Should I snag this one?


Steve Smith
May 23, 2003, 01:05 PM
Wringing my hands on this one...found a PWA pre-ban (s/n is well below cutoff) 20" A2 all original with bayo lug and flash hider, excellent condition and low round count, plus 6 USGI mags. Owner is asking $1250 obo..think I could snag it for $1150. Should I bite?

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May 23, 2003, 01:35 PM
how does PWA compare quality-wise?
I've seen several ABCs (mostly bushies, some colts, very few armalites) in that price range at shows in Lewiston.


Steve Smith
May 23, 2003, 02:59 PM
I searched for PWA. What I found was right in line with that I'd remembered. The owners say they're some of the best looking and functioning lowers they've ever seen. Maybe I should offer him a Sig 220 and $700 in trade. Before you freak, I only paid $320 for the Sig.

May 23, 2003, 03:09 PM
Do you already have a pre-ban AR,Steve?
Personally I'd pass if I already had one that I could M-4gerize, or otherwise modify, which is the only benefit that I can see to a pre-ban.
But then again, I'm a cheap-??? ;)

Steve Smith
May 23, 2003, 03:12 PM
No, I don't own a pre-ban yet. I have a hankerin for a suppressed .300 Whisper, so I need a pre-ban for that.

Note: Need has no part in this.

May 23, 2003, 04:04 PM
I think I would buy it. If you do and the ban dies like it should, you'll have lost some money, but you'll also be able to celebrate very quietly.:cool: If the ban doesn't die... well I won't go there:fire:

May 24, 2003, 11:46 PM
I'll give you three fifty for the Sig. :)

May 25, 2003, 12:19 AM
If you got the money... BUY IT!!!

We've had discussions back and forth about pre-ban, post-ban, cheaper this, evil features that...

But I am SOOOO happy that I own one pre-ban AR! Every time I think about doing another AR project, I remember all the things I CAN'T do to them that I could do to this one, and all the steps I have to take to make the thing LOOK normal. (say what you want, AR's look WIERD to me with a bare muzzle!)

With all the projects I have on my wish list, I couldn't buy a $1200+ dollar rifle just to get a pre-ban, but if I could, I certainly would! (Well, I guess I COULD, if I sold this FAL I just bought, and added my entire 9mm upper budget along with it, but then all I'd have is a lower :banghead:

Dag-nab Gub-ment :cuss:

Before I hang up... let me share some of the things I've run into this week...

Most of us want lightweight AR's. I want to build a super-light 9mm AR.
An 11.5" barrel with 5.5" flash supressor is noticeably lighter than a 16" barrel. On a 9mm AR, there is NO velocity benefit to a 16" barrel over an 11.5" one, but there is weight savings going the other way... I can't build a post-ban rifle with that configuration, so I can't go as light as I could with a pre-ban.

Pre-ban = more money but less build headaches!

mark mcj
May 26, 2003, 12:16 PM
At $1100 to 1200 I'd jump on it. PWA's are said to be good rifles.
From the prices around here, that's a good deal.

May 26, 2003, 01:02 PM
I've owned a PWA Steve. It was pretty nice. The fit was tight and it it shot wonderfully. It had a 24" bull barrel flattop and I was able to get .5MOA @ 100 with good loads. I'd buy it!

May 26, 2003, 01:09 PM
I'd hit it.:p

Seriously, I've never seen a preban around here for less than 1500. The mags are probably worth another 100-150 on top of that.

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