How many grains to a pound?


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Route 66
May 24, 2003, 09:11 AM
I'm trying to figure out what my cost is per round by reloading versus buying at Walmart. So how many grains are there to a pound of powder? Thanks for your help.

John

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clown714
May 24, 2003, 09:26 AM
IIRC 7000grns=1lb

clown

GeneS
May 24, 2003, 09:26 AM
7000 grains = 1 lb.

Carlos
May 24, 2003, 03:36 PM
I made a nifty little spreadsheet in Excel. Quick and handy. You want? I email.

Standing Wolf
May 24, 2003, 10:05 PM
I always thought there were 7,000 grains in a pound, but have seen one or two posts on this forum lately with the number 7,040. Now I'm not sure.

P95Carry
May 24, 2003, 10:08 PM
IIRC, fortunately .... the value is same in Troy and Avoirdupois ..... 7,000 ..... about the only reliable commonality.

Mike Irwin
May 25, 2003, 02:41 AM
Avoid droopiness?

Que?

:)

Route 66
May 25, 2003, 09:30 AM
I got the Excel spreadsheet that Carlos mentions (and thanks again Carlos for sending to me). It works great, there is a built-in macro so you can do "what ifs" on component pricing to see what your cost is per round, per 50, etc. One thing it showed me was that I'm not saving much versus WalMart. My needs were to reload and send rounds down range, nothing fancy with the loadings and just save money. However now I'm not saving much at all and then with the time committment it makes even less sense. However buying a box, shooting up and leaving the brass would be almost incomprehensible (paradigm shifts are always difficult for me).

John

P95Carry
May 25, 2003, 01:36 PM
Avoid droopiness? Yep - at all costs Mike!!

And with no help either!:evil: :D

winwun
May 25, 2003, 09:24 PM
Stand up and be counted.
Droop and be eliminated.

Carlos
May 26, 2003, 04:27 PM
John:

You saw the example my spreadsheet was for .45 ACP. I'm saving pretty good money by reloading, with all my calibers. So, I'm assuming your reloading with a single stage press? If so, very labor intensive, but still satisfying hobby. I only use single stage press for rifle calibers now.

I use the Dillon 550B strictly for pistol reloading, but will soon set up for 308. I can crank our 50 rounds in about a cup of coffee's time, so it's worth it to me. I don't really count my time with the Dillon (as it's a hobby, right?), but would with a single stage, where it probably wouldn't be worth my time loading for pistol.

There's great satisfaction in producing your own ammo. :)

Route 66
May 26, 2003, 05:54 PM
Carlos:

Yes you are correct, I'm using a Lyman "Orange Crush" single stage press that I've had for quite some time now. It was my second step into reloading (I started with the Lyman hand press if you remember those) and have stayed with it for a lot of years. I wanted to make shooting enjoyable which also meant affordable and the time spent was considered a part of making it affordable. But as I get older it seems to make less sense to spend the time that I do in that process.

Maybe I should go to the multi-stage press setup. Do you reccomend your Dillon 550B as a next step for me?

John

Carlos
May 27, 2003, 05:54 PM
Yes, I would highly recommend the Dillon550B. You can do rifle and pistol ammo and it really like the hand indexing feature the most.

Route 66
May 27, 2003, 11:43 PM
Maybe my leap into a progressive should be a hint to my wife and daughter for a Dillon 550B as a Father's Day present! Anyway I've not actually seen a progressive at work but from the various posts I've seen it seems to be the only way to go to do high volume reloading.

BTW do you happen to know if the 550 will use any dies? I have two sets of Lee carbide pistol dies that I have been pleased with and I hate the thought of purchasing new sets.

Thanks,

John

:)

P95Carry
May 27, 2003, 11:50 PM
To best of my knowledge ... all dies are 7/8"x 14 (tpi) .. assuming I have remembered correctly!! Main differences will be in ''reach'' and with regard to locking collars.

hps1
May 28, 2003, 12:34 AM
The Dillon is an excellent machine and their excellent "no nonsense warranty" means what it says. Yes, it will use any standard 7/8" die.

I routinely turn out match grade HP rifle ammo as well as 45 ACP on mine and would not take for it!

Regards,
hps

Frohickey
May 28, 2003, 03:28 PM
Not all dies are 7/8" x 14 (tpi).

50BMG isn't. :D

AZ Jeff
May 28, 2003, 03:37 PM
As noted by Frohickey, the only modern dies (those made since about 1970) that are NOT 7/8-14 are 50BMG.

The key here is that EVERYTHING ELSE IS, so getting a Dillon 550 means that just about anybody's dies for just about any caliber should fit.

BTW, Dillon's rifle dies are pretty good, better than most of their competitors. (The pistol dies are just par, but the rifle dies stand out above most of the others in terms of decapper pin strength and ability to remove stuck cases.)

Carlos
May 30, 2003, 08:18 PM
I'm using Lee Carbide dies in my Dillon, no problemo. Good luck on the Father's Day present. Got my fingers crossed for you.

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