Recommend me some powders for military arms


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Koobuh
November 27, 2006, 02:05 AM
I'm gearing up for reloading, and while I have a pretty good idea of what I want to do for everything else, the sheer variety of options in powder is a bit daunting.
I will be reloading the following, more or less in order of volume- also listed are the arms the loads will be used in, and their purpose:

.45 ACP - Ballester-Molina (1911 clone) - plinking/target practice
7.62x39 - AKM rifle - plinking/target practice
7.62x51 NATO - Enfield 2A - target practice
7.62x54R - various Mosin-Nagant rifles - target practice, hunting
8x57 Mauser - Turkish mauser - match target shooting
7.5x55 Swiss - K31 - target practice

I'm almost certain about Accurate 1680 for 7.62x39 and Vihtavuori for some of my Mosin loads, but everything else is up in the air.
I'd like to minimize the amount of powder on hand, so if I can get a strong recommendation for a single powder suitable for at least the full-size rifle rounds, I'm open to medium-to-higher priced powders.

A suggestion for a highly repeatable powder for the Mauser loads (easy to meter, reliable) would be nice.
Oh yes, I'll be shooting jacketed rounds in everything, and mostly very close to standard weights for the respective calibers.

Powders that can be found at GI Joes would be nice, too. :o

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donttellthewife
November 27, 2006, 07:48 AM
This site was very helpful for the 7.5x55
http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting2006/swissreloading1/index.asp
I bet you could work up nice loads for the 7.62x54r, 7.5x55, 8x57, 7.62x51 7.62x39 with IMR 4895. If your useing a progressive press a ball powder may meter better for you, H335 but you may have to go with mag primers. Sounds like your in the northwest, try Bi Mart instead of GI Joes or better yet Sportsmans warehouse. If you can afford it, 8lb kegs are cheaper than buying a 1lb at a time.

db_tanker
November 27, 2006, 07:49 AM
for the 7.62x51 and 7.5 Swiss I would like to suggest these...

for ball powders I like AA 2520. I can use this in both cases and it gives excellent results...as it has been called "Camp Perry powder" in the past, I found out why...that powder coupled with mid-range 308 dia bullets (147-180) can give specatular results.

Extruded powders I tend to go with RL-15 for those two cases...it meters well for a stick powder and again, with the same bullet weights gives excellent results.

Good thing about those two powders is you can use them in your 8x57 AND the x54R ammo.

AND...as long as you start loads off at the basement and work up, I suggest either CCI-200 or WLRM primers...I prefer the Mag primers, though...my preferences.

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Koobuh
November 28, 2006, 02:36 AM
donttellthewife, we JUST got a GI Joes in a local town (Bellingham)... neither Bimart nor Sportsman's Warehouse have branches anywhere near here. Must be an Idaho-east thing, we hardly ever get anything neat on the west side.

I do recall seeing IMR at the store, so I'll give that a closer look.

Metering is somewhat of a worry for me- I haven't done this before and I like to 'do it right the first time' if you know what I mean. From what I understand, stick powders are a bit harder to measure (rather, to dispense from a powder measure) than ball types.

Accurate 2520 looks like an excellent option. If I can get it locally (hazmat is insane) I'll probably get a pound to try it out.

Any suggestions for a reasonably good pistol caliber powder?

db_tanker
November 28, 2006, 11:22 AM
if your wanting ONE do it all pistol caliber powder...

I would have to vote for W231/HP-38....it will come close to duplicating most factory loads with bullets from 185 up to 230 I feel...I am guessing this is for the 45?

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bender
November 28, 2006, 11:23 AM
in my measure, win231 meters the most consistant out of my pistol powders.

edit: doh !! dbtanker beat me by a few seconds....

Koobuh
November 28, 2006, 10:32 PM
db_tanker, yes indeed, I needed a powder suggestion for .45 ACP.

Thank you for your suggestions, I appreciate the help. :)

cracked butt
November 29, 2006, 03:26 AM
I reload for all but the 7.62x39. WW231 for the .45, IMR 4064 for the rest of them.

Clark
November 29, 2006, 11:04 PM
.45 ACP - Ballester-Molina (1911 clone) - plinking/target practice
7.62x39 - AKM rifle - plinking/target practice
7.62x51 NATO - Enfield 2A - target practice
7.62x54R - various Mosin-Nagant rifles - target practice, hunting
8x57 Mauser - Turkish mauser - match target shooting
7.5x55 Swiss - K31 - target practice

I have:
Red Dot, Bullseye, Herter's 164, SR7625, Unique, AA#5, Power Pistol,
HS-6, Blue Dot, 2400, 3N37, 800-X, AA#7, N105, Long Shot, STEEL,
Enforcer, AA#9, N110, H110, W296, LIL'GUN, XMP5744, RL-7, V-133,
IMR30-31, RL-10, W748, H335, RL-12, IMR4895, IMR4895bulk, RL-15, Varget,
IMR4320, H414, IMR4350, RL22, and H4831SC.


I use:
.45 ACP Power Pistol
7.62x39 - H110 [no published loads]
7.62x51 NATO - Enfield 2A - IMR4895
7.62x54R - IMR4895
8x57 Mauser - IMR4895
7.5x55 Swiss - K31 -IMR4895

donttellthewife
November 30, 2006, 09:57 PM
The closest Sportsmans Warehouse is in Federal Way, bit of a drive, but good to remember when traveling down the I-5. My last 8lbs of 4895 cost 112.00. What kind of press and powder measure are you useing, I use dillons stuff, It took a little tweeking but I run 4895 all day now without problems. Oh yea winchester 231 is what I load 45acp meters well burns clean.

Koobuh
December 1, 2006, 05:52 PM
Federal Way is about a 4 hour drive from where I am (nearly at the Canadian border), so while I'll keep it in mind, that will have to be a special event on a loooong road trip.

There are a lot of powders being suggested, so I'll have to ask you guys to explain the qualities of the powder you're putting forward that make it better than other options.

I'll be using an RCBS JR2 single-stage press, with an RCBS powder thrower to get the main charge and Redding powder trickler to bring the charge up to weight.

db_tanker
December 1, 2006, 08:59 PM
2520 is a ball powder...once you get that powder measure to throw the right charge, just check on the scale once every 5 or so rounds...

Same deal with the W-231...ball powders are a good thing when your doing alot of reloading...

don't bring out the trickler unless your using stick powders like RL-15 or the IMR's.


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