Hi, i am a proud owner of a Sako .270 Win. I am now searching for a scope for it.
I am looking to use this rifle for all around shooting. Mostly deer and coyotes. i will use it for the occational varmint.
I have a Bushnell Trophy 4-12x ao 40mm for my Volquartsen .22 LR and love it. It is dead accurate and has bright lense. The scope is only 13" and has a FOV of 32' at 4x. I have only used it for target shooting and bunnies.
Is this mag. overkill for my needs?
Should i buy a better quality scope? I am not sure it will handle the recoil and weather wear. Should i move up to the 3200 or 4200 models with rainguard and 1 piece titanium tube?
Any help will be appreciated.
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May 23, 2003, 01:25 AM
for about the same money as a 3200 or 4200 you could have a leupold and not have any doubt about the scope.
part of the appeal of leupold scopes for me is they produce a complete package that is very attractive. the eye relief is outstanding, and the scopes weigh less than anything comparable from another mfgr.
for your purposes, i would go w/ a leupold 6x42. if you like magnification, then set a dollar amt you want to spend. higher dollar = vx-3 (something like a 3.5-10). lower dollar = vx-2 (3-9 or 4-12).
good luck, and enjoy the shopping. there are so many choices at so many different price levels.
May 23, 2003, 01:55 AM
I can't tell you what magnification to get, but if it were my rifle, I'd put a 3x9 40mm on it. As to what brand, since I have experience with Leupold, I can recommend them.
That doesn't mean there aren't other good brands out there. Bushnell 3200 and 4200, as well as Weaver Grand Slam, are scopes I've heard good things about.
May 23, 2003, 02:03 AM
The Leupolds are nice, but you definately pay for them. The Weaver Grand Slams, in my opinion, are at the top of the value scale right now. The 3-10x40 can be had for $240-$250 shipped and work wonderfully for most of the needs you might have with a .270. I have this scope on my 270 and on my 25-06. I'd say the optics are the equal or just below those of the current Leupold VariX III line at about half the price. Certainly better than the VariX II which are still more expensive. But you got such an embarrassingly good deal on the Sako that you could pop for good optics. I used to have a Banner 4-12x on my $200 22 Magnum. While it would do the job on the Sako and could certainly tide you over, I think replacement swivel studs would cost about the same as the Banner scope. :p
www.swfa.com or www.bearbasin.com could hook you up just fine.
And if that guy has a Singer 1911 he wants to trade for my P32 or any British double rifles he'd like to get rid of at $500 a pop, you let me know first, eh? ;)
May 23, 2003, 04:42 AM
I know there are "accepted standards" as to what magnification to use for whatever shooting style, but the bottom line is, how good are your eyes? Do you have trouble judging distances? My good friend and hunting buddy has not so good vision, so I mounted a 6.5 x 20 on his 270 Winchester. Some might say that its way too much, but he has taken white tails as close as 30 yards and has popped vermin out to several hundred. Of course, he is ethical enough to use binoculars for scanning way out there instead of his scope, but it has improved his hit probablility quite a lot. He has learned to use the mil dots for ranging-something he had trouble with on shots over 300 yards or so, and you could not convince him to go with a different setup now.
May 23, 2003, 09:31 AM
I have a .270 and use a 2-7X 'scope on it. It does fine in brush and at distance. I leave on 3X unless I need more or less power.
If you can afford it, I'd advise the Leupold Vari-X III model in 2.5-8X magnification. Other then Leupold, I'd go with Swarovski for a quality 'scope.
Having said that, my Sako .30/06 Classic has a B&L 3200 'scope that's bright and has given no trouble.
If you need more than 8x at the top end of the magnification scale, try getting closer to the animal you're trying to shoot!
May 23, 2003, 10:11 AM
IMO your Sako deserves top-shelf optics.
Leupold or Swarovski. Swarovski offers a line of 1" scopes that are 30-50% less than their traditional 30mm line. And you still get superior optics and durability.
I've mounted a 4-12x 50mm on my .300 Win Mag and have been very pleased. I believe the scope was about $750. Check it out.
May 23, 2003, 11:33 AM
I have several 270 winchesters and have found that my favorite scope for this caliber is a Leupold 3.5X10X50 VariXIII. :D
May 23, 2003, 11:34 AM
IMO, anything larger than a squirrel, a maximum of 9X will do just fine until you're getting out past 300 yards. "Nine is fine" for coyotes and deer on toward the absolute reliable limit of your rifle, as regards a clean kill.
I've never had a light gathering problem with any 40mm objective lense, at early morning or late evening. My Leupold 2x7x32 does fine for night time coyotes and just a flashlight.
The Vari-X IIIs are nice, but I've "made do" quite happily with the Vari-X IIs. I have a 1997 Simmons 44 Mag 3x10 that survives rough rides on jeep trails, as well as various older Weavers.
I dunno. Without worrying about it a whole lot, I'd probably just get a Leupold Vari-X II in 3x9. More than adequate quality, not particularly high in cost.
May 23, 2003, 03:26 PM
Since you're in cold weather country, one of the most important things is fog proof/waterproof. If it doesn't say so, it isn't..
I found out the hard way
As above, a 3x9x40 Leo would be about as good as it gets. I also have B&L's (now Bushnell) in 4000 series and Burris. Burris has brass internal components vs. nylon in Leupold. Zeiss also makes a "value" series that has super nice optics. IIRC maybe 20-25% higher than Leo's. Never tried the Weavers.
Just remember...the reason cheap scopes are cheap is because they're...errr...cheap
I'd advise against see-thru mounts. Sounds good, but if the opening is big enough to actually see thru, it raises the scope too high for good shooting. Besides, if you get a decent scope, you'll never need iron sights. You're better off to get quick detach mounts (Leupold makes good ones)
Get good mounts. Most important...get Butler Creek flip caps and lose the crap ones from the factory. Keeps the glass clean, clear, and protected and they snap open instantly.
You might try e-bay, the "for sale" here or other sites, etc. Sometimes you can get good deals on glass.
May 24, 2003, 07:18 PM
I have a Bausch & Lomb Elite 3000 3-9x40 on my Husqvarna M1950 Hi-power .270.
May 25, 2003, 07:53 AM
Leupold Vari X III, 3.5X10X40 AO. If you want a bit more, go for the 4.5X14X40 AO.
Personally, I put the 4.5X14 on 4 of my rifles. I love that scope.
There are other Leupolds on the remainder of the stock with scopes attached.
August 4, 2007, 09:02 AM
fixed 4x. less to mess with. 3/4 inch groups at 100. 2 inch at 200.