[cuchulainn]

Uh-huh. :rolleyes:

from UPI

http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030521-020348-6572rNRA disputes assault weapons demonstration

From the National Desk
Published 5/21/2003 2:51 PM

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla., May 21 (UPI) -- The Broward County Sheriff's Office in south Florida said Wednesday deputies did not intend to mislead anyone during a televised weapons demonstration focusing on next year's expiration of the assault weapons ban.

The National Rifle Association accused the department of presenting a demonstration last week that exaggerated the firepower of assault weapons.

"Either it was deliberate of there was a complete lack of understanding of the entire issue as it relates to the legislation in Congress," said NRA Vice President Wayne LaPierre.

"It was never our intent to mislead anybody. It looked to me like the cameraman was aiming at the wrong target," Broward County Sheriff's spokesman Jim Leljedal said Wednesday.

The 1994 ban on 19 types of firearms will sunset next year unless Congress acts to extend it.

Gun-control supporters want it extended and broadened, but the NRA and its supporters want an end to it because they say it is pointless.

CNN broadcast a report last Thursday of a demonstration that intended to show the difference between assault weapons and conventional firearms.

A sheriff's deputy fired an assault weapon into a cinder block causing heavy damage. Then when he fired a legal weapon, it produced no damage.

The problem was that the deputy had switched targets and was firing into the ground.

A CNN spokesman said when CNN personnel figured out the demonstration was confusing, they told viewers about it.

LaPierre has appeared on CNN to discuss the report, and the NRA issued a statement decrying the demonstration.

Leljedal said though Sheriff Ken Jenne favors extending the ban, neither he nor anyone else in the department had any intention of misinforming the audience.

"They (CNN) wanted to talk about it, so we did, and on very short notice we got some guns out and we did some demonstrations for them," Leljedal said.

He said the cameraman focused on the concrete blocks, and "I thought someone was shooting at a mannequin and others were shooting at the ground."


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[SDC]

Sure, yeah, sure, that's the ticket...

[Waitone]

A sheriff's deputy fired an assault weapon into a cinder block causing heavy damage. Then when he fired a legal weapon, it produced no damage.

The problem was that the deputy had switched targets and was firing into the ground.and "It was never our intent to mislead anybody. It looked to me like the cameraman was aiming at the wrong target," Broward County Sheriff's spokesman Jim Leljedal said Wednesday.And from the people who brought you "Operation Tailwind" we now have "Operation CYA".

The original lie was obvious to anyone paying attention. Now the LE types create another lie by blaming the camera man. Pathetic, infantile, laughable, and thoroughly enjoyable.

[clange]

Shooting into the ground? What a joke. :mad:

[rock jock]

Better demonstration:
Pre-ban AR shooting .223 vs. bolt-action deer rifle shooting .458 Win Mag

Possible targets:
Overripe watermelon, gallon jug of water, decaying head of a social worker.

[Frohickey]

Maybe CNN would like to do an indepth interview and demonstration.

I would gladly help out in gun and ammunition choices, as well as target choices and extraction of the bullet from the target.

Also, help out in some scenarios where an assault weapon would be mandated for lawful uses.

[El Tejon]

FILTHY LIARS!

I call for immediate media control. Anyone desiring to subscribe to CNN pass a background check, submit 7 copies of fingerprints and a photograph, pay a $200 tax, and have their subscription approved by their local chief of police.

[Standing Wolf]

El Tejon:

You left out the cooling off period, as well as the one Clinton News Network show per month restriction. Time to close those loop holes, you know?

[Hutch]

The black-hearted, motherless... turnip-heads. Caught lying, they whine their pitiful excuses. How positively Bellisle-esque!!!

[jmbg29]

Broward Co. Sheriff Dept. claims camera filmed "wrong target" (CNN AWB fiasco)

Those cameras seem to have a mind of their own, don't they?

:rolleyes: :scrutiny: :uhoh: :barf: :fire: :cuss: :banghead:

[Leatherneck]

the deputy had switched targets and was firing into the ground.
The ground? His target was the ground?

Note to Broward County: Don't compound your stupidity by imputing to us the same trait. :rolleyes:

TC
TFL Survivor

[JPM63US]

This whole thing reminds me of the rigged pick-up truck fires a few years ago. You would think that would have put some fear into the media, but they seem to have forgotten.

Who watches the media?
JPM

[HankB]

Like Leatherneck said:...the deputy had switched targets and was firing into the ground. So it's the cameraman's fault he was filiming a cinder block target and not the ground? :barf:

These people are so driven by ideology they can't even see how transparently stupid their lies are.

Of course, deceit is not unique to CNN The same network (NBC) that brought us exploding pickups also had Tom Brokaw talking about the Clinton AWB in 1994, mentioning semi-automatic firearms while running a tape of a machine gun being fired. NBC responded to complaints by acknowledging the error and claiming there was no intent to deceive, but they didn't issue a correction, and a couple of weeks later Brokaw did it again.

[Don Gwinn]

Rule Number One:

Never allow your lens to cover anything you are not willing to let the American people find out about.



The guy is just trying to follow one of CNNs Four Rules!

[Mute]

Oh? And how do they explain a full auto AK47 which has nothing to do with the AWB one way or the other?

There are lies, damn lies and Broward County Sheriffs.

[general]

Those cameras seem to have a mind of their own, don't they?
If they do - they are the only things there that do!
Use a lie to cover a lie. How original. - Oh wait, they do that all the time.... how quaint.
Lie to the general population to advance liberal/socialist policy. They are propagandists!:cuss: :fire:

[geegee]

LaPierre has appeared on CNN to discuss the report, and the NRA issued a statement decrying the demonstration.
I'm an NRA member who has not been overjoyed at LaPierre from time to time, but he saw this big steaming pile and stuck CNN's nose in it but good. :D

Almost makes me want to send a contribution next time one of the monthly "surveys" comes around, subtly hinting at a contribution. geegee

[MAKOwner]

Oh? And how do they explain a full auto AK47 which has nothing to do with the AWB one way or the other?


That was my main complaint with that "report". The assclown Sheriff goes off firing a full auto AK saying this is the banned weapon, and this is what will be "back on the streets" if the ban is lifted. Doesn't get anymore deceitful than that, or perhaps the dumbass Sheriff just really has no clue what the law does? Either way he's a jackass and in no way qualified to err, give ...cough*stage*cough... firearm demonstrations.

[c_yeager]

The thing that burns me about this thing is that not only was the guy lying but, the whole demonstration was clearly meant to be a deception in the first place. I mean as a police officer this guy KNOWS that any two weapons firing the same amunition will do the same damage regardless of the platform. So the only way his demonstration makes any sense at all is if he intended it to be a farce in the first place. Done correctly all this demostration would do is bolster the heck out of our side. Not only did the guy lie but, it was a premeditated and orchestrated lie.

[Byron Quick]

I mean as a police officer this guy KNOWS that any two weapons firing the same amunition will do the same damage regardless of the platform.

The cops you know must be knowledgeable than the average. I've had several cops want to safe my weapons over the years during traffic stops. I've yet to see one who knew how to handle a 1911 cocked and locked, an AR 15, or a M1 Garand.

[Hkmp5sd]

Nothing new. Back during the first AW ban fights, they filmed someone shooting a watermelon with a .223 AR. Didn't budge. Nice clean little hole. They had the cop shot it with a 9mm hollowpoint and used that as the result for the news report.

[winwun]

Sounds to me like the Broward County CLEO intentionally created a false and misleading situation in order to create false and misleading statements. Any laws broken here ? ?

Why was he not arrested and charged ? ?

[Hal]

<snip>during traffic stops. I've yet to see one who knew how to handle a 1911 cocked and locked, an AR 15, or a M1 Garand. Son,,, we gots to have a long talk about the neigborhood you live in if you carry an M1 Garand in the car :D

As for the topic,,,,sound like a match to me,,CNN and BCSD. One lies, the swears to it.:barf:

[TheOtherOne]

A CNN spokesman said when CNN personnel figured out the demonstration was confusing, they told viewers about it.That is my favorite part. Their news story was "confusing", they just had to unconfuse us poor uneducated folk... that's all... no lies from them, no deception, no big deal.

:rolleyes:

[Teufelhunden]

More on the same from the Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20030519-110144-7123r.htm). Better article IMO.

-Teuf