[Taffnevy]

I'm looking into getting one of these pistols. Any input would be appreciated.

I've tried doing a search, but both terms are too short for the search engine to work. If someone can explain how to search for a similar thread, that would be great too.

[Coronach]

My PD uses the M&P40, and thus far it has been very well received. The ergos are good and the gun is reliable. You'd have to compare it with the XD to see which one you like better.

Apparently the M&P trigger is very easy to tweak, so if you are of a mind to tinker, that might be the way to go. I have no idea what the XD trigger is like to work on.

To do a search, hit the SEARCH button and type in yoru criteria. "M&P" will yield a lot of threads about that gun alone if you change the FORUM preference to "Autoloaders". "XD" won't work because the minimum word size is three letters.

If you find THR's internal search to be a pain in the butt (I do), you can go to Google, do Advanced search, and input www.thehighroad.org in the Website link. That will perform a google search on THR only. You could put in XD and M&P and get every thread that mentions both.

Mike

[10-Ring]

After shooting several hundred rounds through a 9mm, 40 S&W & 357 sig XD, I learned not to like it. So, if I had to choose between the 2, I'd go w/ the M&P ;)

[LoadedDrum]

I prefer the XD to the M&P. The M&P reminds me of the Glocks I used to own. The XD is second only to the 24/7 Pro for my favorite polymer pistol.

[Taffnevy]

Conach wrote:"To do a search, hit the SEARCH button and type in yoru criteria. "M&P" will yield a lot of threads about that gun",

Actually, it doesn't yield any. Help please.

[Taffnevy]

That's when I search "titles only" BTW. I'm sure there are a hundred otherwise, but I'm trying to narrow the search.

I'm not looking for people to do my work for me, just clues on searching shortcuts.

[rbernie]

Ergonomically, the M&P is light years ahead.; it is a lot less top heavy and devoid of the angles and edges of the XD, and the replacable backstrap is a truly useful thing.

Mechanically, I've not had an issue with either (but then again, I've not put tens and tens of thousands of rounds thru any one example of either).

All in all - I've sold the XDs and bought three M&Ps.

[sloman]

I had an XD and did not like it at all. Recently I got an M&P and it is great. No FTF's or FTE's! Plus you can customize it to your specific grip with the included palm swells. Plus, S&W's customer service is very good should you have to have it serviced. I love mine!
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j302/tomthepi/MP7Yds.jpg

[Bazooka Joe71]

So you guys are telling me that I have been lusting over an XD45 service that my shop hasn't had for months, and all I had to do was get the M&P?

[Euclidean]

I'm vested in the XD series. I think the M&P might have been what I went with if I wasn't, but I see no reason to be so unhappy with the XD series to switch.

Rather the opposite actually, I'm still liking the XD a lot.

[Taffnevy]

So what I've gathered so far (not only from this thread) is:

-The XD can seem top heavy to some.
-The M&P has better ergos, especially with the grip replacements.
-Both are pretty much on the same level of reliability.
-Customer service from both are about the same.
-The M&P is made in USA, and the XD is made in Croatia (if that matters to you)
-The M&P might be a slightly better design as far as break-down, safety and maintenance are considered.

What else? What are some other pros and cons?

I'm honestly open to all opinions.

[Euclidean]

I wouldn't say the M&P has better ergonomics per se. The whole reason I got into the XD was it felt so darn perfect. There's not another semiauto which is nearly as perfect in the hand as the XD45ACP.

But that's for me, I have catcher's mitts for hands and short sausage fingers.

Reliability probably is a wash.

I wouldn't say the XD takedown is inferior however, lock it open, rotate a lever and pull a trigger, how hard is that?

[revjross]

In all honesty guys this is a personal preference situation. I have a XD in 40 and 45 (I just ordered a 9mm in service model). Back is August I bought a M&P in 9mm. The natural ergonomics (compared to the XD) were not there for me. I couldn't point and shoot it as well as the XD. In fact, I couldn't shoot it as well as the XD period. The M&P is a nice gun, I am glad S&W came out with it ----------- but it doen't work as well as the XD for me. I am a fan of the XD's and SIG's. I shoot them best and they are VERY reliable. I tried to like the M&P better but I couldn't. The best groups I have EVER gotten have been with an XD.

[Plumber576]

I'm sorry. I know looks really dont matter, but...

THe XD looks like the inbred offspring of a glock and a sig that grew up near chernobyl.

Go with the M&P.

[treebeard]

I have had both (I have the compact M&P 9mm now) and I would take the M&P fullsize over the XD9 because of the fit, balance, and trigger. Get the M&P.

[TxPhantom]

Gotta admit I'm a little biased. I'm a big S & W fan. I have a MP 40 caliber full sized that shoots a lot better than I do and I shoot pretty good. I'll be buying the MP Compact soon.:cool:
My 2nd choice of pistols in this price range would be the XD. No doubt it's a great gun.

[.357 magnum]

Which caliber are you going to purchase? I would have to assume it is the .40 or 9mm because the MP is not made in a .45acp If it were .45acp I would recommend the XD. In a .40 or .9mm I would say go with the MP. Now if you are lookng for another excellent choice go Taurus 24/7 Pro. They have superior ergonomics, excellent reliability, polished feed ramp, double recoil spring etc. You can get one for 400 or less [better price then MP] Along with a lifetime repair policy. Take Care!

The Best to you and yours!

Frank

http://www.taurususa.com/video/taurus-corporate-video.cfm

http://www.taurususa.com/products/product-details.cfm?id=106&category=Pistol

[Babalouie]

I've had both in 40 S&W. I wanted the xd for uspsa production class shooting but the take down lever was in the wrong place for my grip...kept jamming against my left thumb. I found the xd to be a bit clunky...in fact it just seemed to get clunkier the longer I owned it. It finally got so clunky and top heavy that I sold it and bought an M&P. I like the M&P better as far as looks and overall balance. In fact the balance is excellent and I think the firearm is rather svelt. I actually liked the grip of the xd better but not enough to be at all dissatisfied with the M&P. I just had a trigger job done on the M&P and the gun really is a great Production class blaster. I'll be buying a compact version this year for sure.
Having said all of that here is the bottom line...both are excellent firearms from topnotch companies. Get the one that most appeals to you...you will not make a bad choice between the two.

[steveracer]

...I'll be buying an M&P as soon as it's available in .45ACP!!!
I sold my XD, and don't miss it. I just shot over 500 rounds through my buddy's M&P 9mm, and LOVE this gun!!
.45 ACP will be all that it needs to get my cash.
Steve

[david_the_greek]

my limited experience points me away from the M&P. I had some trouble with how the material felt. I would grip the gun and it felt "squishy". I dunno maybe thats how its supposed to feel. other than that no problems, it shot well and ran 100% (range rental). No experience with the XD line

[rbernie]

A few more random thoughts:


The M&P in 45ACP is supposedly on the way.
The M&P compact is truly compact in a way that the XD 3" just, well, isn't.
The M&P's replacable backstrap has a HUGE impact with regard to the pointability of the M&P; the medium makes me point left, but either the small or the large bring me dead-on.
I cannot believe how well S&W got 15rds of 40S&W into a grip that is as svelte as the M&P with the small grip backstrap.
I think that the M&P is going to be (note future projection - not reality yet) better supported within the industry than the XD, if only because S&W is clearly targeting the LEO community with the pistol in ways that SA never tried.

[treebeard]

The 24/7 may be a nice semi-auto, but it has a completely different trigger than the XD or the M&P. If you like DA/SA that is fine, but some people may not like it. It is something to consider when purchasing. Myself....I will never ever buy a DA/SA semi-auto again. I have learned to hate DA/SA:barf: :barf: That's just me though and I am weird anyways.

[carterbeauford]

carterbeauford's unscientific and biased opinion:

the XD is top heavy, ugly, and grip safeties belong on 1911s.
the M&P is sleek, the low profile slide and backstraps are nice.

My girlfriend really likes the M&P 9MM. If the M&P .45 is going to be available in a compact version, it is going to make one helluva carry gun, look out Glock 30.

[Coronach]

Actually, it doesn't yield any. Help please.When I type in M&P I get about 2,600 hits. When I go to Advanced Search, limit the search to Autoloaders only, and type in M&P, I get about 200.

I have no idea what is happening on your end.

Mike

[carterbeauford]

Actually, it doesn't yield any. Help please.

try this link:

http://thehighroad.org/search.php?searchid=1830298

[Redneck with a 40]

Wow, looks like the XD really got kicked to the curb in this thread. I've got an XD and I really like it, the ergonomics are perfect for me. Besides the fact that the XD is a good $100 cheaper than the M&P, that matters to guys like myself. When I think of the turds that S&W have put out in the past, think Sigma, I have a hard time warming up to the the M&P or any other S&W auto. Gun Test's recently put the XD45 up against the M&P40 and they chose the XD45.:p

[CPshooter]

I wouldn't exactly hand it over to the M&P. I don't think this pistol offers the consumer anything extraordinary, and i would actually take the XD over the M&P.

The ergos on both guns are great. The M&P grip can be adjusted via interchangeable backstraps, but I haven't come across a single person that didn't think the XD was one of the most comfortable and easy-to-shoot guns on the market. I shot the XD 4" far better than the M&P 4" w/ the same caliber(.40). The trigger sucks on the M&P in my opinion. Maybe it can be adjusted by the user for weight/travel, but it still doesnt have that "straight-back" super stable and comfortable pull of the XD. The XD can also be sent into Springfield for very cheap and get trigger work done to it that will lighten the pull. The XD is advertised to have a pull around 7lbs, yet it feels like 4lbs when shooting it. Sights don't shake and the trigger comes straight back and pops off a round right on target.

Top heavy?? maybe, but i thought it just felt great when i picked it up and pointed it. I shot it much better than the M&P.

Disassembly is also MUCH easier on the XD in my experience...pull slide back,flip easily accessible external lever, release slide and pull trigger. Solid and fast.

The M&P is a bit sleeker and doesn't feel as clunky, but the squarish "clunky" look of the XD is what makes it feel like such a badass, awesome shooting gun in your hand. I don't know but i just like the XD better for every reason there is. I like the cocked firing pin indicator and the loaded chamber indicator on the XD, but one of other two safeties needs to go...either the Glock-style trigger safety or the grip safety. If it was up to me i would take them both off the gun, but if i had to keep one i would keep the trigger safety and ditch the grip safety...having all of them is never a problem though.

[rbernie]

Besides the fact that the XD is a good $100 cheaper than the M&P, that matters to guys like myself. I got my last two M&Ps for $399 plus tax. You can get a new 4" XD for $300? :confused:

[treebeard]

Gun Test's recently put the XD45 up against the M&P40 and they chose the XD45. Kind of an odd test don't you think?

[Coronach]

I think that reliability between the two will be a wash, unless one of them starts to develop problems as the guns age. Trigger and ergonomics will be completely subjective. The M&P gets a slight nod in that one, due to the interchangable backstraps, but if the XD fits your hand and the M&P doesn't, regardless of grip, guess what? The XD wins.

In other words, I think it is six of one and half a dozen of the other. Shoot them both. Buy the one you like better.

Mike

[The Lone Haranguer]

I have tried out a MP9 and a XD40 as rentals. I liked the MP better due to its trigger feel and better-shaped grip with no grip safety. I realize this is subjective and personal preference.

[Redneck with a 40]

rbernie, I dont know where you live, but out here in Colorado Springs, the M&P's are running about $600 NIB, the XD is around $500 NIB.

[The Lone Haranguer]

At the range/shop where I shot them, the MP is $499, the XD $449.

[rbernie]

Here in the DFW area, M&Ps (without night sights) running around $490 in the retail gun shops but $399 at the gun shows from those very same shops. You can also order it from Buds Gun Shop for $399 plus shipping/transfer; that'll come in at $450 out the door for most folks (equal to $400 + tax for us'n Texans).

[Ala Dan]

I prefer the Springfield XD, cuz it comes in my favorite caliber .45 ACP~!:cool: