Question about Golden Sabres


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silent knight
November 18, 2006, 01:27 PM
What's the difference between Golden Sabers and Golder Sabers Bonded?

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CZ57
November 18, 2006, 02:04 PM
The core of the Golden Saber is not electrochemically bonded to the jacket as it is with the newer bonded version. There were instances of core seperation in the early stages of Golden Saber production. That has long since been solved. I've been using them for years and it is my favorite bullet for defense loads. They penetrate as deep as any JHP bullet of same weight, while offering expansion few can match. Operating pressure of a brass jacketed Golden Saber handload will be lower than a copper jacketed bullet. Bulletshank is shorter and brass offers slightly less resistance in the bore vs copper jacketed. The different diameters of the nose and driving band locks the core into place with the "standard" Golden Saber. I haven't seen the bonded bullet offered to reloaders as yet. Not in bulk quantity, anyway;)

silent knight
November 18, 2006, 02:53 PM
Wow.. i had to read that TWICE :)

So in plain english, the bonded one is better?

Chuck R.
November 18, 2006, 05:33 PM
So in plain english, the bonded one is better?

In theory, yes, but it would be a small, very small difference in practical use. From the Remington Law Enforcement Website:

Golden Saber HPJ Bonded
The streets have never been tougher. Your job has never been more demanding or more dangerous. That's why we're now offering law enforcement the ultimate in handgun ammunition.
Golden Saber Bonded is the ultimate extension of our revolutionary Golden Saber HPJ bullet concept. Through an exclusive Remington process, the lead core is hot-bonded to the brass jacket. The result is exceptional weight retention - up to 97% when fire through automobile glass - while maintaining phenomenal terminal performance when shot through heavy clothing or into bare gelatin. And the bonding process does not cause a reduction in accuracy performance - jacket and core concentricity and resulting gyroscopic balance has been maintained to deliver match-grade accuracy.

I reload the standard Golden Saber bullets loaded to factory MV and OAL for practice, and use the factory Bonded Golden Sabers for CCW and HD. The GS Bullets are fairly reasonable when purchased in bulk, but the factory bonded loads are a bit pricey.

Chuck

CZ57
November 18, 2006, 09:13 PM
In plain English, there's the real difference: autoglass penetration. All the rage these days for LE.;)

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