Need help with a Savage 110


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chaim
May 21, 2003, 08:33 PM
As you can see at the I got a new toy (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23583) thread I got a Savage 110 today. Unfortunately the store apparently had lost the manual and I didn't notice until I left. There isn't much that I really need it for, but I do want to know what kind of scope rings to get. I'd greatly appreciate it if someone familiar with the 110 could tell me what kind of mount to buy. Thanks.

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W.Va.Glassman
May 21, 2003, 08:45 PM
First check the receiver top to see if it already has mount cast in it. What are you going to use it for?A good cheap mount,try Weaver.IF IT HAS IRON SIGHTS YOU MIGHT WANT TO TRY a see-thru mount.

chaim
May 21, 2003, 09:13 PM
Nothing cast in, but it does have four holes drilled in, in pairs that are about an inch apart and the two pairs are a few inches apart. I might put in Weaver mounts but I only have those on .22s. Will that kind of mount take the abuse of the 30-06 recoil? BTW, anyone have any idea what size Allen wrench I'll need?

1911
May 21, 2003, 09:22 PM
scoping the 110 can be trickey.The best counting system I ahve foundis to take two weaver bases and get the reversable rings that weaver sells.

Most scopes dont have enough forward meat to mount conventional rings.Burris also makes some reversablerings in the leopold style it that is what your looking for.

Art Eatman
May 21, 2003, 09:27 PM
:D "And I say unto you, once again," I've been using Weaver rings and bases on my '06s since 1950. I've used the old steel rings as well as aluminum. So far, no problems.

A two-base system, using four screws, has more shear strength agains recoil than a solid base which uses three screws.

The Weaver rings aren't necessarily the prettiest; I give that honor to Conetrol. I have a set of Conetrols on a .243, and I'm quite happy with them. They are more expensive, however.

Art

Detritus
May 21, 2003, 10:48 PM
what model? (we talking an FV or FP heavy barrel gun, or one fo the lighter, hunter styles?)

and if an FP, or other heavy barrel target/vamint/tactical model is it a 2003 model and equipted with the Accu-trigger??

this DOES make a difference,

the Accu-trigger equipted models have a different receiver profile from the others, (think they went to rounded top profile front and rear, instead of round front with flat rear, but possibly i have it backwards.) and therefore the new style guns will NOT accept the mounts from last year!!

if the gun is the newer style, you're pretty much stuck with weaver two-piece mounts, as it will require two "front" mounts. though possibly by now Leupold, or someone else may have made a one-piece, but i doubt it.

if it's the old style receiver, i personally LOVED the one-piece Leupold unit i had on mine, though mine wasn't a 30-06, so no experience with that level of recoil and it's effects

AnklePocket
May 22, 2003, 12:24 AM
I've got a similar rifle (20" 10FP) and went with the Burris Signatures with the plastic inserts and dovetail front and rear. They are specific to the exact model of rifle and the Burris website has a good application chart (note the different numbers for rifles with Accu-Triggers). You can always call Burris to confirm that you got the right model numbers.
This setup works extremely well. I also went with a Kahles 6x42 which seems to be just perfect - easy and nice.

chaim
May 22, 2003, 12:43 AM
what model? (we talking an FV or FP heavy barrel gun, or one fo the lighter, hunter styles?) It is one of the lighter hunter styles.

Until now my only bolt rifle was a .22 and my centerfires were rifles that I have no intention of scoping (an SKS, a Win 94 in 30-30 and a Hi-Point carbine if you want to call that a rifle). I now have a better idea of what kinds of mounts are usable (plus I've been looking over the Natchez catalogue). Now what should I be looking for in a scope?

To start with I want to get something halfway decent but I don't want to spend much (maybe $100). Would it be possible to use the .22lr scope (one of the better Tasco rimfire scopes, not the little rimfire/airgun scope) I have on my Rem 581 for a little while and save for something better? What effect would that have on the rimfire scope (i.e. what makes it a "rimfire" scope)? Should I get a cheap centerfire scope ($50 or less) and save for something in the $150-400 range or would something around $100 be a decent starter scope? Should I ignore the cheap scope and go a few months with only the iron sights and save for a $200-400 scope a few months (maybe) from now?

My inclination is to consider the $50 scope for now, but more likely I'll use the irons for a month or so and then I'll probably pick up a scope in the $80-150 range that I'll use for a few years. Then in a few years after I have some experience I will go to a better scope (if I am still using this rifle- I still intend to pick up a CZ and Howa).

Majic
May 22, 2003, 01:28 AM
A rimfire scope will have the parallax setting of 50yd. It also may not stand up to the recoil of a .30-06 for very long.
You might as well forget about getting a cheap scope, just keep saving and get a better quality scope. There's a world of difference between them. Go to the store and try out a cheap model then look thru a quality model.You can shop around for used scopes too. You try to buy the best optics you can for a rifle. No matter how good a rifle shoots, it ain't worth squat if you can't see.

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