This is bugging me, i gotta know!


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shooter71
November 13, 2006, 07:04 PM
ok so im looking at knives..the ones i see that i like say something like "for military, police, fire" ....i dont have to be one of those to buy one, but if i ever had to use it the court part bugs me..those knives are no more deadlier than the spyderco i carry but i imagine in court some lawyer could use that against me.."why are u carrying a knife that says its meant for the military , law etc" see where im going with this?..none of the ones i am looking at are "assisted" folders..just plain ole manual blades ..so whats your take on this??...its prb a lame question but i want to be a lawful citizen and all that so i just had to air this out..ok i fell better..
so in short does it really matter what knife you buy except a switchblade and i know they are a no no..so am i worried about the "wording" of the knife too much?
discuss :D

my spyderco
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f255/Speed_Racer71/spyderco.jpg

what im looking at (i like the Lightfoot the best)
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f255/Speed_Racer71/CRKTlightfootM1.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f255/Speed_Racer71/CRKTM21specforces.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f255/Speed_Racer71/CRKTM16.jpg

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trueblue1776
November 13, 2006, 07:21 PM
I think you're worried over nothing, a knife is a knife, especially a folder with less than a 4" blade. If you stab someone in the face you are in trouble no matter what your knife says on it.

stdlrf11
November 13, 2006, 07:39 PM
Lawyers can and will say anything to win their case. As long as it is BS and you can prove its BS then you are okay. Just because they claim something doesn't mean you're screwed.

I'd say, "If it's good enough for them, then its good enough for me."

stdlrf11

stdlrf11
November 13, 2006, 07:40 PM
Oops, double post.

hso
November 13, 2006, 08:03 PM
Your Spyderco is a great knife. The Lightfoot is excellent also. The Spyderco is flat in the pocket and the hand. The Lightfoot fills the hand more and the pocket as well.

Don't worry about the hype. As long as the knife is legal under your local law it doesn't matter what it's called.

Pax Jordana
November 13, 2006, 08:54 PM
I think I get what the OP means, though.

The distinction is between "designed for law enforcement and military" in the ad copy, and those knives which are of a design restricted to LE/M use.

The knives you're looking at are fine. You open them using people power. There may be restrictions on blade length for carry in your home state, but they're still legal to own.

Automatic, and some forms of "assisted opening" knives, are restricted by law and won't be sold without verifiable credentials.

IANAL. Nor do I play one on TV.

hso
November 13, 2006, 11:11 PM
Actually, assists so far are not restricted by law. There are some local DAs that are trying to treat them as automatic knives (switchblades), but they're in the minority.

So, as long as the knife is a standard side opening manual folder that has a blade length within the legal limit for a given jurisdiction (whew, that's a mouthfull of caviats {I wonder if that will make my dentist happy?})it should be ok. Get into balisongs and switchblades and gravity knives and you may run into problems depending upon where you are.

If the only thing LE/Military about a knife is the hype around it then you shouldn't worry about it.

Sunray
November 14, 2006, 12:11 AM
"...that says its meant for the military, law etc..." That's marketing. Nothing more. Knives are tools. Period.

shooter71
November 14, 2006, 10:52 AM
thats the way i feel ..a knife is a knife..blade on one end , handle on the other, with a locking mech in the middle
but i thought id toss it out to see what everyone said

JShirley
November 14, 2006, 11:37 AM
It's hard to find a better daily carry blade than the Spyderco Native.

shooter71
November 15, 2006, 11:49 AM
i agree with u shirley on that..i might get another one of those..except without the serations....its doesnt open boxes and stationary all that well with the serations lol

plus its a simple knife..no crazy locking mechs to fiddle with, very easy to operate, light , the clip is reverseable which thats the first thing i look at..i like the clip at the handle end not at the blade pivot end..why? well with it at the handle it its in your pocket the same position as it would be in your hand..you pull it out and open the blade..with it on the pivot end u have to get it out, flip it , then open...and as far as the CRKT knives the reg "sport" knives had the clip on the pivot end but the "professional" models had them on the handle end and were reverseable..major plus

Al Thompson
November 15, 2006, 04:42 PM
Prosecuter - "Why would you carry a LE/military style knife?"..... Me - I figured the LE/military folks would know knives and I wanted the best value for my money.

Nicolai
November 17, 2006, 08:37 AM
A couple of knives/tools that appear to be aimed directly at firefighters/police officers:
1. Randall's "fireman" model--short thick blade (fixed blade knife).
2. Wilson Tactical's "cop tool"--6" LOA, short blade, no point, serrated edge, hook-type cutter for seat belts, relatively thick metal for prying.
Can't help but believe that the Randall "fireman" and "cop tool" may be too specialized for regular folks. I happen to think the Spyderco or Lightfoot are excellent choices for daily carry/use. Good advice in previous notes on blade length restrictions, and some bonehead municipalities may have restrictions and/or bans on lock-blade knives, so you need to be careful if those are in place.

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