Top Ten Worst States To Travel In With A Handgun


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May 21, 2003, 07:43 AM
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Top Ten Worst States
To Travel In With A Handgun
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By Chuck Baldwin
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The Covenant News ~ May 20, 2003
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A recent article written by attorney J. Scott Kappas for Handguns Magazine chronicles the ten worst states for U.S. citizens to travel in with a handgun. Interestingly enough, none of the offending states are located in the Southeast or the West. Predictably, seven of the ten are located in the Northeast. Here is the list, ranked in order.

1. Washington, D.C.
2. Massachusetts
3. Hawaii
4. New Jersey
5. New York
6. Connecticut
7. Maryland
8. Illinois
9. Rhode Island
10. Michigan

As I wrote in an earlier column, there is an effort underway in Congress for states to be able to reciprocate the Carry Concealed Weapon (CCW) permits nationwide. This would allow CCW permit holders to legally carry their concealed weapons when they travel outside their home states. Under this law, their CCW permits would be honored by the various states much in the same manner that driver's licenses are honored state-to-state.

The bill is numbered H.R. 990 and is titled the "Secure Access to Firearms Enhancement (SAFE) Act of 2003." The bill's chief sponsor is John Hostettler (R-8th/IN). I would think all gun owners would want to get behind this bill.

On the other hand, President Bush is pushing for an extension of the Clinton "assault weapons" ban which is scheduled to sunset next year. Republican Leaders in the House of Representatives are saying the extension will not clear the House, but with pressure mounting from the White House for the extension, nothing can be taken for granted.

Gun owners certainly need to lobby their congressmen to be sure they resist Bush's efforts and vote against granting the extension. If it did pass the House, it doubtless would pass the Senate and Bush would sign it.

In the meantime, be very careful about traveling with a handgun in the above listed states. Obviously, they have never heard of the Second Amendment. As a result, visitors to those states could find themselves equally victimized by both the criminals and the criminal justice system.

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MrAcheson
May 21, 2003, 09:06 AM
In Maryland a loaded magazine (or speedloader) is considered a firearm. This makes for some annoying transporting problems.

BTW it is my understanding that Bush is not pushing for an extension of the AWB. He is keeping his 2000 campaign promise that he would sign it if passed, but not push it through.

Perhaps the author knows something I do not, but please try to report honestly. Its sets us above the leftists.

winwun
May 21, 2003, 09:31 AM
MrA, thank you for pointing that out. There is a groundswell accusing POTUS of things he isn't doing, and as it is my habit to avoid confrontations, I choose to not reply to those who seem to be either baiting or parroting erroneous information. Thank you for setting the record straight.

CleverNickname
May 21, 2003, 06:24 PM
Why's Michigan on the list? They have shall-issue CCW and recognize all out-of-state permits.

I'm all for HR 990, but the way I read it, the law would only do good for people in places with some sort of carry law, whether shall- or may-issue. Places with with no carry provision (DC, IL, OH, WI, NE, KA and MO) would still be illegal to carry in. The article makes it sound like it would be legal to carry there under HR 990.

The feds shouldn't be dictating where we can carry, so I don't really have a problem with this.

treeprof
May 21, 2003, 06:39 PM
MI's on the list b/c w/out a carry permit, you are extremely limited in your ability to transport a handgun, in your car.

Kcustom45
May 22, 2003, 01:38 AM
A few of us took a trip up to Michigan to go the Cabela's, and before we went Cordex email the Attorney General (at least I think that is who it was). Anyway he said the Michigan would not honor our permits from Indiana because we were not 21. Let's just say I was less than thrilled.

Mizzoutiger
May 22, 2003, 01:56 AM
"Top Ten Worst States To Travel In With A Handgun"

"1. Washington, D.C."

:confused: So Washington D.C.'s a state now? :confused:

Hehe, just being nitpicky. Don't mind me.

I don't think I understand the criteria these states were judged on. Seems rather subjective to me.

stevelyn
May 22, 2003, 09:42 AM
None of those cesspools are on my list of places to go in the future. D.C.:barf: would have been the exception, but I've got satillite tv so I can catch all the Redskins games in the comfort of my home, and modern technology keeps me in touch w/ the congresscritters. Nope, don't look like I'm going there either. :neener:

Skunkabilly
May 22, 2003, 12:48 PM
In Cali we can have loaded mags as long as they're not in the gun.

I think.

Tee hee! :D

Poodleshooter
May 22, 2003, 01:29 PM
Why's New York State so far down the list? You can't even posess a handgun in that state unless you're a resident. At least some of the other states listed allow travel through or into their state with a handgun cased and locked. Unless there's a competition in NY, your SOL even having a cased and locked handgun. It's as bad as DC for out of staters.

D.W. Drang
May 22, 2003, 01:53 PM
MI's on the list b/c w/out a carry permit, you are extremely limited in your ability to transport a handgun, in your car Explain to me why that makes Michigan worse than California.

treeprof
May 22, 2003, 02:14 PM
I dunno; I've never lived in Cali. But, in the old days, you could only transport a handgun in MI between the place of purchase and your home, to/from a repair facility, or when moving to a new home. For hunting or target practice, you needed either a hunting license or shooting club membership card, and had to be going to/from one of those activities. There was a new law relaxing some of those in 2002, but I don't know the details.

Selfdfenz
May 22, 2003, 02:30 PM
As a southeastern state, NC and their laws seem very unfriendly to OofS CCW holders.
I heard they are trying to change that. Hope they succeed.
S-

redhead
May 23, 2003, 10:17 AM
Skunkabilly wrote:

In Cali we can have loaded mags as long as they're not in the gun.

As I understand it, there's a little more to it than that. The unloaded gun is supposed to be in a locked case (or locked in the trunk of your car, where of course you can't access it if you need it), and a loaded magazine cannot be in the locked case with the gun. If that's incorrect, I'm sure someone will set the record straight.

D.W. Drang
May 23, 2003, 12:57 PM
in the old days, you could only transport a handgun in MI between the place of purchase and your home, to/from a repair facility, or when moving to a new home. Which "Old Days" are these? Or maybe, "WHERE were these 'Old Days'" is the better question.
I grew up in DETROIT, and all I needed to transport a handgun was a handgun, the means to transport it, and a place to transport it to. Fer cryin' out loud, OPEN CARRY was legal! (Get you stared at, but legal.) And a CCW in Detroit was not all that hard to get; they didn't hand them out like Cracker Jack prizes, but they did issue them.
Now, if you were in Ann Arbor...:fire:

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