Condition One Carry Questions


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mountaindrew
November 20, 2006, 01:11 PM
I have just purchaced a hi-power clone, and once I am convinced of reliability I want to learn to carry in in condition one. I have always carried revolvers or DAO autos, so I need a Primer on Cocked and Locked Carry. If there is a great website or article, please point it out to me. If you want to recomend a book, I will consider it.

I am most interested in actual deplowment tactics, special carry consideration, and training techniques.

Thanks, drew.

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Whirlwind06
November 20, 2006, 01:40 PM
I would say the first thing to do is to, is carry it unloaded cocked and locked around your house for a few days. This will help convince yourself that the safety won't come off by it's self. If it does you have a holster or thumb safety problem.

Next you need to train yourself to draw and disengage the safety. Again with it unloaded. And keep your finger off the trigger! Until you are ready to fire. You will not longer have a long trigger pull to help prevent a AD/ND.

Just my thoughts.

threefeathers
November 20, 2006, 01:47 PM
I had my carry HP converted to the SFS system. It is fast, reliable and very safe.

kokapelli
November 20, 2006, 02:01 PM
What is the "SFS system"?

dao
November 20, 2006, 02:12 PM
"SFS" system allowed you to carry the gun uncocked and loaded, the security lever being engaged. When disengaging the security lever, the hammer is cocked and you can shoot instantanly.
To uncocked, you simply have to push the hammer ! Security lever go automaticaly on.
HP + SFS : a winning combinaison !

http://www.cylinder-slide.com/sfs.shtml

kokapelli
November 20, 2006, 02:17 PM
dao, That's interesting.

Did you install it yourself and how much does it cost?
thanks.

Ala Dan
November 20, 2006, 02:19 PM
The Tactical Pistol * by Gabe Suarez

Covers all aspects of gun handling for civilians, as well as LEO's~!

*FootNote: available from Palladin Press

jon_in_wv
November 20, 2006, 02:23 PM
I have and FEG PJK-9HP and its one of my favorite carry guns. I carry it in a nylon IWB holster and the thumbreak goes between the hammer and the firing pin. If the hammer fell it wouldn't discharge anyhow. It never has fallen though and I have switched to a different holster since then. I also have a Star BM I will carry now and then and have in the past carried a 1911. Honestly, I'm more paranoid about my KT P-11 because it has no safety. My single action guns are all on "safe" when I reholster.

jaydubya
November 20, 2006, 03:14 PM
+1 on having your HP converted to SFS with the Cylinder & Slide kit. I found its installation to be beyond me, so had a gunsmith do it. Not only can you carry the weapon with the hammer down, you bring it into action exactly the same as with a Condition One single action pistol. As you draw, your thumb sweeps the hammer release just as if it were a safety, and the hammer cocks. This system is infinitely safer than Condition One. Another advantage: an SFS HP becomes much easier to field strip. Just cock the hammer, push/pull the slide release out, and ease the slide forward off the frame.
Cordially, Jack

Mad Magyar
November 20, 2006, 03:42 PM
"SFS" system allowed you to carry the gun uncocked and loaded, the security lever being engaged. When disengaging the security lever, the hammer is cocked and you can shoot instantanly."

Or, purchase a Daewoo in "Fast-Action" for the same results.....:) This gives your 1st & subsequent shots in SA mode.....

mountaindrew
November 20, 2006, 05:43 PM
Sold the Daiwoo last year.:rolleyes: good gun, but i never really warmed up to it.
As for the SFS, I would like to do that eventually, but the price is prohibitive.
at $170 for the kit, my $230 "bargain" HP becomes (in my mind) a rather pricey $400 gun. Just cant afford it.

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