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SFvet
November 26, 2006, 10:10 PM
I wonder if the 10mm will make a big come back? I think it should lol. The 10mm, is a versatle cartridge that can be loaded to what you want to do. I would love to see a Sig P220 chamberd in 10mm Auto :D

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10-Ring
November 26, 2006, 10:56 PM
Doubt it tho...
I would love to see a USP 10mm w/ inexpensive practice ammo galore! :evil:

Buck Nekkid
November 26, 2006, 11:04 PM
I've found the 10MM that I want, unfortunately the Dan Wesson Razorback is just a bit tooooooo pricey for me...oh well :)

cbsbyte
November 26, 2006, 11:08 PM
It won't happen which is a shame since it is a balisiticly a great round. The .357 Sig was the final nail in the coffin for the 10MM.

Black Snowman
November 26, 2006, 11:31 PM
From a reloaders perspective the 10mm is an awesome round, I've got 2 and looking at buying a MechTech CCU to go with my new G20. There's more support for the 10mm in terms of ammo and accessories than there has been in years past and the Glock still has the G20 in the line up and Tanfoglio keeps making new guns, so it can't be selling too badly.

I'd rather reload a 10mm than deal with a bottlenecked round like the 357 SIG any day, and other than brass the cost to reload between 40 S&W and 10mm is negligible. Still, the more compact guns in 40/357 SIG are handy for concealment and lugging around. But few people seem to complain about the 45s so it's hard to say that it's a major factor.

I think the biggest issue holding back the 10mm is that it's just a powerful round and they're either afraid of the recoil, or afraid of the penetration. Neither of which are valid complaints in my book but it's a very personal subject and I respect other peoples right to fear the mighty 10mm. ;)

SFvet
November 27, 2006, 01:14 AM
Yeah, and even most full house 10mm loadings have the recoil of a hot +P .45 which isnt even that bad lol. I perfer kickback over just alot of snap anyday:cool: I guess some people just have false impressions of the way a firearm recoils. I remember when I taught a friend how to shoot any he used my p220 with 230gr Federal fmjs no prob lol... he even said "this is a .45"? lol

razorburn
November 27, 2006, 01:37 AM
It won't happen which is a shame since it is a balisiticly a great round. The .357 Sig was the final nail in the coffin for the 10MM.

Why do you say that? The 357SIG can't come close to doing some of the things the 10 can.

Shootcraps
November 27, 2006, 07:22 AM
It won't happen which is a shame since it is a balisiticly a great round. The .357 Sig was the final nail in the coffin for the 10MM.

LOL!!!! :p I needed a good laugh this morning. The 357Sig is all but non-existant. It can't even come close to what The Ten can do.

The Ten is making a big comeback. Lots of people are interested in it. This year's Complete Book of the 1911 has three articles about 10MM handguns.

Blacklabman
November 27, 2006, 07:39 AM
Even with the TNHP going to the .357Sig, the chance of finding it at a local gunshop(here) is few and far between. They do not carry(but will order) simply because of the low demand. Prices when you do find some, are higher than the the .45ACP and the 10mm.

It is the same as the GSP and the GAP. There is no demand.

10mm loads both ball and HP' can be found at any local gunstore.
There is also the internet. Double Tap and Georgia Arms comes to mind.
1,000 rounds delivered right to you doorstep, in very nice indeed.
Prices(per box) in the gunshops, are not expensive in any shape form or fashion. They are the same as .45ACP

Dealers are saying there is a renewed interest in 10mm pistols.

I realize these are regional obervations. But it is nice to see the renewed interest in the 10mm.

Will Fennell
November 27, 2006, 09:22 AM
Both of my local gunshops have multiple 10mm loads on the shelf, with prices comparable to everything else. but I buy most of my 10mm from Doubletap online......10mm rules:)

fisi
November 27, 2006, 09:39 AM
perfect timing. i just put a g20 on layaway last week because of all the good press on THR. now crossroads is friday so i'll get mags, brass, set of dies
and a kkm 6" barrel and be good to go............

Rev. DeadCorpse
November 27, 2006, 09:46 AM
I love my Witness in 10mm flavor. Yeah, EAA, but I'm on a shoestring budget here. I can't afford the high dollar toys at this point in my life.

Brass is the biggy with 10mm. Buying off the shelf loads gets pricey real quick. Rolling your own isn't that hard, but try finding brass at a decent price compared to almost any other caliber.

I'd love to see the 10mm make a big comeback.

atblis
November 27, 2006, 11:15 AM
Letting Walmart/LE/Popularity dictate what kind of gun you shoot is pathetic.

10mm brass doesn't really cost anymore than 40.

Probably the next best thing to Norma brass.

http://www.starlinebrass.com/

I believe the price includes shipping

9x19 is $106 per 1000
40 S&W is $115 per 1000
10mm is $124.55 per 1000

Anyways, when it is all said and done, Bullets are the largest cost of reloading (assuming you reload your brass more than once). If you are loading plinking loads, the brass will go for quite a while.

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HGUNHNTR
November 27, 2006, 05:02 PM
I second the USP 10mm, and I will take on in the usp Tact also

UglyGlock
November 27, 2006, 05:35 PM
I'd buy a USP Tact in 10MM.

There is a thread over on 10mmTalk about converting a USP .40 to 10mm, and it sounds like the magazines don't work out quite well.

CZ-100
November 27, 2006, 06:19 PM
I have owned my Cold Delta Elite since 1988, it is a blast to shoot, and I have taken a few Hogs with it.

10mm is a great round.

Greg8098
November 27, 2006, 07:37 PM
I got sucked in to the world of 10mm recently myself. All the stuff about it being so great is well............... VERY TRUE INDEED!!! I absolutely love this round. There is one downside to owning the 10, you soon realize that because of it's versatility you may lose interest in collecting any other handguns in other calibers.

pinotguy
November 27, 2006, 08:07 PM
!0mm Auto is indeed a great pistol round. I think there has been a slight resurgence in the past 2-3 years. To me, the fact that a company like CZ acquired Dan Wesson and not only kept 10's in their 1911 line, but added the RZ about a year later, says something. Another sign is that Fiocchi is offering a 10mm round. They've got to be the absolute last ammo manufacturer I'd expect to make 10mm. Finally, Wilson offers their CQB in 10mm. While I don't believe that's a standard production model, it's interesting that they offer it as an option.

I'd love to see a 10mm revolver - DW or S&W again.

There's also that crazy rumor that Colt may make the Delta Elite again.

Good thread - to my mind, you can never talk enough about 10mm!!

Grayrider
November 28, 2006, 10:40 AM
Reloading really helps, both for cost and for versatility. It is nice to be able to explore the full range of possibilities for the caliber without having to buy ammo from multiple sources. I enjoy loading up some mild, light bullets (still hotter than a 40 can go) for practice; then being able to run more impressive loads for defense. 10mm can truly do it all.

John

usp_fan
November 28, 2006, 10:47 AM
I would love to see a Sig P220 chamberd in 10mm Auto

You know, over on the SIG forum it's common knowledge that everytime a 220 in 10mm is mentioned a kitten dies. I believe SIG has said "no way!" quite a few times. I am however with you on this idea, and I really don't like cats.

--usp_fan

UglyGlock
November 28, 2006, 06:27 PM
it's common knowledge that everytime a 220 in 10mm is mentioned a kitten dies thats because whenever someone thinks of a 220 in 10mm they get so excited that.... well, nevermind.

atblis
November 28, 2006, 06:59 PM
Has anybody evermade an Al framed 10mm?

BigG
November 28, 2006, 08:01 PM
I've got two of the Colt 10mm Autos, one a Gold Cup and the other a Combat Elite. They are definitely cool, but a niche article and probably never going to regain much momentum.

Think about it; you had the 357 Magnum, and then the 44 Magnum came along - a significant improvement, yet something the average enthusiast could actually bring himself to shoot... a few times, at least.

The 454 Casull and later "super handgun ctgs", while even more of a good thing, are just too freaking much to be considered after the first shot by anybody except a real gun crazy (not a bad thing) or a masochist. Let's not mention the price of ammo, either.

The 41 Magnum is an afterthought. A good idea, to be sure, yet there is never any 41 Magnum in stock down at the local hardware or WalMart, so everybody finally gets smart and gets a 44 Magnum for their big bore.

In the auto realm - the 45 ACP in its original Colt 1911A1 gained a fearsome reputation for mayhem - on both sides of the gun. While it spewed death and destruction from its sewer pipe-sized muzzle, it bucked, cut and pinched the hands of the shooter, as well.

The Super 38 was released with a keen understanding of the FBI's needs - shooting in and around automobiles and negligent discharges. While this was in the same 1911A1 package, the 130 grain bullet was fairly innocuous on the giving end, compared to the 230 grain 45 ACP of song and story.

The 200 grain 10mm was back to the horrifying experience of a kicking, bucking, and pinching 1911A1, especially with the abbreviated grip safety tang of the Delta Elite. We are back in the area for gun crazies and masochists, I believe. I'm not sure which category I'm in, but I have two. :p

The 357 SIG is basically a Super 38 that will fit in a 40 S&W sized gun. Not anything to write home about, imho. YMMV, etc.

gandog56
November 28, 2006, 09:42 PM
I've found the 10MM that I want, unfortunately the Dan Wesson Razorback is just a bit tooooooo pricey for me...oh well

I scrimped and saved and just ordered one!:D

Deer Hunter
November 28, 2006, 10:15 PM
I'd love to own a CZ pattern 10mm (EAA) or a Glock 20. The 10mm is an amazing round, quite possibly the true "Do anything" cartridge. I'd rate it right there with the .357 as the "must have" pistol rounds. A wheelgun in .357 and an auto in 10mm, you're set for anything.

crunker
November 28, 2006, 10:58 PM
When I get an AR-15 I will probably be getting an integrally suppressed 10mm upper from www.paladinarmory.com

roscoe
November 29, 2006, 02:07 AM
As I posted in the rifle forum, I think a 10mm compact carbine like the KelTec SUB2000 would be the bees knees. It would give the .357 lever guns a run for their money.

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