Beretta 92FS vs M9


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James NM
December 8, 2006, 05:37 PM
Other than the military designation, can anyone tell me the difference?

CDNN has them for $419 (92F) and $429 (M9). Asked the salesman, but he didn't know either.

Thanks for the help.

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Frandy
December 8, 2006, 07:03 PM
I could be wrong, but is it a three dot sight on the 92FS and white-bar and dot on the M9?

That said, my Italian 92FS from 1990 has two dot.

WarMachine
December 8, 2006, 07:18 PM
All the M9's I have seen have also had the straight dustcover as opposed to the slanted one. They may have all metal parts too , but I am not sure about that one.

okiebuckout
December 8, 2006, 07:23 PM
I know the M9 has a metal guide rod, and My 92FS has a polymer guide rod. There may be other differences, but thats the main difference I see...OH, the M9s I shot in the military did not have any white dot sights at all. We used white out on the front site. Thats what I noticed.
My $.02:rolleyes:

Bergerboy
December 8, 2006, 07:34 PM
*edit - didn't read first

10-Ring
December 8, 2006, 08:31 PM
I was playing w/ a new M9 today & the only difference I noticed was the rail on the M9

.45FMJoe
December 8, 2006, 10:58 PM
The M9 does not have a steel recoil spring rod, it is polymer per the military request. It also has the polymer coated trigger.

The only real differences I'm aware of are the white bar-dot sights on the M9 vs. the white 3-dot on the 92FS and the rollmarks on the frame and slide are different. I always wanted a 92FS but I couldn't stand the novels they insisted on placing on the slide and frame, so I got an M9. :)

The M9A1 has the rail and checkering on the backstrap on the frame.

okiebuckout
December 8, 2006, 11:43 PM
Well, actually all the M9s in our armory. Had metal guide rods. I don't know how you know that the military asked for the polymer ones??? Yes I am also military. At least the artillary battery and engineer battalion I was in used steel guide rods...But then again, I didn't get to look at every M9 our military's wonderful arsenal, so i do not know if everyone is the same. Just my own observation and experience.

.45FMJoe
December 9, 2006, 10:43 AM
They were at one point metal, then supposedly the military requested the polymer, fluted rod be used instead because the metal rods can warp. This was to enhance reliability in sandy adverse conditions. The fluted rods still function when covered in dirt, sand, etc. because the grooves give the dirt a place to go without interfering with the recoil spring's action. Also, with the polymer's "self-lubricating" properties you don't have to oil the rod since oil attracts dirt. This was told to me by a Beretta rep. over the phone, anyway.

Redhat
December 9, 2006, 11:00 AM
.45FMJoe,

I have been working on M9's since '92, and have ywt to ever see the metal recoil spring guide "warp".

Andrew
December 9, 2006, 12:07 PM
I'm with Redhat on this. I was the Division Armorer for the US Army Corp Of Engineers: Gulf Region Division in IRAQ less then a year ago and worked on 100s and 100s of M9s (Thats all GRD Really Issues) I have never see metal recoil spring guide "warp" and I have never see a polymer guide rod used on any M9, new or old in any Army unit I've been with.

James NM
December 11, 2006, 09:09 PM
Thanks for the info folks.

I bought a 92FS Stainless. My first Beretta. It's a nice shooter.

Z_Infidel
December 12, 2006, 10:42 AM
I had an early 92FS, all metal and bar/dot sights. It was a fine shooter and I liked the way it fit my hand, but I sold it to a good friend when I standardized on .45ACP.

gudel
December 12, 2006, 01:27 PM
Are the finish the same?
Some say the 92FS has Bruniton, while the M9 is parkerized.
It's impossible to tell because some schmucks say it is, then hoards of them say no.

I guess I have to see this in person. :D

mljdeckard
December 12, 2006, 07:40 PM
The M9 I qualified (expert) with at Fort Knoz in 1991 was glossy. This may have been because of wear. My little brother went through training there a year ago, and they were falling apart.

The M9s I got new into our arms room in 1992 had metal guide-rods, and three-dot sights. Remember, just because the military pretends everything is specific and standardized doesn't mean they don't change from one contract to another.

USMC Tanker
December 12, 2006, 08:36 PM
All the M9s I've been issued in the Marine Corps have had 3 dot sights, brunitron finish, and metal guide rods.

The M9 I just bought a few months ago has bar and dot sights, brunitron finish, and a plastic fluted guide rod.

Obviously, they've all had the straight dust cover.

All the 92FS' I've seen have 3 dot, slanted dust cover, and a friggin' paragraph stamped on the frame. Super :cuss:

James NM
December 16, 2006, 07:31 PM
The Stainless 92FS I just purchased has RED 3 dot sights and a fluted plastic guide rod.

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