a much safer idea.

thanks

atblis
November 15, 2006, 03:28 PM
is that recently it has become considered dangerous to decock a gun by lowering the hammer by hand. The reason decocking has become more popular (whether by hand or lever) is that carrying a pistol cocked and locked (like a 1911) is now also considered dangerous or rather has become less popular. This is influenced by the law enforcement community. Even though Glocks can be not be decocked by hand or lever, I would argue that their widespread popularity has contributed to this trend.

I think the fear of lawyers is the cause of this trend, which means it may or may not be rational or warranted.

AFIK, there haven't been any problems with the 1911/BHP being carried cocked and locked sans decocker for ~100 years.

Also. I've been seeing the CZ75BD Police around me for $359.99 NIB with real night sights. Awesome deal.

5string_dean
November 15, 2006, 03:45 PM
They are not true (tritium) night sights, I think--they are glow in the dark stuff.

Picked up a CZ-75 BD Police last March.... $325 NIB... it came with REAL TRITIUM night sights NOT the "glow in the dark stuff." I couldn't say for sure that all of the POLICE models come with Tritiums, but mine did (shocked the heck out of me! :) )

It's a great gun... accurate, high capacity, and built like a tank.

ElPasoWrangler
January 15, 2007, 12:38 AM
I own one of these guns and it has the lanyard loop as well as the loaded chamber indicator. It is a poly finish and is a recent purchase (2006) from a dealer in a local gun show. Yes, it is DA/SA and has the decocker. Eithr mine is an unsual model or some people have bad information from somewhere.

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