How to kill an alligator


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Richard2003
November 16, 2006, 10:59 AM
A friend has an alligator threatening his condo community.
He has a Glock in .40.
Is that enough to kill the thing?

Richard

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hankdatank1362
November 16, 2006, 11:08 AM
Tell him ABSOLUTELY UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES do not shoot the alligator. Call Animal Control. It's their job, let them handle it.

Alligators and crocodiles are protected species in many states, I do believe. I remember being young at my dad's hunt club, and seeing a gator in the ditch.

"Can I shoot 'im, paw? (I wasn't that redneck as a kid, but close)

And all the old timers at the club let me know how much trouble I could get into for shooting a gator.

Of course, I could be wrong. But call Animal Control anyway.

hankdatank1362
November 16, 2006, 11:09 AM
But if it's okay to shoot it, Might I suggest 12GA slug to the head?

Cromlech
November 16, 2006, 11:21 AM
My advice may not be worth much, but if you have to shoot a gator or a croc, you need to hurt it bad, or kill it. Anything less will just make the bugger mad! :what:

I saw Steve Irwin in Australia earlier this year, and those big crocs are NASTY.

LOST SOUL
November 16, 2006, 11:25 AM
It's Animal Controls job to get rid of it. But If you have to shoot it. A .40 wont work, you'll need the 12 ga to the head .

joab
November 16, 2006, 11:31 AM
In Florida you get fined or jailed for looking at one mean.
Call a trapper it's free and they can use the money they get from processing it

But a .22 in the right place is more than enough to kill it, during the proper hunting season
Don't shoot it between the eyes, shoot it at the base of the skull behind the eyes

WC145
November 16, 2006, 11:31 AM
To kill them quickly you have to shoot them in the brain, which is in a rather small area between the eyes and ears and encased in very thick, hard skull. My understanding is that it requires a high powered rifle round to penetrate the skull. If you shoot them in the body you can fill them full of holes and they'll keep coming, like a shark.

hankdatank1362
November 16, 2006, 11:32 AM
Yeah I always heard the skull was very thick. I don't think a .22 would cut it, but then again, I ain't never shot no gator.

quatin
November 16, 2006, 11:36 AM
Texas has alligator season :)

pharmer
November 16, 2006, 11:36 AM
An alligator threatening a whole condo community? What is it Gatorzilla?. Just stay away from it. It is great pest control. You know, dogs, cats small children, old ladies who feed it, etc :neener: Joe

Lonestar
November 16, 2006, 11:39 AM
If you don't know how to kill a gator, call animal control. What you don't want is a PO, wounded Gator, wandering the condo property. A guy did that to a Black Bear round here. The Bear was probably minding it own business nosing around our suburb and would have probably moved on, instead someone took a shot at it with a pistol (A cop I know said it looked like a .380 or 9mm FMJ, broadside hit near the front shoulder) and now the bear was PO and wounded, wandering the neighborhood and trying to hide under people decks. Police and Animal control came out and finished the job.

Cromlech
November 16, 2006, 11:43 AM
Yeah. It is also worth noting that Crocodiles and Alligators have very small brains, so it may be hard to achieve a fatal head-shot.

Boom-stick
November 16, 2006, 11:44 AM
Watcha gotta do is sneek up on it, grab it from behind and stick your thumb in it's butt hole:evil:

That should get it really pi$$ed off.... and kill it.......probably......:rolleyes:

joab
November 16, 2006, 11:51 AM
I don't think a .22 would cut it, but then again, I ain't never shot no gator.I have, it does
I have also killed them with a short machete the same way (small gator) But them I'm old enough to remember when they were treated like the nuisance that they are.

Boom-stick
November 16, 2006, 11:55 AM
Or one of these

http://www.bangsticks.com/

Big Calhoun
November 16, 2006, 12:17 PM
I believe, as told to be by a Flordia native of the everglades, the correct detterent for an alligator is to either gouge it in the eyes or catch its mouth on the up swing and keep it closed -- apparently they exhibit very little pressure when opening their mouths. It's when closing that you have a problem, and virtually no chance.

Hoppy590
November 16, 2006, 12:34 PM
you will need about 5 lbs of hamburger meat, 1 lb of C4 and a remote control car....ya thats right, tremors style

Gunpacker
November 16, 2006, 01:30 PM
In Florida, a woman went to jail for shooting a gator that was attacking her dog. Not sure what would have happened if it had been attacking a child.

cajun47
November 16, 2006, 01:47 PM
i gator hunt in louisiana. i get tags issued by the state. i have killed thousands of gators over the years.

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i don't know if its legal for you to kill it or not but as far as if a .40 will kill it, hell yea. i kill most of my large gators(7 to 12 foot beast) with my .45acp. one shot to the head using hollow points is enough but on the real big fat ones i always put 3. the guy that said a .22 will kill it if shot at the base of the scull is right. the gator's head has the scull plate it sorta curve in like this ( if you shoot right behind there its soft and usually an instant kill but i would still shoot it more.

most of my gators are on a hook and line i set up that is tied to a tree. im in real close. i pull them close to the boat and shoot. this is why i use a .45acp, i don't have time to find the soft spot plus a large gator may break the huge line or actually bend the huge hook if i play around. its not actually hunting its gator fishing imo. its not a sport, its my job and they are sold for the hide and meat. i will take a good clear shot with my sks or ak47 if i see one swimming around in a shallow area. a 7.62x39mm to the head is instant kill.

the .45acp corbon +p hollow points penetrate the thick scull and go in 3 or 4 inches. gators won't attack you if you are shooting at it, even with a .22, in my experience anyway. one night around 2am i was driving along a highway near the mississippi river. i saw a HUGE gator on the road right after a curve. i decided to stay and warn traffic cause that thing was as big as the 11 footers i killed. big and fat. he didn't seem to care about the traffic. he just stayed there all fearless. a nearby resident came along with a .22 rifle. he asked if i wanted some gator meat, i said no. he said he doesn't want that monster near his house. i said i don't blame you but that .22 might not be enough. he said "o yea". he walked up to the gator and started shooting from about 20 yards away. as he shot it 10 times in the head the gator just started backing away then died. i was standing by my truck with my .45acp just in case.

WolfMansDad
November 16, 2006, 01:53 PM
Why kill it, again? I've never heard of an alligator "threatening" an entire condo.

I know some people in Louisiana who had a gator where they worked. They fed it and turned it into a sort of workplace mascot. Then, once it had come to trust humans, some jerkwad shot it. It really liked doughnuts.

Unless you are planning on eating it, I would leave it alone. If there are kids around, just tell them not to pet it.

Essex County
November 16, 2006, 01:55 PM
I'll admit I have no personal experience, but wouldn't depth charges be approprite? Essex

ripcurlksm
November 16, 2006, 02:07 PM
RUN!
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/11/photogalleries/godzilla/images/primary/godzilla.jpg

cajun47
November 16, 2006, 02:08 PM
only problem if its really hungry it can eat a child. not likely but is that a chance a parent should take?

a real threat is if a child(or adult) finds or goes near a gator nest by accident. the mother gator will kill. on the spot. no warning. they are fast.

kill it or have it removed asap. they are predatory killing machines. nothing more nothing less. "but gators where here long before humans, its there natural territory" if one feels guilty about gator rights, move.

Exmasonite
November 16, 2006, 03:27 PM
Illegal, illegal, illegal...

cbsbyte
November 16, 2006, 05:42 PM
Alligators live in all the Gulf Coast states, Georgia and South Carolina. Each state has its own laws pretaning to dealing with problem Allilgators. Florida laws are very strict in this regard, and killing an Alligator without the appropiate license is considered poaching even if it is done in self defense. Though in most cases the authorites will only slap the shooter with a fine. If your friend lives in Florida then he should call Animal control to deal with the problem. If it is a life and death situation then shoot to kill without regard to the law with a high volicity round to the head. A .357 or 44 Mag will do the trick. A .40 will probably only anger the creature unless you it in a vital area.

Browns Fan
November 16, 2006, 05:49 PM
Killin' gators? AP rounds come to mind...:uhoh:

Mannlicher
November 16, 2006, 06:47 PM
'gators are not that hard to kill. I have used everything from a bang stick to a .458 Winchester. Most of the ones I have taken were killed with a .22 magnum.
Be darn sure of your legal standing before you bust a cap on him though. As has been mentioned, its highly against the law in many places to shoot one. Nuisance animals are best left to the game and fish guys. If one has your child in it's mouth though, feel free to do what is necessary.

Anna's Dad
November 16, 2006, 07:12 PM
FWIW: They (the Government) are talking about removing gators from the protected list in Florida. Probably has something to do with our being up to our necks with them. :)

crunker
November 16, 2006, 07:25 PM
Call Animal Control, first.

However, the alligator might become an immediate threat long before Animal Control arrives, so you've got to use what's available.

.40S&W should be okay if you have a couple shots. The problem is that since alligators drag their prey underwater, a pistol bullet may not be able to reach the alligator with enough velocity to do damage underwater.

Get a shotgun.

Justin
November 16, 2006, 07:54 PM
Check your legal P's and Q's.
Call the authorities and get them to deal with it first.

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