[BigBlock]

Recently I got my first handgun - an 1898 antique .38 revolver. From what I can tell reading the Oregon statutes, I can legally carry it concealed without a CCW. The OR statutes also say that a replica of an antique has the same legal status as the real thing.

That brings me to my question - does anybody sell a new replica of an antique cartridge gun? I know BP guns are everywhere...but I haven't seen any that use cartridges. My gun still works perfectly, but at well over 100 years old it would probably be better on a shelf...

[mike101]

Uberti makes a ton of them. :)

[Novus Collectus]

Watch out, if the law in Oregon has the same wording as the federal definition in the GCA of 1968 (my state does), then the replica cartridge gun is only an antique if the cartridges are no longer available commercially. (Or something on those lines)

[The Real Hawkeye]

I know that in New York antique handguns are entirely unregistered, and it is legal to possess them without license or registration (unlike regular handguns, which require both a license and registration), HOWEVER, if you load, without first registering it and getting a license to own it, the antique with live ammo, or a charge of powder and ball, it automatically becomes, under NY law, contraband, just like carrying a bag of cocaine, with similar law enforcement response and penalties attached. Make sure your State doesn't have a similar law.

[BigBlock]

Watch out, if the law in Oregon has the same wording as the federal definition in the GCA of 1968 (my state does), then the replica cartridge gun is only an antique if the cartridges are no longer available commercially. (Or something on those lines)

The law says "Uses rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition that is no longer manufactured in the United States and that is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade."

So I should be fine with anything that takes black powder cartridges, shouldn't I? Does anybody still make guns like that? The Uberti guns use modern ammo.

[Novus Collectus]

The law says "Uses rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition that is no longer manufactured in the United States and that is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade."

So I should be fine with anything that takes black powder cartridges, shouldn't I? Does anybody still make guns like that? The Uberti guns use modern ammo. Not technically.
Even though it may be unsafe, a gun that is suppoed to only fire fixed cartridges loaded with BP can fire modern smokeless loads as well.
You might try to argue that angle in court, but most people can't afford the lawyers and risk going to prison if they lose. I am not familiar with any precedence on the issue with the federal law.

If there was an antiques that could fire smokeless powder, but they no longer manufactured and sold the odball cartridge, then the replica of that antique would also be an antique. It has to do with "fixed ammunition" part and not the powder.

I have a replica 1858 Remington revolver that was an "antique" when it was BP, but as long as I have the cartridge conversion cylinder in it shooting .45 Long Colt, it is a handgun under federal and my state's laws. It does not matter that I am only supposed to fire BP strength loads in it.

[Standing Wolf]

Where does it say all that in the Second Amendment?

[Novus Collectus]

Where does it say all that in the Second Amendment?Good point, but who has the money or wants to go years without being able to own their guns while trying to fight it all the way to the Supreme Court?