[winwun]

Since "coordinating activism" falls within the purview of this forum, perhaps the Administrators could pass on whether or not this is a good idea: If it isn't, please remove the post.

There is no doubt that various abbreviated agencies of the Government regularly scan this and other forums of this nature, so I propose a thread along the lines of, "If I were a terrorist I would. . ."

There are those who would suggest, and perhaps rightly so, that we not give the rascals any more ideas, but if I have learned anything in my 70 plus years, it is that the bad guys are WAY ahead of the rest of us.

I simply think that, rather than use the FBI hotline, it could all be put here in "one big pile".

Art, you seem to be the levelest head around, so what do you think?

[sanchezero]

I dunno. Seems a little like bearbaiting in a thong to me.

:scrutiny:

[tonerguy]

Not a flame, but all my instincts tell me it's not a good idea. Let's not do that.

[Ian]

If I were a terrorist, I would attack public, recognized, symbolic targets. I would thenfunnel money into lobbying to help ensure the passage of Patiot-stlye legislation to "stop terrorism." By doing this, I could destroy America completely. Without individual liberties, America is no different from Iraq.

[Standing Wolf]

If I were a terrorist, I'd vote for representatives of the Democratic (sic) party and contribute to leftist extremist so-called "gun control" causes.

[sm]

Standing Wolfe--Ditto

I would also support the gun control media, hollywood types and contribute to the squashing of responsible truthful reporting.

A populace disarmed, dependent, unable to get the truth, exponentially spreads my reign terror.

I would also allow the alphabet agencies to aid in the weakening of the people...use my terror and their abuse of power to further weaken resistance.

[Malone LaVeigh]

If I were a terrorist, I'd go against world opinion and start a war with an impoverished but stable country surrounded by unstable religious fanatics. I'd signal to the rest of the unstable crackpots out there that actual culpability in terrorism against the US or possession of WMDs is not necessary for the US to invade and occupy their nations. That way, if they were hesitating to support terrorism or thinking about disarming, they would drop that idea right away. I'd make a lot of noise, but drop the ball on rounding up actual terrorists, and divert US military and intelligence resources toward some big, expensive military occupation. Then I'd reneg on my promise to end the occupation as soon as possible, and signal an indefinite occupation. I'd blatantly arrange for a bunch of my business friends and political contributors to be awarded big contracts to profiteer on the invaded country's natural resources, without competitive bidding. And, of course, I'd continue to fund the biggest enemy of all of the nations in that unstable part of the world.

Of course, no terrorist could ever be effective enough to pull all of this stuff off, but I'd try something like that...

[SquirrelNuts]

I would attack smaller, non-symbolic targets, and make every american fear. Like the mail box bombs. You no longer had to fear only if you were in a large city and in an important building. Even Ma and Pa Kettle felt in danger. That would really tear us apart...not being able to trust your neighbor.

Then they would create even more laws about smaller things for CONTROL.

-SquirrelNuts

[faustulus]

Personally I don't think they need any help from us, they are already ahead of the Germans, Russians, Japanese, and British as Malone LaVeigh Ian pointed out. We are losing this war, badly.

[Delmar]

If I were a terrorist, I would post large pictures of a nude Janet Reno grasping a Chauchat. Now, thats REAL terrorism:D

[Thumper]

Ah...the (unprovoked personal attack on another forum member. Tsk, tsk).

All must be well.

:p

[winwun]

Somehow, I thought this thread would either be totally disallowed or taken a bit more seriously.

So I'm wrong for the 187,342nd time.

[boofus]

If I was a terrorist I would pack it all up and go home because committing acts of terror means I would become a criminal. No self respecting terrorist wants to be known as a law breaker right?

This seems to be liberal logic lately. :banghead:

[Greg L]

SquirrelNuts nailed it.

Enough small random acts coupled with a few key events that disrupt the everyday lives of a vast number of people will have the masses bleating that "we need to do something ". The govt will step in to do something to calm the masses (while grabbing more power/solidifying their postitions) and the terrorists will win (by their defination of victory) as the American way of life (as was commonly accepted a few dozen years ago) is gone forever.

Greg

[foghornl]

If I were a terrorist, I would post large pictures of a nude Janet Reno grasping a Chauchat. Now, thats REAL terrorism
Delmar:
After reading that, I took my keyboard and whacked the monitor for showing such evil.....
:neener:

Not too long after 9-11-01, didn't Osama Bin Laden make some comment to the effect of "America will become an unbearable choking Hell, and their gov't will lead them there..."

Don't remember the exact quote, but that is the gist of it, as I recall. If someone has the exact quote, please enlighten me.

[TallPine]

If I were a terrorist ...

... I would take a good look at the lifestyle, opportunities, and freedom in this country compared to the hell-hole that I came from, and think maybe about changing careers ... :)

[Ol' Badger]

If I were...

It would be a exposive device in the food court at the mall on a Saturday! That place is packed and it already has a Sabbaros there.

Then Movie threaters, Fast Food, Wal-Mart ect. You have to make the little people afraid.

Or as the Old Ruskie probverd goes: 40,000 people riot, who cares. 40 million people riot, well then you get their attention!

[Art Eatman]

winwun, when we think of the word "terrorist", we mostly think of the Al Quaida crowd.

Trouble is, there are a lot of nutzoidals who just might pick up an idea from any serious commentary, here, and get to thinking, "Hey, I can do that!" It's not that the action itself is unknown to most of us, or to the Agencies: The idea for it might not have occurred to Mr. Nutzoidal.

Lord knows, the moom pitchers provide enough examples...

Anything any person can do or make will be done or made. Anything made will probably be misused for harm, be it butcher knife or medical laboratory. And most of it has already been discussed at length, somewhere in the media or on the Inet.

Art

[tyme]

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/01/31/gen.binladen.interview/
"I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed," bin Laden said as the U.S. war on terrorism raged in Afghanistan. "The U.S. government will lead the American people in -- and the West in general -- into an unbearable hell and a choking life."

[AZTOY]

If I were a terrorist you guy's would be scared to leave the house:neener:

[Delmar]

foghornl

I think I just terrorized your keyboard:neener:

FWIW, I am not going to put out what a terrorist might do simply because there are enough bird brain reporters, congressmen and retired military "experts" out there stuffing their fool mouths around the microphone doing exactly that.

Do you really want to give these maniac's food for thought??

Why not just print all the tech specs on how to make the latest nuclear suitcase device and then react in shock when some loser detonates one? Not that the bad guys don't have the info already, but I will not make that assumption based on past experience.

[jmbg29]

I would thank Allah everyday for the leftist swine that infest America.

[grampster]

My serious response to the original serious question is that it is time for America and the civilized world to fully come to grips with the fact that there are REALLY bad people in thrall to apostate, demonic, religious fanatics. They hate us, all of us. They want to destroy us, all of us: Christian, Muslim, Jew, White, Brown, Yellow, Red, Black, male female, bald or having a full head of hair; All of us.
There is no shortage of religious fanaticism in this world among all sects of all the various religions. However, Islamist fanatics, mainly Wahabi Muslems are the largest and most organized world wide. Their religion is hatred intolerance and murder in the name of Allah. The Allah of Islam is not the god of Wahabism. Wahabism's god is Hatred, Lies and Murder. It is a lie that they are even Muslim. Al Quaida is mostly Wahabist. You must understand that Wahbism is not a religion per se. It is a sect of evil men that will do anything to stamp out everyone who does not agree with them and live like them and be controled by them. It is difficult for a civilized person to even comprehend this evil psuedo religion as it goes against every human and sprititual sense. Mainstream and Conservative Muslims need to have the courage and support of the secular, and religious world to speak out against these evil men and call for the world to deal with them in the appropriate fashion. If you preach hatred and murder and intolerance of every other type of human other than yourself, you need to live in great peril of being killed yourself.

Therefore, America needs to begin to be proactive in stamping out Wahabism. That can only be done by rounding the critters up and hanging or shooting them. It might take a couple years, but until they are all dead, there will be no peace anywhere in the world. To do so does not put us on the same moral plain! When you act in the name of peace, love, tolerance, helping your fellow man to grasp and hold the dignity that being a human being is granted you can in no way be compared to the evil that you resist. The moral relativism that has been preached worldwide the last 50 years is bearing its fruit; which is causing the civilized world to 2nd guess calling evil what it is, EVIL!

What many folks don't seem to realize, is that evil needs to be dealt with in the most severe way. You can't ignore it, you can't pacify it, you can't change it, you can't live with it, you can't buy it off, you must crush it. There are more of us than there are of them. That means they lose if we have the will to win. As far as defining who these people are, they define themselves with their speech and actions. To equate a moral equivalancy between terrorists and the action the US has taken in Afghanistan and Iraq displays an egregious lack of understanding of evil.
To try and analyze evil and discuss it and rationalize it away by making every excuse why one should not confront it is the height of naivete' and mostly why we are confronted with the danger that evil presents in this day and age.
Rant over!

grampster

[winwun]

Right on, Grampster ! ! !

Seems nowadays that we are afraid of offending some PC crowd or the other. In times past, as you said, we did what was needed.

Where was the Constitution and the Bill of Rights when the Indians were being massacred?

Where was the Constitution and the Bill of Rights when we incarcerated the Japanese during WWII ? ?

We generally do what we want to irregardless of any piece of paper. The above examples would not be done now, but at the time, they were the RIGHT thing to do.

The problem is knowing when to stop and who to put in charge of doing it.

Remember when the Ollie North hearings (Iran-Contra) were going on and it came out that North and Casey were making secret plans for "The Suspension Of Constitutional Liberties" ? ?

Scary. Scary as hell.

[grampster]

Winwun,

Don't misunderstand me, I am a strict constructionist and believe our constitution has been violated with impunity by our elected and appointed officials and I am opposed to that. At the same time I believe evil men who preach hatred, murder and intolerance under the guise of religion need to be exposed for what they are and dealt with. To do so does not violate any constitutional precept about religious freedom. No religion should be free to preach murder, lies, hatred and intolerance as it is indeed no religion at all and by their deeds they are exposed.

Constitutional guarantees do not apply to non citizens living outside our borders, nor do they apply to illegal aliens. I advocate we need to understand that sometimes in the interest of "right" and "goodness" (which are self defining) good men need not stand by, must not stand by and do nothing.

With respect to those who preach hatred, murder and intolerance in the mosques of America, I believe law enforcement should go into those mosques and arrest them for sedition, try them and if found guilty, hang them. Let them be martyrs! But at the same time let it go forth that if you wish to emulate the martyr you will meet the same fate!:fire:

[Shalako]

Grampster,
A liberal would say to you, "But its the Wahabists' world too."
One must be fair and balanced at all costs, even if that includes manipulating the natural distribution of success. To them the only real evil is the theory of Darwin.

"Reverse the wheels of Darwinism, root for the underdog!"

Thats why terrorists are allowed to flourish; because the liberals of the world don't recognize right-or-wrong anymore, that would be judgemental and intolerant. A really healthy diversity to them includes a representative selection of dirtbags and evil-dooers.

That's the real problem.

A way I visualize it is this: there is a community of 10 people. 9 of the people think cannibalism is wrong but 1 doesn't. If the 9 folks in the community are prone to listen to the liberals, they will say having a cannibal in their midst is healthy diversity. Darwinism would indicate that the cannibal should fall by the wayside, preferably with the aid of a 230gr JHP.

(Substitue cannibal with murderer, arsonist, pedophile, terrorist, etc.)

[Partisan Ranger]

I used to ride the D.C. metro to work a lot. I no longer work in D.C. (thank God - socialist nanny state gun-hating hellhole - what's not to love?). Anyway, after 9/11, I realized how pathetically easy it would be to infiltrate the DC metro system with, say, 25 terrorist savages carrying backpacks full of very nasty explosives. 8 am rush hour, 25 roughly simultaneous explosions throughout the system would kill thousands and paralyze the city.

That's unless there are some explosive-detecting devices in the system I don't know about.

The security in the metro system seemed very light, even after 9/11.

[grampster]

Shalako,

I understand Lefties too well. The spouse of one of my best friends is a Lib. I have had to deal with her since about 1965. Last night I came close, for the 13,660th time, to flippin my scotch in her face for giving me her Lib counterpoint to some innocuous comment made by someone. I swear if you held a fork up in front of that woman and said "fork" she would say "no, that's a spoon."

But, as usual, I remembered that the scotch gives me a warm feeling inside and puts a smile on my face. So I sipped it instead of flingin' it.

Your comments are well said and received.

grampster

[sm]

Grampster, thanks ! Oh have a scotch for me...gave it up myself, but you can have mine anytime.

I carry CCW.Why? Bad things happen to good people. I was brought up before 911 and cell phones, we were taught to be responsible --for ourselves, and family.

"Terror", well somewhere the sheepdip got into the gene pool. Gummit gonna take care...etc.

Everybody got upset with "gangs"...ok a form or terror. Hey if one has been responsible for themself and not dependent,maybe the sucess of gangs would have never become what they have--or percieved to be. I mean 'gang" could be a prayer group, poker group, or bowling league.

The negative connotation became re -enforced because people felt helpless, hopeless,and not knowing how or by dumb gummit intervention, not allowed to protect themself.

Nip it in the bud...gangbanger thinks I'm not gonna get "enabled" by instilling fear...or he may see a fellow gangbanger whom woke up dead, and decide...umm dying ain't much of a living.

Anything one thinks up -has been thought up. Anything positive can be made negative.

Nuclear medicine, energy, bomb.

[Combat-wombat]

I have thought what SquirrelNuts thinks for a long time. That would be a good terrorist plot.

[Mike Irwin]

Well, if I were a terrorist, I certainly would NOT act is a suspicious manner.

After all, the sign tells people to call if they see a terrorist acting in a suspicous manner...

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23994