Compact .45 help


November 17, 2006, 08:58 PM
Ok guys, I am 6'3", 235 lbs, and looking for a compact .45 for CCW. I am a newlywed, and on a budget (who isn't?), so any suggestions would be great. I was looking at a Llama Mini-max on Auction Arms:,%20.45%20ACP,%20Hard%20Chrome%20Finish

Any tips for something in or around that price range?

By the way, I 'm an insurance broker, and I wear slacks, a dress shirt and a tie everyday. So I wanted an IWB holster that is tuckable.

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November 17, 2006, 09:31 PM
Taurus PT145 and PT745 Millennium Pros are among the most concealable .45 autos. Do a search here on either (I own the PT145) and I bet you'll find a lot of mostly positive comments. I understand Llama is out of business, so repairs down the road may be a problem. Also Llama isn't known for it's reliability. I think Taurus has a better reputation.

If you go for either Taurus, make sure it is the Pro model. The earlier non-Pros had frame cracking problems.


November 17, 2006, 09:36 PM
Check out the Bersa Thunder Ultracompact.
I have two of the 9mm UCs and both have been excellent. I paid $350 OTD when my dealer ordered from Davidsons.
Here's a Bersa Forum.

November 17, 2006, 09:38 PM
Llama....YIKES! I reluctantly shoot a buddies 9mm Llama regularily (read: 1000+ rounds through it) and have been coercing him to get something different. We both agree that it is a POS. Are all Llamas garbage? Beats me, but the thing does not exude quality in both appearance and shooting. Other's experience may differ....

I would look at a XD Compact or similar.

.357 magnum
November 17, 2006, 09:45 PM
The Taurus Millennnium Pro PT145 .45 ACP is the way to go. I am sure you can get one at a dealer for around 300-325 new. Lou22 is right. This is an excellent gun. Very reliable and you get a lifetime Warranty. The weight and ease of concealment are great. If this gun would ever need repairs, it is easy to get parts etc. [Taurus makes a great gun it should function great right out of the box] I have thounsands of rounds through my 24/7 Pro's and have never had a jam or problem of any kind. Get the PT145 you will really enjoy it and it is a gun you can depend on.

The best to you and yours!

November 17, 2006, 10:16 PM
I don't think you can get a better sub-compact .45 than the Taurus PT-145 Millenium-PRO until you are ready to spend at least 2X more money.


November 17, 2006, 11:36 PM
Keep your eye out for a used Glock 30, I've bought them for $300 in the past. Realistically, you'll be looking at around $400 for a really good deal on a 30.


November 18, 2006, 12:25 AM
PT145 is a good suggestion, that's not too much more than the LLAMA(!?), but is good quality.

Not too much more you could go G36. Slightly more barrel (3 3/4" vs 3"), but smaller in other dimensions, sacrificing 3 rounds to the pt145.

B/t those two, depends on if you want a da/sa with manual safety and internal lock (taurus), or consistent "safe-action" of the glock with no manual safeties or internal lokc. G30, G36, pt145 all good moves. I personally can't recommend a Kahr (after pm9), but if you don't want to shoot it alot, you don't get any smaller/lighter than the P45; 6+1 .45acp ~1" thin. consistent trigger, no safeties.

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