Positive experiences with LE Officers


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winwun
May 22, 2003, 07:55 AM
A while back on the Natchez Trace Parkway, just inside Tennessee, I creamed a large turkey.

Nervous from the incident and talking it over with my wife, my attention was drawn to the mirrors by blue lights.

I assume the officer was employed by the Department of Interior. I don't know, he could have been a local officer.

He told me I was going 20 over. I told him I thought he stopped me for killing one of his turkeys.

He laughed and said he had never heard that excuse before. I told him it was the truth, that I wasn't offering any excuse.

He examined the car, verified my story, checked all my paper work and gave me a short lecture and a warning.

I thanked him and shook hands with him.

He made no mention of my CCP. Perhaps because it wasn't relevant to the situation, I don't know.

It was a first for me, being stopped by LE officers. (except for roadblocks)

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Leatherneck
May 22, 2003, 08:30 AM
I think throughout at least rural America today, the LEOs on the Job realize the hoops we had to jump through to get a permit, and that we represent absolutely no threat to them, and in fact, are mostly supportive of them.
It's some of the boss cops we gots a few differences with. :mad:

TC
TFL Survivor

Henry Bowman
May 22, 2003, 09:14 AM
What make and caliber (model, engine size) did you take that turkey with? :D

winwun
May 23, 2003, 09:32 AM
2003 Camry, V-6. It was a one-thump kill. Lots of blood and turkey poop. His beak gouged the bumper pretty good.

Don Gwinn
May 23, 2003, 10:23 AM
That's a lot less damage than I would have expected. Dad once loaned a 1983 Buick Riviera to a "friend" who wanted to take his son fishing. While towing a boat with the Buick (you MIGHT be a redneck. . . .) he managed to hit a large cow squarely. It was later determined that he was traveling at about 70 mph. The cow was one of three that had broken a fence and were wandering across the road at the time.

From the size of cowpies, you'd never believe the amount of feces inside an average cow. He and his son were fine, but they were liberally covered in cow guts and the contents.

Coronach
May 23, 2003, 10:26 AM
A 2001 Police Interceptor Crown Victoria will do a pretty good number on a Canada Goose, too.

Just FYI.

Mike :uhoh:

Jack T.
May 23, 2003, 11:05 AM
It was a first for me, being stopped by LE officers. (except for roadblocks)

Must be nice. I am gonna have to create a new line item in my budget for speeding tickets. Hard to hide that kind of cash from the wife :mad:

Somebody told me I could avoid those by slowing down, but where's the fun in that?

Battler
May 23, 2003, 02:32 PM
Terry-stop (kind of stop). After midnight after working late, and pulled over to get my mail, 3-4 cops converge on yours truly (while I'm still in car), spotlights on, etc. etc.

Turns out they were looking for a VERY bad mofo who recently tried a violent break/enter. Driving a <my car>. White guy in Jeans. Hoo boy.

Yours truly is carrying a 1911 and armed to the teeth with knives and a shotgun in the trunk.

I played ball, they removed the 1911 (left the knives). Only time they touched me was when I asked "would you like to pat down these pockets, I'd like to put my hands in them as I am freezing".

Went pretty well. I've seen people in BETTER circumstances with LESS weapons have their heads bounced off of their car roofs on Cops :)

"These aren't the droids you're looking for". Ehheh :) Of course, what helped the most was that I wasn't the guy they were really after :)

Funny thing was, when they saw the full-size 1911 the cop asked "you carry much?" When he asked where I'd been, I said : "South <X> Street", to which the cop said: "Oh, I guess that's what THIS is for" :)


What was funny too was that this county sheriffs dept is (allegedly) notorious for rough handling of suspects, yet, given the circumstances where they had to suspect I was highly dangerous they did quite well. I called up the sheriff to compliment them, and heard that the NEXT guy they found called in a complaint.

Go figure. Maybe the "how to deal with police" aspects of gun nut training helped.

TheeBadOne
May 23, 2003, 05:25 PM
Go figure. Maybe the "how to deal with police" aspects of gun nut training helped.
No doubt. Perhaps you should have tried the other route; "I know my rights, I don't have to do nothing. This is harrasment, I'll sue. I'll have your badge!"

Perhaps then you could have posted a thread flaming the cops :D ;)

cordex
May 23, 2003, 05:55 PM
Go figure. Maybe the "how to deal with police" aspects of gun nut training helped.
Darn right it helps.

Already posted these before, but it's been a while.
I've been pulled over twice while carrying and been in the car when another driver was pulled over while we were both packing.

First was a trumped up "Driving Late at Night While Young and Male" charge. 2 cruisers light me up, a friend (driving ahead of me) and I both pull over. One of the cruisers speeds by me and checks out my buddy and makes sure that he wasn't "going to ambush" the police (he just wasn't sure who was being pulled over so he thought he'd play it safe).

As for me, I pull the "Wallet on dash, window down, radio off, dome light on, hands on steering wheel" routine and have a nice chat with the officer about the nebulous reasons for the stop ("Following too closely, weaving inside the lines - didn't cross, just weaving a little bit" .... etc) but I decided it was in my best interest to let it slide. Never mentioned my gun.

No problem. Cordex drives away with a "just had to check to make sure you weren't drinking".

Other time, I was speeding (78 in a 55) on I465. No excuses.
I'm pulled over and follow the same routine. Cop comes to the window and as I dig for my license he asks if I have a gun in the car. I tell him that "Yes, I do, I carry legally." and ask if he wants to see my permit. He shrugs and says "Sure, if you want to show me."
He tells me how much he appreciates how I handled the stop and tells me to slow down. No ticket.

Another time a different friend of mine was pulled over by a deputy sheriff going the other way (very effective radar/laser). We were on our way back from the range. Officer asks if there are any guns in the car (because there was a plastic baggy of reloads next to my foot). Buddy says yes and tells him about the one on his hip and displays his permit. I just sit quietly - decided not to bring up the guns I was carrying or the rifles in the back unless asked. Buddy gets a ticket but no problem with the officers.

Cops hereabout seem to like to say "You leave yours in your holster and I'll leave mine alone too, okay?"

Sounds good to me.

tyme
May 23, 2003, 08:47 PM
My positive cop-related experience recently (in the last couple years) was when they caught a burglar as he left an office building after stealing a laptop and some other stuff. Came up to the office and knocked and was fairly polite about asking us a few questions and giving us info on how the victimized employees could reclaim their property.

Of course, that's more than negated by my experience a couple months ago where a cruiser pulled a u-turn after spotting me jog across a road, and then the officer questioned me unsuccessfully for five minutes. I gather jogging at 0030 is probable cause these days. I hadn't even jaywalked; I'd crossed at an intersection. Of course, the officer was a city cop, but this wasn't in a bad/gang neighborhood.

Never been pulled over while driving. Once when I was parked and out of the car out in the middle of nowhere by a field, a cop decided to make sure I wasn't committing suicide. Nope, was just out messing with a new gps receiver. Very polite all around, but then again it was my first real contact with police in an official capacity.

joeislove
May 24, 2003, 04:19 AM
I've been pulled over far too many times in my life. Gotten ticketed in about half those stops. A lot of times, I've gotten verbal warnings. Why? Who knows? Maybe it's the Jedi mind trick. Maybe it's because I'm polite, and say "yes, sir" and "no,sir" when asked questions. I also smile a lot and I'm completely honest ("Yes, I do realize that I was driving 85 in a 55 back there, sir. I was alone on the road and I wasn't watching the speedometer.").

When they give me a ticket, I don't complain, because they nailed me fair and square. When they don't give me a ticket, I don't complain, either. In either case, I wish them a great day, and go on my way.

It's all my dad's fault anyway. He passed on the lead foot gene to me.

Jim March
May 24, 2003, 05:02 AM
I had at least 20 encounters with SFPD while carrying obvious contraband. None went badly, no confiscations. Only two were a bit rude.

It didn't hurt that the contraband in question were ferrets, which were busy trying to lick people's faces, play with their dogs and in general act like the cute little weasels they are :).

S_O_Laban
May 24, 2003, 06:26 AM
Once was coming home from Iowa on I-35, family (wife, three kids) in the car, cruise set right at 65. Iowa state trooper pulls on the Innerstate in front of me about 5 car lengths up and sets in to driving about 64. Well nobody would pass this guy:D and the traffic is really starting to pile up behind me. This goes on for about 3-4 miles and by now my cruise has caught up with him so I figure " what the heck somebody got to do it" so I pull out and pass him very slowly ( it seemed forever and the wife was busy the whole time telling me "your gonna get a ticket!"). Sure enough as soon as I'm past him and in front of him on come the lights:uhoh: So I pull over and and all the the cars behind me cruise on by and kick it up and notch :D Well he sits behind me for a while and I figure this is not a good sign. Probably filling out the ticket right I figure and the whole time I'm saying " I can't belive I'm going to get a ticket! for one mile over the limit. Well he comes up to the car and first words out of his mouth "on behalf of all the other cars behind you, thanks" I had a hard time not laughing:D He did ask me to be carefull and issued me a warning, and of course the best part, I just looked at my wife and grinned and the kids thought the whole thing was "cool":D

S_O_Laban
May 24, 2003, 06:34 AM
Thought I would add this, I been pulled over or had to deal with state troopers in several states and every time the have treated others and my self with respect and professionalism, they seem to be a cut above many of the city Leos I've delt with. Some of the city guys have been pretty great too though.

Feanaro
May 24, 2003, 06:45 AM
My only experiance with cops doing their thing(a speeding ticket that was wrongfully given but I didn't have the time to fight) had been negative. But I know a station full, nice people. Unlike some places people with authority problems are fired here.

TheeBadOne
May 24, 2003, 11:34 AM
One night while relaxing in the chair watching TV I was startled by loud, urgent rapping on my back door. I jumped up and crept to the door. When I flicked on the outside light I was suprised to see a uniformed sheriff's deputy, and he looked anxious. I opened the door and he pointed behind him as he said; "Your neighbors garage is on fire, you might want to move your car". Sure enough, the garage that borders my driveway (tightly) was smoking heavily. The deputy even helped my hook up my boat, against our better judgement as there were flames now, and I could almost touch them.
What really grabbed me was that this deputy was from the next county over. He had come to town (perhaps for coffee, perhaps for duty) and had seen the smoke from main street by street light, and circled back to check. He was the one who called the fire dept too. As I sit here now I realize that the deputy had made a choice when he knocked on my door. He was out of his jurisdiction and could have been subject to being "beefed" about it, but he didn't hesitate to help. I guess that's why he's a cop. :)

Tamara
May 24, 2003, 12:06 PM
I can't really think of an unpleasant interaction I've ever had with Johnny Law. I'm polite, they're polite. They're doing their job, I... er, am their job. Be nice to the guy and he'll probably be nice to you. Heck, they were even real nice the time they came to my house to pick me up for a bench warrant. (Long story...)

The only time I was even slightly uncomfortable was the time a county mountie pulled me over for riding a little... uh, "zestily" up GA-400. It was cold and windy outside, and so he invited me to sit in the back of his cruiser while he checked my bona fides. I was already sitting in the back of his car when I realized that he might've liked to know about the Tomcat in my jacket pocket, but I figured that sitting in the back of his squad car might not have been the best time to bring it up. :uhoh: Everything came back green, and he let me off with a "Slow down, I don't want to have to scrape you off the street out here someday". Yes officer, no officer, thank you officer, have a nice day officer!

El Tejon
May 24, 2003, 12:24 PM
What cordex sez is correct at least for the attitude here. A favorite saying of a West Lafayette detective with whom I teach a class at a club of mine is "you don't show me yours, I won't show you mine." He says it was a saying of an instructor at the state police academy in Plainfield.

I drive like an 87 year old woman so I have not been pulled over for speeding since I was 16 in '86. I did blow a brand new stoplight a week ago (whole nation is in a "recession" and my city is building stuff--that figures). Zipped right through it Sunday morning on way to gym--so much for any claims for my tacticality/mindset. The city had it installed over weekend and apparently had two scout cars waiting for morons to Tejon through the light.

LPD walks up, shows me that I'm #1 in his heart when he sees who it is, tells me what I did (when he turned on the lights I instinctively looked at my speedometer, then realized I'm driving, I can't be speeding), and then asks me when the next CAS shoot is.

You be cool, and they'll be cool. Remember cops, as a self-defence mechanism, pick up on your vibe. Just watch one of those late night episdoes of "Cops". You can feel the squirrels after just a few stops.

Tamara, bench warrant? Hmmm, argument with the meter maid?:uhoh:

winwun
May 24, 2003, 08:10 PM
My favorite MeterMaid story:

When our daughter was in University, her friend Teresa would, as a matter of course, get a citation for illegal parking every Wednesday morning at 10:00AM outside the Student Center -- class schedules or something -- I dunno. She paid the tickets promptly.

Teresa's old Pinto was on its last legs and she contacted a local garage to see about an engine rebuild and the garage owner told her it would be better to install a good used engine and he would look for one and install it for her.

The garage kept the car for 6 weeks and Teresa rode with our daughter while her Pinto was incapacitated.

She asked me one day, worried as only a young girl can be over dealings with the police, "What am I going to do, they sent a warrant for my arrest for all these tickets that have piled up?"

I looked at the paper they had sent, and it was for unpaid tickets for each Wednesday morning at 10:00am outside the Student Center. -- Slight catch: the Pinto had been in the garage's locked fenced area for cars awaiting repairs on the dates for the unpaid tickets.

Teresa couldn't understand my laughter, until I told her, "Honey, get yourself a lawyer ! I believe you have just became the proud owner of the Knoxville Police Department ! !"

She refused to do anything about it, instead asking, "Do you REALLY think they will drop all this if I explain to them what happened"

Kids -- !

I don't believe I would have thrown away such an opportunity.

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