Officer tasered in testicles by instructor during training--instructor laughs


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devildog45
November 25, 2006, 05:37 PM
http://tasers.wordpress.com/2006/11/25/police-officer-tasered-in-testicles-in-training-accident/

First of all: OOOOOOUCH!! :what:

Now, secondly, the biggest problem I have with this is that after the instructor tased the student (in the balls, mind you :scrutiny: ) he not only laughed at him but was so distracted by the "humor" of the situation that he forgot to turn the Taser off and so the student was REPEATEDLY shocked :mad: .

Now, I know there's LEOs on here, so correct me if I'm wrong but I think that instructor doesn't need to be an instructor anymore, and they probably ought to let the student haul him out back and beat him with a rubber hose or something along those lines--please don't get me wrong, I'm very pro-LE, but I was a Marine (0341, mortarman) and I just think that this is just absolutely unacceptable behavior by an instructor towards a student, am I right??

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Blackfork
November 25, 2006, 06:07 PM
Lee isn't in training now instead of public affairs?

Biker
November 26, 2006, 08:11 AM
Oooohhhh....fried eggs and sausage!:uhoh:

Biker

RyanM
November 26, 2006, 12:47 PM
Given the prongs and needles and barbs and electrodes and pointy things and knives and sharp bits on those Taser things, I'd say it probably wasn't actually in the testicles. Or there'd be some huge medical damage, huger lawsuits, and buckets of blood. Maybe the general vicinity.

bakert
November 26, 2006, 01:53 PM
Well maybe the tasee was a real smartass and since it was a training class, maybe the instructor just decided to give him a more extreme example of what he was teaching.:D

CornCod
November 26, 2006, 02:09 PM
Reminds me of some of the training I recieved back in my days as a probation officer. In order to be given permission to carry pepper spray our bosses insisted that we be given a shot of it full in the face. A nasty experience to be sure. I think my superior at the time enjoyed it much too much. The scum often seem to rise to the top in American society.

I suggest that those who don't know about it should do a web search on the term "Zimbardo Experiment."

tellner
November 26, 2006, 02:39 PM
I've been hosed in the face with special police-only OC. It was very unpleasant but not debilitating. I can see how it would be instructive if you were in a job where it was likely you'd get sprayed. But I'd still be tempted to explore with your boss the possibilities of OC canisters as personal relaxation devices :fire:

1911JMB
November 26, 2006, 04:24 PM
A good lesson can be learned from that video. When you get trained to carry a taser and they go to zap you, if they are going to shoot you with the probes rather than just tape them to your shirt, cover your 2 best friends! Either that or have them shoot you in the back.

shotgunkevin
November 26, 2006, 04:29 PM
In the video, the instructor doing the tasing said it had been three months since his instructor's class, and he'd forgotten about the 12 degree down angle. Well, how often do you need to take a class so you don't fry a dude? :scrutiny:

Vic
November 26, 2006, 05:25 PM
"Well, how often do you need to take a class so you don't fry a dude? "

I don't know...why don't we ask the cop who was "the only qualified person in the room" that shot himself with his "glock"?

Remember this...firearms are like cars, the more miles you travel, the odds of an accident INCREASE! Nobody here can say they have never had an unintentional discharge of a firearm if they've handled them for any amount of time. The trick is to follow the rules and no one will ever get hurt because of it. Oh...proper training?:what:

thunder
November 26, 2006, 05:49 PM
Nobody here can say they have never had an unintentional discharge of a firearm if they've handled them for any amount of time.

With all due respect, I've never had an unintentional (negligent) discharge. My father also has never had a negligent discharge. Nor had my grandfather during his lifetime (who lived with firearms all his life). Now, my grandmother... Don't get me started on her (she once pulled the trigger on a rifle in her kitchen to see if it was loaded... :banghead: ... it blew a hole in her mircowave and on into her wall).

Anyways, negligent discharges are not inevitable, but because we get lazy or distracted they are present.

To keep this on topic, I'm with you devildog (Thank you for your service Sir), a certain amount of respect needs to be present at a training seminar, safety being a major reason. They were dealing with a tool intended to subdue a criminal with whatever means necessary, these means happen to be very painful. Let's take this as a lesson, conduct training with mature men, don't get mixed up with clowns like that.

hso
November 26, 2006, 07:06 PM
I've conducted training for decades and I've got to say that such an amature screw up indicates that the "trainer" needs to be recalibrated. The fact is that mistakes can take place, but the trainers obligation is to control the situation and return things to a safe condition as soon as possible. Instead this gentleman added to the problem.

10-Ring
November 26, 2006, 08:50 PM
As a trainer, I would hope he/she would have enough professionalism to maintain control & safety of every situation. In this situation, it doesn't sound like this trainer did either.

Skeptic
November 26, 2006, 09:32 PM
Glad that wasn't me...

Although from another perspective it could be humorous.

1911JMB
November 27, 2006, 12:29 PM
"I've been hosed in the face with special police-only OC. It was very unpleasant but not debilitating."

I sprayed myself in the face with my civilian grade pepper spray out of a twisted curiosity of what it would do, and also I wanted to know the capabilities of something that I carry to protect myself. But anyway, when I did it I had a cold and wet towel ready to go, and a running shower. It hurt like hell for about a minute until I started washing my face, but it wasn't too bad so long as I didn't try to open my eyes. Opening my eyes was pretty well impossible, but I can see how someone on drugs might be able to have had their eyes open. After about 5-8 minutes of washing off (no way to look at a clock) I was able to open my eyes, and any symptoms of the spray were completely gone in about 15 minutes.

So heres my question, does the Police only kind hurt more or take longer to wash off?

TimboKhan
November 28, 2006, 12:39 PM
Nobody here can say they have never had an unintentional discharge of a firearm if they've handled them for any amount of time.

Um... I have handled guns for most of my 35 years. Conservatively, lets just call it 25 years. No unintentional discharges in that period of time. Not one. I have been on the receiving end of a AD, but I have never actually had one.

Burt Blade
November 30, 2006, 09:37 PM
Sounds like the trainer had a case of Operator Headspace Maladjustment.

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