(NV) Father Finds Naked Man in Bed With His 8-Year Old
Drizzt
May 20, 2003, 06:41 PM
Father Finds Naked Man in Bed With His 8-Year Old
May 20, 2003
Gerard Ramalho Reporting
A family wakes up to find a half naked man in bed with their 8-year old daughter. It happened over the weekend to one family in Mountain Springs out near Pahrump. Police say the half-naked man broke into the family's home while they were asleep. News 3's Gerard Ramalho reports.
The suspect is Donald Felix Keesing. And yes, while all this was happening -- he was refering to himself as the "medicine man of love and peace." The family was too upset to talk about it -- and neighbors in the area still can't believe it happened.
A favorite spot for local bikers, the town of Mountain Springs is little more than a watering hole. The people who live here generally keep to themselves and rarely make the evening news.
"Shocked, Shocked... That something like that would happen up here." But that all changed this weekend.
Police say it started when the suspect wrecked his car in the area. They say he took off his clothes -- then proceeded to walk into the unsuspecting victim's home. Everyone was asleep, but eventually the parents woke up -- then they witnessed the unthinkable. "They opened the door and they determined that this person is laying in the bed, under the covers, with the 8-year-old... with his arm around her."
Authorities are still trying to determine if the little girl was sexually assaulted. Police say when they arrived -- the girl's father had beaten the suspect so badly -- they had to take him to the hospital. Those in the town say -- he's lucky he's even alive.
Police are still trying to figure out the "medicine man" angle to all this... the little girl did say the suspect tried to force a pill into her mouth. She says she didn't swallow it... she spit it out. Police say, so far, that evidence has still not been recovered.
Keesing has been charged with attempted sexual assault and will be booked into the Clark County jail once he's released from the hospital. If you have any additional information about him -- you can call the sexual assault unit directly at 229-3421.
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Ol' Badger
May 20, 2003, 06:54 PM
This is no laughing matter! It has happend to me a couple of times! :D
CZ-75
May 20, 2003, 07:29 PM
Police say when they arrived -- the girl's father had beaten the suspect so badly -- they had to take him to the hospital. Those in the town say -- he's lucky he's even alive.
They shoulda said "we have some coffee and sprinkle doughnuts in the car getting cold - see ya in 5 minutes."
SDC
May 20, 2003, 07:37 PM
I think "the medicine man of love and peace" is going to get all he can handle and more, when he's locked up :)
444
May 20, 2003, 07:52 PM
Wow, that is crazy. Mountain Springs is located about thrity miles in any direction from the nearest house outside of Mountain Springs. It is on top of the mountain between Las Vegas and Pahrump. The idea of a guy showing up out of the blue and entering your house is a remote chance. I wouldn't be surprised if this family didn't even lock their doors. Calling 911 would result in a very long response time. So I am sure the residents there are well prepared to take care of themselves.
"A favorite spot for local bikers, the town of Mountain Springs is little more than a watering hole. "
They don't portray the little settlement in a very favorable light. Real Estate there I am sure is VERY expensive and I guess it could pretty easily be called an exclusive community. Howevr, I guess all that matters is that there is a road side bar there which as far as I know is the only buisness there.
StLGlocker
May 20, 2003, 08:11 PM
Police say when they arrived the girl's father had beaten the suspect so badly they had to take him to the hospital. Those in the town say he's lucky he's even alive.
Good job, Dad.
Good thing this wasn't Britain, or they'd be charging him with assault or attempted murder or some crap. The rights of the burglar and all, y'know.
winstonsmith
May 20, 2003, 08:13 PM
If someone came into my room withought immediately identifying themselves, they would get my hatchet in their face. Or somewhere else, depending on their intentions.
I hope my dad would beat someone up that was trying to molest me. That is, after I got to tired to.
QuickDraw
May 20, 2003, 08:20 PM
the girl's father had beaten the suspect so badly -- they had to take him to the hospital. Those in the town say -- he's lucky he's even alive :what:
Good job Dad!!
QuickDraw
rock jock
May 20, 2003, 08:32 PM
Doesn't anybody lock their doors these days?
cool45auto
May 20, 2003, 08:38 PM
The same quote QuickDraw alread brought up would absolutely apply if I found someone like that in my little girl's room.
George Hill
May 20, 2003, 08:48 PM
Police say when they arrived -- the girl's father had beaten the suspect so badly -- they had to take him to the hospital. Those in the town say -- he's lucky he's even alive.
Very lucky.
I don't know about you guys, but when I get that feeling that I need to check something out... I do it with a my gun in my hand, round in the chamber, safety on, and finger alongside the frame.
Had I seen this... safety would have gone off, finger moved to the trigger... and the man would have suffered a contact shot to an occular cavity.
Feanaro
May 20, 2003, 09:01 PM
Dad shoulda finished the job. If I found a man trying to molest my (non-existant but that's beside the point) daughter he'd be lucky to be buried whole.
Standing Wolf
May 20, 2003, 09:14 PM
Police say when they arrived -- the girl's father had beaten the suspect so badly -- they had to take him to the hospital. Those in the town say -- he's lucky he's even alive.
Lucky he's even alive? I have a hunch he's going to wish the father had finished the job when he gets to prison.
HBK
May 20, 2003, 09:18 PM
I don't have the words for the depth of violence to which I would sink.
Bruce H
May 20, 2003, 09:27 PM
Any bets that the perp will wind up in the same cushy surroundings as John Hinkley?
P95Carry
May 20, 2003, 09:31 PM
Good thing this wasn't Britain, or they'd be charging him with assault or attempted murder or some crap. The rights of the burglar and all, y'know. StLGlocker ....... how disturbingly correct you are Sir ...... after all, he was only trying to ''comfort'' someone else's kid!!! :rolleyes:
Incredible eh? Quite surprised he is still in land of living.
Logistar
May 20, 2003, 09:52 PM
the girl's father had beaten the suspect so badly -- they had to take him to the hospital. Those in the town say -- he's lucky he's even alive But wait! Are we SURE that the suspect presented a clear threat of death or great bodily harm to the dad. Seems to me like we have an assault case brewing against Dear 'ol Dad.
Logistar
(Of course if I'd been the Dad they'd probably have never found the body.:cuss: )
Preacherman
May 20, 2003, 09:58 PM
For those who've raised the point of how he's going to be treated in prison - you got that right, folks! I'm a chaplain at a max-security prison, and those on the compound who are child-molesters live in a constant state of fear that their crime will be discovered. If they're found out, their lives tend to be short, nasty and painful... their only recourse is to request protective custody, which means they're locked down 23 hours a day in our Special Housing Unit, in the company of others with similar criminal backgrounds, getting out for an hour a day to exercise in a concrete yard, surrounded by wire (and roofed by wire), with no view except the concrete walls and the meaningful gestures (and words!) of other inmates in the neighboring exercise pods. If you've got a 20-year sentence, this can get awful tiring...
Not all of them are lucky enough to make it unscathed into PC - some of them have paid the price for their crimes in ways you don't even want to think about!
Feanaro
May 20, 2003, 10:02 PM
Aye, I've heard quite a bit about how inmates treat child molesters. And they get what they deserve.
Mike Irwin
May 20, 2003, 10:24 PM
"This is no laughing matter! It has happend to me a couple of times!"
What, you're an 8 year old girl and you keep finding naked guys in your bed?
:eek:
Sir Galahad
May 20, 2003, 10:36 PM
The dad should have remembered all the abandoned mine shafts in that region and taken that POS rapid-descent spelunking.
pittspilot
May 20, 2003, 11:14 PM
My daugher is almost seven.
I am not by nature a violent person.
But in this case, I can make an exception :fire:
OEF_VET
May 21, 2003, 02:44 AM
If it had been me, the wife and I would be paying for a new bedroom set for the kid, as I doubt I'd be able to clean ole' medicine man's blood out of the sheets and off the walls.
I hope he likes the taste of a pillow, as I have a feeling he'll have his face buried in one as he screams in pain once he gets inside the prison walls.
Frank
quote:"But wait! Are we SURE that the suspect presented a clear threat of death or great bodily harm to the dad. Seems to me like we have an assault case brewing against Dear 'ol Dad."
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Assault Charge??
I hope not, the guy was in his right to defend his daughter against an ADULT, bigger, stronger,half naked,under the covers with an 8 y/o, whom tried to give her a pill.
I'm allowed to use deadly force If I'm in fear of my life, I may also use in the stoppage of someone whom is commiting lethal force against another person. In the stoppage of a felony, sexual assault, rape, arson, murder.
Sounds dead to rights on my end.
citizen
May 21, 2003, 07:36 AM
I'm wondering who bothered to call Metro......
"town"??? A village would be an exaggeration....
Sheesh; just goes to show ya what can happen to criminals without the po-po around to protect them....:D
chaim
May 21, 2003, 09:37 AM
Had that happened here, central MD, and certainly if it had happened in Baltimore dad would be in jail right now after being charged with assult and probably attempted murder. If he was white and the intruder, oh I mean victim, black he'd be facing every charge they could bring (at least if he was in Baltimore). Obviously, if you are able to beat him up he didn't pose a real threat and all you had to do is restrain him (gently).:banghead:
chaim
May 21, 2003, 09:40 AM
Oh yeah...
If that happens to me after I'm a dad and I find someone in bed w/ my 8 year old daughter he would be perforated with so many .45 or .357 caliber holes that you could use his body as a sieve. And I'm pretty much the least violent person you can ever meet.
foghornl
May 21, 2003, 09:45 AM
Child molesters/rapists tend to have a short and unhappy life in prison. It is too bad that it is not a looong and unhappy life.
I do not advocate violence against other HUMANS, however, those aforementioned individuals are NOT human, nor can they ever be rehabilitated, whatever that means.
Don Gwinn
May 21, 2003, 10:42 AM
Well, give them time. We haven't heard from his family yet about how all he wanted to do was spread love and he hardly ever rapes children when he takes his medications.
It's coming.
erikm
May 21, 2003, 01:45 PM
Nice work by the dad...
Reading the article I'm starting to wonder if the perp is still in the human gene pool. If it turns out he isn't, maybe someone should nominate him for a Darwin Award (http://www.darwinawards.com/). I also doubt many people would complain if it turns out that the dad mauled the perp enough for the perp to have to choose between gangrene and ..well.. :D . However it turns out he will live in really interesting times until he leaves prison.
IMO he also truly deserve it. :evil:
Cheers,
ErikM
cordex
May 21, 2003, 02:22 PM
"Yes officer, you heard me correctly. Five gallon buckets and lots of sponges. Yes, sir. That's right, sir. Sponges. And buckets."
gun-fucious
May 21, 2003, 03:29 PM
The mental colateral damage to the family
of Dad blasting the perp in the daughters bed would be costly
but anything other than what they did would be premeditated...
Shalako
May 21, 2003, 04:11 PM
In the olden days, this guy would have swiftly adorned the nearest oak tree.
But nowadays society is more advanced, and the trash is swept to the side to accumulate.
TheLastBoyScout
May 21, 2003, 06:23 PM
OORAH DAD!
I'm generally non-aggressive... but if I found some subhuman form of life like that individual messing with my future hypothetical kid, that would be a definite exception. There are a number of possible responses in my mind right now, and none of them envision the perp still drawing breath for very long after I find him.
Feanaro
May 21, 2003, 06:43 PM
The mental colateral damage to the family
So take him outside and do it.
ed dixon
May 24, 2003, 06:09 PM
Like my grandmother used to say "Some people should just be taken out to the woods and shot." I'm pretty sure she'd make an exception in this case... it being the desert and all.
Mizzoutiger
May 25, 2003, 12:15 AM
Thank you Preacherman for restoring my faith in the penal system.
I'll tell y'all... I'd take pleasure in "curb stomping" this waste of DNA. May he meet the wrong end of Bubba's shank.
Wildalaska
May 25, 2003, 01:51 PM
A yes vigilante violence..how manly!...so...so..bubba american in its testosterone gun wielding walter mitty macho fantasy..
Thank god the Brady Bunch doesnt read this Board...
Innocent till proven guilty, tried convicted and throw away the key, god bless america.
WildthisthreadispuerileAlaska
Erik
May 25, 2003, 02:03 PM
Thank goodness dad wasn't a heavier sleeper. *shudder*
CZ-75
May 25, 2003, 02:30 PM
Innocent till proven guilty, tried convicted and throw away the key, god bless america.
:rolleyes:
This story remind you of one of your former clients?
A nude man with his daughter is all the proof I'd need. I'm sure his troubled childhood excuses his behavior. :barf:
Spark
May 25, 2003, 02:46 PM
God, I don't even want to think about how I'd handle this.
Mizzoutiger
May 25, 2003, 07:09 PM
I'm sure this wacko had a great explanation for why he was naked in bed with the man's daughter.
If it were my child I'd would take an aggravated assault charge with pride for beating that guy's face in.
Wildalaska
May 25, 2003, 09:37 PM
This story remind you of one of your former clients?
No actually it reminds me of people who think any law they dont like does not apply to them.
Actually, I have more respect for a skell like this who obviously has a screw loose, than for skells who purport to be intelligent and normal and blatantly brag about how they will or have intentionally violated the law.
Glad you have appointed yourself judge, jury and executioner. Im sure troubled childhoods excuses vigilante behavior.
:barf:
WildonlythelawabidingdeservefirearmsAlaska
rebbryan
May 25, 2003, 10:27 PM
i'd have beaten the snot out of him too, they'd have a hard time identifying him. Good show 'ol boy
CZ-75
May 26, 2003, 02:12 AM
I have more respect for a skell like this who obviously has a screw loose
I'm glad you have such simpatico for child molestors. :uhoh:
:barf:
who purport to be intelligent....
I guess you exclude yourself from this category, eh? ;)
WildonlythelawabidingdeservefirearmsAlaska
Too bad you got the guilty off the hook, then?
Pretty distorted outlook, I'd say. :rolleyes:
Sergeant Bob
May 26, 2003, 02:54 AM
Wildalaksa No actually it reminds me of people who think any law they dont like does not apply to them.
What law would that be? The one that says we can't defend our children from harm by naked perverts who break into our house and assault our 8 year old children? If there actually was a law like that, any man who would not break it, could not really be considered a man. That father was completely justified to beat that sexual predator to a bloody pulp, and no one with a moral compass pointing True North would have faulted him for blowing the pervert's brains out.
What would you do if your 8 year old daughter was being assaulted by a naked pervert? It is our duty to protect our families from harm. Who protects yours?
DrPsycho
May 26, 2003, 04:11 AM
This reported case is a little close to my heart... My partner was raped when she was nine years of age. I secretly harbour feelings of 'disrespect' in some ways towards her parents for not having fulfilled their duties in protecting her from harm (even tho I didn't know her/them back then, nor the circumstances surrounding; and I don't blame them for what's happened). But nonetheless this has stirred some mixed feelings in me and there will no doubt always be friction between myself and her parents.
If anything, it's been "the event" in life for me to make sure I attend to my responsibilities when I become a husband and father... and has also sparked my interest in firearms for defense purposes.
I'm also struggling with certain emotions over people who do these sorts of things - harbouring extreme hatred, I find myself unable to forgive, and it's something I hate about myself. I'm strongly religious and would never have thought I could hate someone so much that I wish they could die a slow painful death.
It's certainly something I don't wish on anyone, not even my worse enemy.
Wildalaska
May 26, 2003, 04:13 AM
I'm glad you have such simpatico for child molestors
No actually I find nutcases to be far more sympathetic than intentional violators..
I guess you exclude yourself from this category, eh
Ah yes ad hominem attacks.....I expected nothing less...
Too bad you got the guilty off the hook, then?
O yes Im sorry I forgot..YOUR the one who decides guilt or innocence,....the whole American system of justice bows before you o diety:barf:
WildaddanothertotheignorelistAlaska
Wildalaska
May 26, 2003, 04:19 AM
What law would that be? The one that says we can't defend our children from harm by naked perverts who break into our house and assault our 8 year old children?
Never contended that one cannot use proper force to defend ones loved ones.....
That father was completely justified to beat that sexual predator to a bloody pulp, and no one with a moral compass pointing True North would have faulted him for blowing the pervert's brains out.
O really....you advocate murder too? Lets say that after dad has the perp under control, its OK just to put a gun to his head and shoot him..?? Thats not murder? Where do you start drawing the line....
WildcrimeiscrimeAlaska
Sergeant Bob
May 26, 2003, 05:37 AM
Never contended that one cannot use proper force to defend ones loved ones.....
What do you define as proper force, taking into account THERE IS A NAKED PERVERT IN YOUR DAUGHTER'S BED WITH HIS ARM AROUND HER!!! Suppose he decides to crush her windpipe. Break her neck? What are you going to do, ask him nicely to leave? You don't know what he's going to do. If you stand around waiting to find out, it may be too late.
Lets say that after dad has the perp under control, its OK just to put a gun to his head and shoot him..??
Did I say anything about tieing him up and executing him? That ,is your idea.
Actually, I have more respect for a skell like this who obviously has a screw loose, than for skells who purport to be intelligent and normal and blatantly brag about how they will or have intentionally violated the law.
You talk about ad hominem attacks? You called everyone you disagreed with homeless derelicts? :confused:
Byron Quick
May 26, 2003, 10:16 AM
WildAlaska,
Laws vary from state to state.
Here in Georgia, it's legal to shoot someone who has forcibly entered your home. There is no requirement for them to be armed. I secure my house. Therefore, if some idjit gets in, he broke in. It's legal open season.
Now what was that puerile pap about taking the law into your own hands?
LawDog
May 26, 2003, 01:28 PM
Enough.
LawDog
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