Ar Vs Ak47


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telewinz
December 24, 2002, 08:46 PM
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Schuey2002
December 24, 2002, 08:51 PM
I voted ... " AK ",just for kicks and giggles. ;)

telewinz
December 24, 2002, 09:00 PM
"Thats my Boy":D

ms1200
December 24, 2002, 09:09 PM
i voted neither.

make mine an m14:cool:

762x51
December 24, 2002, 09:57 PM
Didn't we just have one of these a few posts down? ;)

AR-10
December 24, 2002, 10:17 PM
Hey telewinz,

Do a search!! Not like this hasn't been covered a hundred times here!:rolleyes:


Oh, wait a min...
Never mind.

bastiat
December 25, 2002, 12:12 AM
You really should have included 'FAL' in the choices :D

Steve Smith
December 25, 2002, 12:26 AM
You guys just could not avoid this topic, could you? :rolleyes: Scatterin' yer AR/AK mess all over my deck. Clean it up when yer done playin'.


:p

Gewehr98
December 25, 2002, 01:02 AM
was to buy one of each.

So now I have two of each. Go figure. ;)

Hkmp5sd
December 25, 2002, 01:11 AM
4) BOTH


Same as Gewehr98, who can own just one?

Colt M16A1, Colt AR-15 SP1 and Polytech Legend AK-47 underfolder. :)

Blackhawk
December 25, 2002, 01:15 AM
AR, simply because an M16A1 was the sweetest rifle I've ever had the pleasure of qualifying "Expert" with and ALL the innumerable AK-47 rounds fired at me missed. :D

m.i.sanders
December 25, 2002, 01:15 AM
The mini14 is the ultimate battle rifle. Didn't ya'll realize that? It's hand down better than either the AR or AK. :D

agony
December 25, 2002, 01:21 AM
Gosh, it already feels like home! :D
ahem, voted AR.

PATH
December 25, 2002, 01:23 AM
I'd rather an M14 or a FAL.

Redlg155
December 25, 2002, 01:33 AM
Well...I've had little green tracers flying back at me while sending little red tracers back at them.

I'd say I was equally afraid to get hit with either.

Good SHooting
Red

Blackhawk
December 25, 2002, 01:36 AM
Neither the ARs nor the AKs are battle rifles. They're more like carbines in size but with way more firepower.

JeFF D
December 25, 2002, 07:43 PM
Neither!

Make mine a Garand:D :D :)

PDshooter
December 25, 2002, 07:54 PM
I'll take a AR-15
Just don't drop it in the "MUD":o

telewinz
December 25, 2002, 08:55 PM
I own 2 AR's and and 4 AK's and I still can't decide which is best:D

TheLastBoyScout
December 25, 2002, 10:02 PM
Show me an AK that can hold 3 shot groups in 1 MOA, with easily available ammo (not 5.45) then I MIGHT think about changing. Until then, make mine an AR

cratz2
December 25, 2002, 10:09 PM
Man, neck and neck at 13 each as I voted.

AR for accuracy and AK for cheapness. I've personally found both to be extremely reliable for semi-autos but if my life were on the line, I feel more comfortable with the AR.

Zorro
December 25, 2002, 10:43 PM
AK series, Never failed on me.

The AR-15/M-16 series has failed on me MANY times.

Nothing sours you on a tool like it breaking when you really need it.

762x51
December 25, 2002, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by TheLastBoyScout
Show me an AK that can hold 3 shot groups in 1 MOA, with easily available ammo (not 5.45) then I MIGHT think about changing. Until then, make mine an AR

Sure....no problem.

http://www.robarm.com/images/7.62_VEPR_II_Side.jpg

Click here (http://www.robarm.com/images/762x39mm_Target.jpg) for the proof. ;)

Neo
December 26, 2002, 04:02 AM
I prefer the ergonomics and detachable uppers of the AR.

My first post here.

444
December 26, 2002, 01:09 PM
"AK for cheapness"
Which part is cheap, the ammo or the rifle ? I see this posted a lot and always wondered. I see AKs close in price to the lower end ARs. I haven't bought 7.62x39 ammo in many years so I don't know what it costs, but I am buying Wolf .223 for under $3.00 for a box of twenty. I am well into my second case and have yet to have a malfunction.

I have never been in combat and I think the odds of hitting the powerball are better than my ever being in combat but for my purposes I much prefer the AR. I have owned one AK semi auto and thought it was decent. I wish I still owned it. But I am not willing to spend any AR money on another one. The AR is definiely a much more versitile platform. You can switch uppers at will. You can add accessories such as optics or lights pretty much at will. Accuracy is no comparison. Reliability for me is a non issue. I have never had reliablility problems with either rifle and under the conditions I use the rifles in, I don't expect to. If I had a problem with my AR, I can buy spare parts from thousands of venders and installing them is no problem. But, if I did have a problem I would use the spare parts I already have. I could change out the bolt with my spare in less than a minute easily.

Nothing like a good AR vs. AK thread to start things off right.

seeker_two
December 26, 2002, 03:00 PM
Real rifle: FAL

Poodle-shooter: Steyr AUG

cratz2
December 27, 2002, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by 444
"AK for cheapness"
Which part is cheap, the ammo or the rifle ?

I was refering to the gun itself. Meaning more the various AK variants. Around here, a good condition AK/MAK/SAR-1/-2 are roughly half the price of an AR. Ammo is a draw but I don't shoot Wolf. Both of them are cheap enough to shot that almost everyone should have at least one or the other.

Texas Gunman
December 28, 2002, 01:03 PM
I use to have nightmares, about being in a gun fight & the gun itself malfunction during the shoot out.
So, being a owner of many firearms, I use alot of rifle's & handguns, and made sure they all function perfectly, but that wasnt good enough.
Best designed rifle, is a AK-47, it isnt picky on mags or ammo.
I also use the classic 1911 and Browning H-P.

AR's, are pretty and shoot a .22 bullet, and isnt as reliable, as I
'd like my firearms to be. :p

But for a plinker, all .22's are nice.


TG:D

AZTOY
December 28, 2002, 01:20 PM
AK-47 http://mywebpages.comcast.net/Elbarfo/dedhorse.gif

Dr. J
December 28, 2002, 05:39 PM
both.

CAP
December 28, 2002, 09:45 PM
Already got 1 AR, and want another. Probably should pick up an AK at some point since I already have something in that caliber.

Coffee357
December 28, 2002, 10:09 PM
Voted AK - buying an AR. I think it's a matter of "overall best"
for what? Most of my firearms tend to be combat oriented. The
AR is "neater" and cleaner than Combloc weapons and appeals
to my pride of ownership, but the AK is stout as heck and
very reliable. A gun that can be easily broken or doesn't always
go bang when wanted is not "the best" for a combat enviroment.
The tight tolerances on the AR are just what add to that pride
of ownership thing and just the reason I voted AK.

We do seem to be starting this board off right, don't we! :D

Coffee

armabill
December 28, 2002, 11:05 PM
The AR is so versatile.

J. Parker
December 29, 2002, 12:22 PM
AK-47 hands down. Inexpensive, powerful, fun to shoot, and combat accurate.:)

Art Eatman
December 29, 2002, 12:43 PM
Well, now, Mr. Parker, after 52 years of thutty-ought-sixing, I hesitate to call the AK round "powerful". :D Adequate for some purposes, yeah, but hardly "powerful".

I remember when they first came out with the .223, and the newsies were all oohing and ahhing. None of the silly twits had ever heard of a Swift or Varminter. :)

(Snicker) The best thing to come out of modern military cartridges was necking down the .308 to 6mm and 7mm.

:D, Art

telewinz
December 29, 2002, 01:28 PM
Don't use think "powerful" as it applies to military cartridges has been re-defined in the last 25 years? The latest military ammo both on and off the design boards continue to have less energy but the terminal performance remains pretty much the same. Rifle bullet designs have made great strides just like pistol bullets. Who would have seriously considered the .32 auto a serious self-defense round just 15 years ago? Yet the stats bear out that with the proper bullet (ie Silver Tips, CoreBon) even that mouse caliber can acheive a 60% or better performance rating.

Soap
December 29, 2002, 01:39 PM
Buy one, then buy a copy. Buy 10K rounds of ammo. Train like mad.

J. Parker
December 30, 2002, 12:54 AM
I didn't know we were comparing the '06 to anything in this thread. Sure I'll take the '06 to the 22 or times 39 Rusky but that's not the "poll" as it were.
I'm not a fan of the "22" but I like the times 39 rusky.:D

GhostShooter
December 30, 2002, 09:19 AM
AK I like a rifle that actually goes bang every time.:D :D :D

*GhostShooter puts on his flame proof suit*

http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/2M16.gif

bbutler
April 20, 2006, 03:15 AM
Ill stick with my mini 14 ,sorry for getting off the subject

Don't Tread On Me
April 20, 2006, 04:39 AM
http://mysite.verizon.net/kpsaros/assets/images/AK-poster.jpg

LeonCarr
April 20, 2006, 04:45 AM
Now I know where the "gangsta stance" came from that we see on TV:).

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

High Planes Drifter
April 20, 2006, 09:20 AM
Dont Tread On Me, I laughed my butt off at that.
Why was the poll closed?
BTW, make mine an M1A;)

Don't Tread On Me
April 20, 2006, 03:40 PM
Thanks, I made it myself. I got jealous of all these dudes using photoshop, so I gave it a shot. Not bad for 1st time methinks.

Those photos are from that website that makes fun of the Liberian "freedom fighters"...one photo in that series has a guy wearing the old-style poofy blaze orange life preserver thinking it will provide ballistic protection (I assume)...another guy is trying to shoot an AK prone, but he bumped the floor plate off his AK mag and the entire spring is extended on the ground, but he remains in the ready prone position...

colt.45
April 20, 2006, 05:44 PM
762x51. what is that rifle and where can i find it:D

another vote for the ar-15. voting against it would be like voting against my big brother. dads ar-15 has been to the range with me ever since that first time:rolleyes: it was purchased from my papa too. (he graduated to an m-16 and a colt comando)

Erik Jensen
April 20, 2006, 10:06 PM
wow!! talk about bringing a thread back from the dead!!! this was one of the first threads ever on this forum! first day, IIRC!

American By Blood
April 20, 2006, 10:21 PM
Don't Tread On Me -

Link to that site, please.

Don't Tread On Me
April 21, 2006, 02:29 AM
http://www.hellinahandbasket.net/archives/002718.html

American By Blood
April 21, 2006, 05:34 PM
Wow. Just... wow.

Bartholomew Roberts
April 21, 2006, 06:07 PM
The poll was closed because it timed out. This thread was initially started (as a joke) along with the site in December 2002.

Still 2 Many Choices!?
April 23, 2006, 12:21 PM
Both or neither, wich = a .308:D :evil:. If you've got both, if/when(depending on your beliefs) the AR breaks, you can switch to the AK.

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