What happened question from a new guy?


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DetroitStudent
November 28, 2006, 12:07 AM
So I am on the range a few days ago, with a Sig P220. I shoot 100 rounds, 99 of them are right on. Then I fire 1 round with the gun tilted a bit. The gun fires, and when I press the trigger to fire again, instead of a bang I hear a "click." I remove the magazine and eject the round. Yet the gun's slide will not "slide back+stay there" as per usual. I get some help from another guy on the range, and he has to use the slide release button on the side of the gun to have the slide "stop." It is only after he does this that I can reload and continue firing.

What happened?

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Highland Ranger
November 28, 2006, 12:09 AM
Mag was out of the gun - most pistols slide lock with mag in, not out.

SoCalShooter
November 28, 2006, 12:11 AM
Did you look at the back of the round? Did the hammer imprint? If it did you had a misfire, chamber the round again and it should go bang if not throw it down range at the target. Also the slide did not lock back because there was no bang and no magazine, although with a sig you should be able to shoot upside down or gangsta style without any problems, sounds possibly like a dud and you coincidentally found it on the 100th round.

RNB65
November 28, 2006, 12:12 AM
Sounds like it's working normally. The slide release won't engage the slide with the magazine removed. You have to pull the slide back and manually push up on the release to lock the slide open.

Froggy
November 28, 2006, 12:16 AM
Yet the gun's slide will not "slide back+stay there" as per usual. I get some help from another guy on the range, and he has to use the slide release button on the side of the gun to have the slide "stop." It is only after he does this that I can reload and continue firing.

What happened?

The "follower" inside the magazine (the plate that rides on top of the spring in the mag) is what pushes up on the slide lock and holds the slide in the "open" position when the mag is empty. If you take the mag out, that can't happen.

You don't have to have the slide locked back to reload. Just push the mag in until it latches into position, grab the slide, pull it all the way back, then release it to feed the first round into the chamber.

You can also swap mags with a round left in the chamber. Just drop the old mag, put in the new one (making sure you get it all the way in) and continue to fire as normal.

SoCalShooter
November 28, 2006, 12:20 AM
The gun fires, and when I press the trigger to fire again, instead of a bang I hear a "click." I remove the magazine and eject the round.

Guys he ejected the round after it DID cycle and chambered, no bangy bangy usually means its a dud, if you pulled the trigger with a round in the chamber and it went click and the hammer came down you fired the weapon you just got no bang.

Froggy
November 28, 2006, 01:11 AM
The gun fires, and when I press the trigger to fire again, instead of a bang I hear a "click." I remove the magazine and eject the round.

There is another way to deal with that. Instead of removing the magazine...

- when you hear it "click" like that, slap your hand on the bottom of the mag to make sure it is all the way in;

- pull the slide back to get rid of the (probably) dud round;

- watch as the round ejects to make sure that it does (i.e. is not jammed up in there somehow);

- release the slide so it goes forward and feeds the next round into the chamber, watching to make sure the slide goes all the way forward and doesn't get hung up part way because of a jammed round;

- resume firing.

If you encounter a problem in any of the above steps, or it does not "resume firing," then you can remove the mag, clear the weapon, and inspect to see what is going on... if the situation permits.

rangerruck
November 28, 2006, 02:41 AM
maybe he 'limpwristed' one round?

DC3-CVN-72
November 28, 2006, 08:47 PM
Sounds to me like he had a miss-fire on the on the last round out of 100 and it was the last round in the mag.

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