My current load, Federal Tactical HST 124 grain +p (P9HST3) has become a hard find for me to reacquire. The pistol that the replacement load would be for is a Beretta 9000S with 3 1/2" barrel. I am contemplating Speer Gold Dot 115 grain non +p becasue of its ease to acquire and its bonded construction. The relative stats from Speer on the load look like this: from a 4" barrel, 1225 fps & 383 ft-lbs at the muzzle
Since it is a shorter barrel load, I am shying away from the heavier loads since expansion is a concern...on the other hand, penetration is also a concern; with the bonded construction, will a 115 grain Gold Dot penetrate deep enough to do the job I need it to?
BTW: I do not have access to the stuff necessary nor a range that will alllow any type of wetpack or gelatin testing, so please do not tell me to do my own testing...thank you?
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November 23, 2006, 01:04 PM
Speer Gold Dot self defense ammo is top-shelf and will serve you well.. Speer makes 124grn+P short barrel self defense ammo (23611)..Just make sure that your pistol shoots the stuff with no worries prior to cc.. I like the 124grn+p Gold Dots (23617) from Speer and the 147grn+P Gold Dots from Georgia Arms. Don't really care for the 115 grn..
November 23, 2006, 02:05 PM
I, too, subscribe to the heavier bullet theory. It seems like the general population is gaining more and more pounds and I therefore shy away from the 115s. My full size pistol gets 147-gr +Ps but I don't feel bad about 124-gr +P either.
The Gold Dots are impressive and I have heard very little if any problems with them getting excellent expansion and retained weight.
November 24, 2006, 12:19 AM
Gold dot is excellent ammo, and I also believe in the heavier bullets.
Read the data at this site for a more informed decision, go down to part II:
November 24, 2006, 11:10 AM
127 +P+ Rangers in my G19...works fine and hits hard
November 24, 2006, 02:42 PM
The 124 gr +P Gold Dot for short barrels looks pretty good to me.
This is from the stoppingpower.net forum.
10% Ballistic Gelatin Tests for:
Speer 9mm 124 gr +p GDHP Short Barrel