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tango3065
November 20, 2006, 08:04 PM
Will they ever produce a handgun with a manual safety in your opinion?

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HorseSoldier
November 20, 2006, 08:12 PM
They were working on a version with one for the Joint Combat Pistol program. Supposedly the rumor is that they'll be releasing that version to the public sometime soon.

Skywarp
November 20, 2006, 08:13 PM
I think so but I hope not.


Complicates guns.

ugaarguy
November 20, 2006, 08:54 PM
What HorseSoldier said. Adding a manual safety is a small R&D price for the potential of a gov't contract and the civillian sales to folks that have to have the military type pistol. There are also some folks who just want a manual safety and won't otherwise buy a Glock. Bottom line: If the market, be it Gov't or Civillian generates enough demand, they'll supply it.

10-Ring
November 20, 2006, 08:58 PM
They will if & when they pursue other gov't contracts dictating the need for them.
Like the old addage goes "If it ain't broke, fix it til it is" :evil:

Jim Watson
November 20, 2006, 09:38 PM
Reportedly, they already have, for some foreign contract.

possum
November 20, 2006, 10:22 PM
all i know is, is there is an after market safety that can be instaled. don't know what glock has going on though.

GunNut
November 20, 2006, 10:52 PM
The trend in law enforcement weapons over the past 20 years has been to gun with as few controls as possible. Most/All of the new duty type guns have no safety, for example to S&W M&P, Kimber, SA XD, ect. I really don't see Glock adding one to all of their guns just for the heck of it.

Yes, if the military wants it and is going to buy enough guns and parts, I could see Glock adding it to those guns or that specific model.

If the gun is neat enough and considerably different than there current offerings, even all of us Glock Safety haters will buy one.

Steve

larry_minn
November 20, 2006, 11:34 PM
Glock has a safety. (actually more then one) They are dang near automatic. Just do NOT pull the trigger if you don't want the gun to fire. Has worked for hundreds of THOUSANDS of folks for decades.

1911 guy
November 21, 2006, 05:24 AM
Glock is in business to make money, so if they smell a potential gain by altering their design, they will. That's just smart business. It will likely cause some shooters to have heart palpitations, though. Their new handgun will require them to go through those oh so difficult contortions and complex steps of twitching their thumb. I've never seen marketing to the lowest common denominator a good thing. If Glock would incorporate a manual safety and make their grip angle suitable for more of the human race, I might actually consider buying one. They are reliable, after all.

SouthpawShootr
November 21, 2006, 06:04 PM
From what I've heard, they have it developed and it's pretty much ready for release. Only thing is I believe that military contract was rescinded. They can make it, no skin off my back. I just won't buy it (unless I really like it).

Skpotamus
November 21, 2006, 08:05 PM
Last time I talked to the glock rep at our store, he said they had no plans to release teh safetyies to the general public.

The JMP program was tanked, so we probably won't see anything.

tikka_fan
November 21, 2006, 08:24 PM
Glock made pistols with external safeties for the Tasmanian police (http://www.glockfaq.com/rare.htm#g17s).

http://www.glockfaq.com/images/pics/g17s_left2.jpg

The police commissioner thought the 5.5 lbs trigger pull was too light to rely on a trigger safety.

Those are the only pistols Glock has produced with manual safeties. Glock has sold well over 2 million pistols. So I don't think it's that big a problem.

If you want a manual safety there are many companies that are happy to provide you with one. HK, SIG (new P220 SA), Smith and Wesson etc...

Lone_Gunman
November 21, 2006, 10:17 PM
If you want a manual safety there are many companies that are happy to provide you with one. HK, SIG (new P220 SA), Smith and Wesson etc...

I think that attitude is why some companies go out of business... failing to meet a demand. I don't want a HK or S&W; I want a Glock and I would like one with a manual safety. I love the simplicity and reliability of the Glock. I have shot them enough to be able to manage their trigger very well also.

tikka_fan
November 21, 2006, 11:05 PM
I think that attitude is why some companies go out of business... failing to meet a demand.

I agree with you 100% on that. However, I don't agree that there is a huge demand for manual safeties on Glocks. Glock isn't unique in that respect, SIG Sauer for example.

hankdatank1362
November 21, 2006, 11:42 PM
Sign me up for one in each size (Standard, compact, sub compact) if they would put a freakin manual safety on their guns.

Not that I don't trust myself, but I'm too damned scared I'll blow my thigh off trying to cram a GLOCK into an IWB holster... what if the trigger gets caught on something?

1911 guy
November 22, 2006, 05:19 AM
My biggest reason for not buying a Glock (other than I'm rabid about 1911's) is the lack of a safety. It's not a perfect world and you've got to reholster sometime. With a 1911 I can put my finger outside the guard and my thumb pushing up on the safety. No way for an AD to happen then. There's nothing stopping a jacket, shirt or some such getting in the way and sending one of my little piggies of to the sty in the sky.

shadowalker
November 22, 2006, 11:05 AM
I respect those that want manual safeties but I don't like them, especially for CCW because it is one more thing that takes time in a situation where you likely don't have any. I believe manual safeties can give people a false sense of "safety" and in some cases lead to unsafe practices.

In my experience people handling the Sig with decock only are far more careful than the P90 which has a full manual safety. In Alaska a family friend was demonstrating the safety on his new weapon and nearly shot a friend, it turns out the safety was defective.

If you think you might like a Glock but don't like only having the trigger safety you might also look at an XD, they have a grip "safety" built in and are based on the Glock and Sig, plus the XD has a fully supported chamber.

pablo45
November 22, 2006, 03:12 PM
What about sig ,springfield xd ,s&w sigma series. I think if anyone needs the manual safeties it is these gun's. Glock's are doing fine without them.

tango3065
November 22, 2006, 03:16 PM
I actually prefier decock to a manual safety but that just aint possible with a glock, but they could atleast offer a manual safety option.

dasmi
November 22, 2006, 03:19 PM
I prefer a decocker to a manual safety as well.
I keep my Makarov hammer down, safety off.

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