Hideout Grips & J-frames...


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Stephen A. Camp
November 14, 2006, 12:16 PM
Hello. Getting a grip on the brisk-recoiling J-frames is something that several approaches have sought to solve. While some are happy with the smallish wooden grips that used to come on S&W J-frames, others complained of their just being too small for any real control at speed. Other grip manufacturers offered larger grips that certainly helped controlling the gun, but negated its small size. Some used the Tyler grip adapter with success while it just didn't "do it" for others.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/hipowersandhandguns/SWModel37ammorock1.jpg
Here we see a Model 37-2 with some smooth S&W wooden grips with a Tyler grip adapter in place. Many, including myself find this a satisfactory setup. The only problem with wood grips in my experience is that if worn next to the skin, over time the grip next to it becomes "stained" with perspiration. Though these stocks are smooth, the most common were checkered and it could abrade the skin on some folks.

In recent years, S&W has produced its line of snubs with checkered rubber boot grips and most, including myself, seem to find them a very good compromise with regard to both size, feel, and control, but some just don't like "soft" grips or expouse that the rubber tends to cling to clothing and is more likely to "print."

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/hipowersandhandguns/SWM37rock1.jpg
Here's the rubber grips that have come on S&W J-frames in recent years. They work fine with speedloaders as is and I've found them satisfactory.

A while back I ordered a set of Precision's "Hideout Grips." These inexpensive (under $20) grips do not extend below the bottom of the revolver frame and are uncheckered. They are made of hard nylon. I put them on an S&W Model 042.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/hipowersandhandguns/SWModel042rock1.jpg
These are the Precision Hideout Grips on my Model 042. You can see the area that has been reduced on the top of the grip.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/hipowersandhandguns/SWM042alteredgrip2.jpg
Here is a better picture of the reduction. Mr. Hogue and others have nothing to fear from me as a "grip maker" but I do wish that Precision would offer the grip reduced in this area from the package.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/hipowersandhandguns/SWM042speedloader1.jpg
As you can see, the modified grip allows easy use of a speedloader. For those who use speed strips or simply load one or two at a time, the grips work fine as they are.

The grips stayed tight and in place during firing and while not "elegant" in looks, neither do they cling to clothing or abrade the body if pressing tightly against the torso...but they were not perfect.

I found that there was no way to use a speedloader with the Hideout Grips as they came from the plastic bag. (They work fine with speed strips.)

Starting with 180-grit sandpaper, I thinned and dressed down the upper portion of the left grip panel until an HKS speedloader could be easily used. When I saw that enough material had been removed, I cleaned it up with 1000-grit. The job took about 20 minutes.

Yesterday, I received another set and found them identical to the set I bought about a year ago for the Model 042. I gave these the same treatment and with the same results.

There is nothing astounding are particularly "news worthy" in this information, but if you are not happy with the stocks on your J-frame and think this might be a solution, the post might be of use.

It would not be an expensive proposition to find out.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/hipowersandhandguns/SWM642HideoutGripstile1.jpg
Here's the second set of worked over Hideout Grips on a Model 642.

I'm sure these grips can be purchased elsewhere, but I got mine here:

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/productdetail.aspx?p=9924&s=

There are some options available in the grips style itself, but I chose the plain black w/o finger grooves.

Best.

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bubbygator
November 14, 2006, 01:53 PM
S&W used to supply an answer like this with their 60LS, a smooth and pretty "Dymondwood" boot-grip, if I recall correctly. Many CCW's prefer the earliest Crimson Trace Lasergrip of the hard polymer variety because of it's smaller "boot" size and non-catching surface.

The answer Mr. Camp suggests is a good one - allowing relatively easy modification to personal fit. Some years back, I discovered that the gauze-like tennis-grip tape was excellent in finishing-off "custom" grip jobs that didn't look all that pretty. It gives an effective surface that doesn't grab on clothes, looks OK, and is cheap.

GunNut
November 14, 2006, 02:45 PM
Stephen,

Those are really nice looking grips and really inexpensive too.

I'll have to looking into those when I pick up a 642 or 640 down the road.

Steve

Harry Paget Flashman
November 14, 2006, 03:32 PM
The Precision Hideout Grips for the J frame look nice but the website indicates that they only are made for round butts. Otherwise, I wouldn't mind having a set.

Old Fuff
November 14, 2006, 03:48 PM
I would mention that in addition to the points that Stephen made, these grips do not have finger grooves. Is that good or bad? Well if grooved grips fit your hand the grooves may be worthwhile, but if they don't they are worse then useless. In my case they usually don't, and for that reason I switched the ones currently under discussion.

barnett
November 14, 2006, 06:57 PM
as usual. mr. Camp. an excellent infromative post. this thread brings to mind a question. there are several "lists" of holstermaker's websites floating around the gun forums that i frequent. is there a similar list of grip makers that anyone here knows about?

steak-knife
January 27, 2010, 03:07 PM
Got both the standard and finger-groove grips for my 642 the other day, and have to say that the standard grips seem to have a better fit and finish than the finger-groove model. Don't get me wrong, I really want to like the finger-groove model, they do feel good in the hand, but there are just too uneven for my taste, i.e. there's a pronounced off-set seam in the fore-grip where the grips meet, and there's a bit of wobble on the right panel.

Not so with standard grips. Also, I do not have any problems using Safariland Comp II speed loaders. Will borrow my friend's HKS loaders to see if there's a real problem.

Lastly, the finger-groove model comes in a dark grey color, while the other is an almost black grey.

Hope this is helpful to anyone on the market for these grips. They are inexpensive, and for my purposes, they work great (pocket carry, BUG). BTW, I think I have/tried just about grip available for the J-Frame. From stock service grips with T-grips, to BBQ gun fancy wood panels, and obviously synthetics from Hogue, Pach, and Safariland. So far, the hideout grips are my flavor of the day.

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