[Justin]

Ok, the ban passed in 1994 has caused us to come up with a system to differentiate between rifles made before the ban, and after the ban. Hence "That AR15 is a pre-ban with the bayonet lug." or "My AR15 cost $300 less because it's a post-ban."

But if the new ban passes, what will we call our (currently) post-ban rifles? After all, the new proposed extension outlaws nearly every single incarnation of the many popular rifles.

Will we have to shift from calling our current rifles post-bans and start calling them pre-bans?

What then becomes of all the rifles with bayonet lugs? Do those become pre-pre-bans? Nothing more than a reminder of the golden age of gun ownership when no one cared how ugly a rifle was?

But differentiating between post-bans, pre-bans, and pre-pre-bans is just an exercise in piling too many syllables and hyphens into a term.

Ok, I've got it, let's try this:

Why don't we all call and get in touch with not only our Senators and Representatives, but also the speaker of the house, and the majority leader and let them know what we think.

Let's kill this thing before it has a chance to see daylight, and we'll never have to worry about dreaming up new terms to differentiate between the firearms that the .gov want us to have and the ones that they don't.

[foghornl]

Homeland Security Tools....:D

Actually, I always felt that my weapons were all Tools to be used for the Security of my Home & Land.

[CZ-75]

Illegal? :barf:

[P12]

Confiscated property?

[Destructo6]

BOHICA Bans.

[Ed Straker]

Sharlene?

:)

[ball3006]

unless we lean on our elected officials to not renew tha AWB....chris3

[Sam Adams]

NFW's. As in "There's NFW that I'm going to turn in anything, ban or no ban." If enough people say that and mean it, no ban will be effective (check out Prohibition). Let's see how Feinswine likes spending 50 billion a year on jails for formerly productive citizens, losing the tax revenue they produced and not being able to spend it on her precious social programs.

Of course, the easier thing to do is to bother your elected employees every month and make sure that the term "ban" as related to guns becomes obsolete. Then we can work on actually repealing some of the other crap on the books, so that we can exercise the same rights that our parents and grandparents took for granted.

[GhostShooter]

I like Sam's idea :evil:

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[geekWithA.45]

Planning to fail, are we?

What say we plan to win one for a change?

If we don't turn it around this time, with the wind and tide in our favor, we might as well pack it in, get lobotomies, and call it a day.

THE AWB MUST DIE The Republic is at stake.

[Zundfolge]

If the new ban passes, what will we call our rifles?

Liberty Tree Refreshment Implements

:fire:

[SquirrelNuts]

"They" would prefer us to call them "baby killers."

-SquirrelNuts

[Frohickey]

Arsenal of Freedom
Tyrant-Buster
Liberty tree blood-letting rifles
Shock-n-Awe, Domestic version.

[Mark Tyson]

I'm with Sam.

I'll bet a lot of you are.

[Nightfall]

Liberty Tree Refreshment Implements

Sounds good to me.

[Carlos]

CARLSLAND HOME DEFENSE WEAPONS

[TechBrute]

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[Tamara]

If the new ban passes, what will we call our rifles?

Loaded.

[TN MadDog]

What if the AWB sunsets? Will there be pre-ban, post-ban (after the sunset) and "ban-era"? If it does sunset, it seems that the firearms produced during the ban will have to be called something besides post-ban. I just hope that they don't call them a poor investment! I like mine and they shoot just fine in any case.

[Kharn]

What if the AWB sunsets? Will there be pre-ban, post-ban (after the sunset) and "ban-era"?

Pre-94: Used
94 to 04: Used & (possibly) Neutered
Post-04: Fully featured and new in the box for dirt cheap.

Kharn

[Blain]

Liberty Tree Refreshment Implements


Amen to that, brother!:evil:

[El Tejon]

Ready.

(Or Angela Lynn, don't ask!):D

[Med 10]

We are gonna lose. I'm not being a pessimist. For gods sake our president is in favor of extending the ban.

I really hope I'm wrong, but If I'm not I'll be right there with Sam Adams.

[tyme]

aimed.

[Sarge]

this hand-wringing exercise had been expended on writing your Congressmen, we might not even have to worry about it.

Stop it.

Straighten up.

Get ahold of yourselves.

Get busy.

[Waitone]

The definition game shifted with the impending sunset of the AWB. Under the AWB the boogie man was the evil "assault weapon." Now that we are considering reupping the AWB or improving it substantially a la Feinstein and Schumer and Lautenburg the boogie man is now "semi-automatic assautl weapon." Way its going shows me any detachable magazine is now demonstration of evil intent so they will be banned // controlled.

The AWB was initially a game of definitions but after 10 years of gorilla dust the likes of FeinsteinSchumerLautenburg are now ready to move toward functionality. Watch carefully any legislation regarding .50 long guns. If the legislation is written around centerfire cartridges it will be clear where they are headed.

Where is all this going? Handguns are evil and controlled. Long guns are being made evil. For now the game is over evil black guns, but make no mistake the change to functionality will target all long guns with a detachable magazine.

That will leave us with bolt-action .22LR as the only politically correct long gun which is exactly what Feinstein has said all along.

[Zundfolge]

If HALF the typing that went into...

this hand-wringing exercise had been expended on writing your Congressmen, we might not even have to worry about it.

Stop it.

Straighten up.

Get ahold of yourselves.

Get busy.

Sarge, I think you do us all a disservice to assume that all we are doing is bitching.

Most of us here are writing congresscritters and senatebums but when the highest Republican in the land says he looks forward to signing a permanent AWB it really makes me wonder if we have a chance in hell of keeping our rights, our guns (and possibly our lives).

[Bruce H]

Traitor crater creator.

[Sarge]

simply trying to make a point. For every 10 people who complain about a problem, there are maybe three who will DO something about it. We need to ALL do something about ANY proposed legislation that further infringes on our second amendment rights.

And...

"but when the highest Republican in the land says he looks forward to signing a permanent AWB it really makes me wonder if we have a chance in hell of keeping our rights, our guns (and possibly our lives)."

Bushbaby is a politician too, and regardless of what he says, what he's really looking forward to is NOT having to make a decision about signing it at all. The way to accomplish that is to put pressure on Congress (the House in this case) to make sure it sunsets, and doesn't get re-introduced. This needs to be done now. We have cleaned house on the anti-gunners in various elections since 1994 has not been lost on these people, and if any of them have forgotten then they need to be reminded.

No disrespect intended, and I'm sorry if it was taken that way. Simply trying to channel some of the energy available here.

[riverdog]

The Republicans know that if the AWB is renewed, permanently, they will have lost part of their core votes. They may win some elements in the middle on a temporary basis, but those are relatively weak, unreliable votes. The gun vote gave Bush Tennessee and even if we don't vote Democrat, I can see a lot of Pro-Gun voters going libertarian or simply not going to the polls. That will hurt both the House and the White House in a big way. A bone-head move such as betraying core-constituents is a great way to lose the election.

Somethin' 'bout dancin' with the one what brung ya...

IMO, YMMV, Nov 2004 ain't that far away...

[Combat-wombat]

in an underground cellar where the gun-grabbers can't find them.