Opinions on the Glock Experience


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garrettwc
May 25, 2003, 07:52 AM
No flames please.

I am looking for a general survey from people on their overall Glock experience. Please base your comments on your own experience and not something you heard somewhere.

Good or bad. Just the facts.

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NJ3
May 25, 2003, 08:11 AM
I've owned about 6 Glock pistols, all have been reliable.

Richard
May 25, 2003, 08:19 AM
Glocks are good solid performers. If they weren't I wouldn't own four of them. Regards, Richard:D

clown714
May 25, 2003, 08:20 AM
had a G27,sold it.

100%reliable,just not my cup of tea:rolleyes:

clown

LFW
May 25, 2003, 08:33 AM
Owned a 19 and a 26 but sold both. Both were reliable and accurate enough for what they were designed for. I'm neutral on the trigger system. Didn't much like the blocky feel of the handles. Guess I'm too old, and just can't warm up to the idea of a pistol with a plastic frame.--Leigh

BlkHawk73
May 25, 2003, 08:47 AM
Quality guns, just seen enough of them malfunction that I was turned away even more. The idea of not having a second try on a failure to fire was the first turn off.

Sean Smith
May 25, 2003, 09:17 AM
Mostly good, but mixed.

23: Ran great, surprisingly accurate, trigger was almost decent.
35: Crappy. You don't expect an alleged COMPETITION model to have a worse trigger and much worse accuracy than the basic 23!
36: I don't even know why I bought this thing. It never jammed, but wasn't real impressive overall. I swapped out the barrel and the group size decreased to about 1/4 of what it was out of the box!
20C: Last Glock was the best. Really accurate, ran good, and the trigger was about as good as you can expect from a Glock.

That said, I don't own Glocks anymore, and don't plan on it.

Quintin Likely
May 25, 2003, 09:18 AM
I own a 3rd gen G19. Its the second pistol I bought, the first being a Sig P239. Compared side by side, I think I like the Glock better. It sits lower in my hand, muzzleflip is almost nill (poor comparison between the two, since my Glock is a 9mm and the Sig's a .40). I really like the short trigger reset with the Glock. The jury's still out on the magazine release, I'm considering buying an extended release.

Reliablity wise? 100%. It's fed any and everything I've put through it, all sorts of different defensive ammo, surplus NATO FMJ, white box Winchester, any and everything without a hiccup, aside from lead bullets of course.

Only thing that bugs me is in the event of a fail to fire, the slide has to be cycled again to cock the weapon. I guess that's why so many people preach malfunction drills, though.

Overall, I'm very satisfied.

Edward429451
May 25, 2003, 10:04 AM
Average. I own a G21 and used to own a G23. No failures with factory ammo in any way, ever. The Glocks are ammo sensitive when it comes to reloads though, which is what I shoot most and why the nod would have to go to the 1911 platforms if I were reduced to one type. One just never knows what one will have to be reliing on for ammo in the future...

Glocks are not perfection, yet still pretty darn good.

SodaPop
May 25, 2003, 10:38 AM
Sig

Glock

Beretta


No difference in reliability.

Carnitas
May 25, 2003, 10:49 AM
The VAST majority will function flawlessly and shoot to point of aim out of the box. If I had to defend my life with a brand new right out of the box, never been shot, nevery been cleaned or inspected, or tested with this or that kind of ammo, HG it would be a glock.

It seems that both beginners and expierenced shooters can do very well with the glock system; although I would concede that at the _Highest_ levels of competetion and tactical training a high-end 1911 style guns might offer an edge in utility.

The glocks are very tolerant of abuse and missuse, and require minimal (no?) care to continue functioning.

The biggest down side I see is that they are too thick for optimal carry and are not well suited to shooters with smaller hands, or those that are inclined to let a mechanical safety make up for their poor gun handling. Also, I think that for open carry the lack of a manual safety is a significant negative.

Soap
May 25, 2003, 11:08 AM
I'm a pretty die hard 1911 fan but if there is a #2 in my heart it is definitely the Glock series of pistols. I've never had a failure with one, yet. They're easy to shoot, solid, reliable, etc.

MikeD29
May 25, 2003, 11:15 AM
I have a G29, my first Glock. May add a G20 down the road. I have had 0 problems with it. I trust my life with it. It may seem a bit blocky for some, but my hands are big and find it comfortable to shoot.

My only complaint is the trigger, I dislike the take up in it. I may have someone work on it in the future.

I have shot some friends Glocks and find the G23 very comfortable in my hands.

Peetmoss
May 25, 2003, 11:22 AM
I own a Gen2 G19 and like it alot. I have never had a malfunction that was the guns fault. To clarrify this. I have installed an extend mag release and while working on new ways to hold it I have occasianally released the mag while shooting.

My only complaint about the gun is that no matter how many times I explain the function of the gun and tell a new person trying it out at the range the slide still bites them. Again not the guns fault.

Cruiser
May 25, 2003, 12:08 PM
I've used Gen1 G17 & G19, Gen3 G21 & G23, & my wife uses Gen3 G22. All are excellent handguns; I would recommend them to anyone. Glocks have never felt good in my hand; I prefer 1911's, but I can't say anything bad about Glock.

Hkmp5sd
May 25, 2003, 12:28 PM
Same as buying a car or anything else. The gun functions as designed. Occassionally you will see a lemon. If the gun has the features and meets your needs equal or better than another handgun and you want one, get one.

cratz2
May 25, 2003, 03:25 PM
G23 with the 3.5# Ghost Rocket connector with overtravel stop.

It is a 40S&W so it has that stigma about it but it has never failed in any way with any ammo I've tried in it. Since I've had it, it's generally been the first centerfire I let new shooters try out and it has still never failed to feed, fire and eject.

It's a bit less accurate than most of my 1911s but that could be due to the trigger, the ammo or due to me being infinitely more accustomed to the 1911 than with the Glock.

I would tend to recommend a 9mm or a 45ACP over a 40S&W to someone that asked for my input but I have recommended Glocks many times and will continue to do so in the future.

tlhelmer
May 25, 2003, 04:14 PM
I have a G-19, G-21, and a G-27.

I have owned a G-35 and a G-36.

Never had a problem out of any of them. The closest I came to a problem was the G-21 on the affected frame list and they are sending me a replacement frame. It has never malfunctioned and it still shoots.

Rich357
May 25, 2003, 04:42 PM
I have quite a few Glocks. They have been highly reliable. They have been surprisingly accurate.

I own and enjoy other brands as well but I would hate to be without my Glocks.

Rich

Billmanweh
May 25, 2003, 05:35 PM
Over the last several years I've had Sigs, HKs, Berettas, Taurus 92, Hi-Power, Walther P99, 1911s (including a $2000 Springfield Professional), and lots of different sizes and calibers of Glocks. I've pretty much tried everything I could get my hands on.

and if I had to pick one handgun to use in a "defensive" situation, it'd be a Glock 17. I'd add a set of Heinie Straight 8 night sights, Glock factory extended slide and mag releases and 3.5# connector, an extended slide lock, skateboard grip tape and an M3 light. Then hi-caps filled with Winchester Ranger 127gr +P.

faustulus
May 25, 2003, 06:29 PM
There are two types of peope in the world. Those that like glock grip angles and those that like the more traditional angle. I fall into the latter catagory. I imagine if you have never shot a pistol before, you won't notice the difference. If you have it might be harder to overcome. $.02

10-Ring
May 25, 2003, 06:36 PM
I've owned a few Glocks...a 23, a 17, a 21c and a 36. Well made, reliable but there's just something about them I didn't really like.

HBK
May 25, 2003, 09:31 PM
I think they are overrated. I had a 19 that I traded for a Walther P-99. They are reliable, but no better than any high quality gun. Sig, HK, Glock, Walther...all on the same level imo.

slh02
May 25, 2003, 09:46 PM
I really like the style and simplicity of Glocks offerings (the 19 in particular). That said, the 19 that I rented at my local range was without a doubt the nastiest pistol I have ever fired. The trigger was terrible, the recoil seemed especially harsh and I experienced several malfunctions in ~30 rounds.

It is important to note that this was a rental gun. I am sure that this is not the norm with Glocks but I must say that my one and only experience with them was not a very good one. Maybe one day I will be able to fire one that is actually taken care of.:)

Gunner45
May 25, 2003, 10:32 PM
Glocks are Fugly, that is funtional but ugly. :) They just don't seem to have the soul that a 1911 has.

Gunner45

denfoote
May 26, 2003, 02:34 AM
Average.
My wife's G26 is a gem.
My G29 shoots like a champ.
My G36, however, is a jam-o-matic!!! :rolleyes:

sm
May 26, 2003, 02:44 AM
If the gun fits the shooter , and they get quick accruate hits with chosen cal...that's what counts.

Glocks don't like me. I can open a new box take one out and the sights fall off. Shot a new gun after the owner fired a few mags, I get 2 rds off and the trigger assembly breaks.

Don't fit me as well as some....I'm not allowed to even touch the box on a new one...I'm a jinx.

NIB
May 26, 2003, 03:28 PM
Glocks are great but they are not the God Guns that some people make it out to be. G17 was my first gun and I still have my G17 and I love it. But I prefer a 1911 anyday.

sig970
May 26, 2003, 04:23 PM
G19 fit me like a 2x4

Still shoot them, because my shooting group of guys bring a 17, 19, 22, 23, 35 between them.

They always want to shoot my Beretta, Kimber, & Sig Sauers. Go figure

jacketch
May 26, 2003, 08:19 PM
Had two Glocks, sold two Glocks. Nothing spectacular, good or bad about them, had a few reliability problems but that may be a coincidence. They were accurate though. What I really didn't like was the ergonomics. That and I just don't feel comfortable with plastic guns. They just don't have the mojo for me. Maybe one day I'll find one that does it for me!

444
May 26, 2003, 08:32 PM
I own one and used to own another one. I currently own a 17. It runs OK. I have had it jam, but then, I have had every pistol I own jam at one time or another. I have great difficulty shooting it accurately. If all you are concerned with is hitting a silhouette, it is fine. Maybe with more practice I could improve but the trigger takes some getting used to.
The other was a .45 ACP full size, was that a 21 ? It took a dive in less than 200 rounds and I had to send it back to the factory.

I am not all that impressed with Glock. I think they are good solid handguns, they are reliable, have adequate accuracy for what they were designed to do. But, for me, there are better choices out there.

Pat S
May 26, 2003, 08:58 PM
I like Glocks. I like the fact that you only have to get used to 1 trigger pull unlike some others where you have to master 2. I also like the simplicity of the gun---kind of a high-capacity revolver. In the training I've attended in the past Glocks seem to have far fewer malfunctions then any other brand in attendance while being in the overwhelming majority of guns chosen by those in attendance.

I might add it took some time for me and many rounds down range before I started to develop an appreciation for the plastic pistol.

For a combat gun I think they're hard to beat! Perhaps this is why the majority of police in this country carry a Glock?

Stay Safe, Pat S

MikeJ
May 26, 2003, 09:01 PM
I have a second generation 23 that has always performed well. My opinion is that, for the most part, they do what they were designed to do quite well and that is provide a very simple manual of arms in a very simply designed platform with a minimum number of parts to be rugged and reliable. They don't do much for me in aesthetic terms or give me that pride of ownership that some of my other guns do but as I stated that's not what I believe they were intended to do. To me, Glocks are tools; well built and reliable but without much pizazz. Having said that, if I knew I was going to be in a gunfight my G23 would most likely be the gun I'd turn to. Mike

creekerdoug
May 26, 2003, 09:39 PM
I only have one Glock, a G34. It always works and is more accurate the I am.

I've found it to be hard to transition between a Glock trigger and anything else. If you shoot just a Glock it won't matter but if you want to switch guns often, your trigger control may suffer.

The Silver Bullet 1719
May 26, 2003, 11:32 PM
While I don't own a Glock, I have shot the 17 (2nd), 19C (3rd), and 23(3rd) with really good results. I would like a 19 someday, but I still like steel instead of polymer and I don't really like striker-fired guns.

GitSome45
May 27, 2003, 04:15 AM
I have owned the Glock 23, and the Glock 33, both were 3rd generation.

Both were accurate and functioned 100% right out of the box...

I`ve shot many other models, and feel the same.

When I purchase another, it will be the Glock 33. I like the .357SIG cartridge, and with the "PEARCE +1" magazine base, it gives you 10 full rounds in the magazine plus a full fingered grip.(place for your pinky) Not to mention that all you have to do is buy a .40 cal barrel for it, and it is good to go... .357/.40

JMHO,

Howard

Ala Dan
May 27, 2003, 04:24 AM
Howdy Gun Luver's Everywhere-

While there is certainly nothing wrong with GLOCK'S,
I had to vote with my heart; by giving them an average
rating as they are NO better or NO worst than any other quality self-chuncker!:uhoh: :)

FootNote: Here are my top pick's in order:

a) SIG-Sauer "Classic" P-series pistols
b) Browning Hi-Power's
c) GLOCK'S
d) H&K's
e) Series 70 Colt's


Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

RON in PA
May 27, 2003, 11:58 AM
I didn't vote because the choices weren't what I would say. I've owned five Glocks: G17, G19, G26, G34 and G21. Of the five, only the G17 remains, never a bobble, excellent pistol. The G34 was fine, but in my experience not any more accurate than the G17. The G21 was 100% reliable and a tack driver, but too light for the 45 ACP IHMO and too big a grip. Great to carry(not my purpose), but not for extended shooting sessions. For the 45 ACP I'll stick with the 1911. So I would recommend those three with caveats, the G26 and G19 were carry pieces that let me down. Both had,on several occasions, jams with JHP ammo of different brands that were not easily clearable with a tap-rack-bang. The guns were tied-up for at least 30 seconds to a minute. Not acceptable.

Brian Williams
May 27, 2003, 12:20 PM
Have a g19
ok gun
don't shoot it much
Daughter does
like S&W 13 better

GlocksRock
May 27, 2003, 12:58 PM
I couldn't give them a higher reccomendation. I have owned several, and still have 3 of them. They aren't as accurate as my full sized Kimber .45, but then again the triggers are completely different and the sight radius is longer.

Khornet
May 28, 2003, 07:25 AM
but since mine is a G22 .40 S&W then of course I blowed up long ago, and you'll need a Ouija board to contact me.

braindead0
May 28, 2003, 09:34 AM
Where's the "What's a Glock" option :evil:

Pebcac
May 28, 2003, 11:51 AM
I guess I'll toss my oar in, too. I voted inferior for one reason only: "It's not a recall, it's a free upgrade."

I loved my G19. I'm one of those freaks that actually likes the trigger, and the grip angle doesn't bother me. I also like striker-fired pistols. Glocks shoot pretty naturally for me. But when the whole frame-rail thing started, it bothered me that they had a safety issue that they felt strong enough to replace all these frames for, but didn't have the strength of character to call it what it was - a recall. And I think they deliberately tried to keep it on the down-low. You'd never have known about it if you didn't read internet forums or GSSF's website, unless you picked it up word-of-mouth. Nothing even appeared on their corporate website - only on GSSF. Sig has a popup for Blaser rifle problems, in addition to the section on the front page. Colt and Ruger both still advertise in magazines for free modernization of pistols that were made over 30 years ago, longer in Colt's case.

Bottom line, I just didn't trust it. YMMV, and please, this is all IMHO. I'm not trying to start a flame war. I still think the simplicity of design and ease of parts replacement put the Glock on the top shelf conceptually, but I just don't trust the company.

Cal4D4
May 28, 2003, 12:09 PM
I doubt if there is a firearm out there that is more reliable or easier to wrench on. The Glock trigger gives me way too much opportunity to miss my target. My G20 with a tight chambered KKM barrel is still reliable, as is my G29 with sloppy Glock chamber. All pistols have their strengths and weaknesses. Glock does it for about $550, Kimber, HK, Sig and company are somewhat higher and don't make a 10mm. Caliber alone puts Glock half a cut above most others. Maybe it's ugliness evens the score.

themic
May 28, 2003, 03:51 PM
needs option: good gun, can't hold it or shoot it worth a damn. recommend others try, but will never own one meself.

WingZero
May 28, 2003, 06:56 PM
I have a Glock 19 that I carry, and a Glock 22. I love both of them. I have never had a problem, and I purchased both of my glocks used.

Poohgyrr
May 28, 2003, 07:18 PM
12 year old Gen2 G23 still runs terrific. Dittos for a 2nd Gen G24. Two 3rd Gen G23's, a 27, and a 35 all are reliable & accurate. All are easy to clean, maintain, and not a problem at all. There are a lot of good pistols out there, Glocks are definitely included in this.

litework
May 28, 2003, 07:22 PM
I'm pretty critical of Glock, but I like them. My first handgun purchase was a Glock. Ten years and thirteen handguns later, I purchased another Glock (last Thursday). They are "boxy" and I like the features on the Springfield XD a little better, but Glock is shootable and reliable. Furthermore, Glock has a pistol to fit everyone's needs. They have every caliber one could need including, God forbid, a 10 mm. I can't think of a handgun company that offers a greater selection of "boxy" pistols. They've got an "itty bitty" size, a compact, a standard, and a "big as all outdoors" model for just about every caliber. I can't knock them too bad.

Art Eatman
May 28, 2003, 07:35 PM
I bought a collection that had a full-size Glock which shot the .45ACP, whichever model that is. It shot okay; I had no difficulty hitting with it at IPSC speeds and full-house ammo. No malfunctions in the couple of hundred rounds I put through it.

I sold it mostly on account of I'm too used to a 1911 to like the shape of the "handle", and I have a personal distaste for black plastic. That shouldn't bother other folks, of course.

So far as I know, then, a Glock is as okay a pistol as most others.

Art

garrettwc
May 30, 2003, 12:37 AM
OK so based on eveyone's recommendations I went and rented a few Glocks to see what all this talk was about. Here are my observations:

1. Ten round magazines aren't. Hard as I tried on the G19 I couldn't get that 10th round in with just the ole thumbs.

2. That trigger really is different. I had some trouble until one of the local "Glock gurus" demonstrated the trick with the trigger reset. Had several shots touching after that.

3. Had some failures to lock back on the last round. I think these were shooter induced. As a 1911 shooter I hold a "high thumb" and I think I may have inadvertently hit the slide release during recoil.

Overall impression is that there will be a Glock in my future. Whether it will impress me enough "long term" to find a home on my hip remains to be seen, but it did prove itself worthy.

As a side note, they had a 10MM G20 there and I decided to give it a try too. 10MM from a lightweight polymer gun is a real attention getter indoors:cool: :D

Curare
May 30, 2003, 12:23 PM
I've owned many different pistols including Glock, HK, SIG and Beretta. I prefer my second generation G17 for the low bore axis, consistent trigger pull and freakish durability. It's a simple, high speed gun that has taken over the civilian market, law enforcement, and competition.

bubbygator
May 30, 2003, 02:26 PM
I had a layoff of about 10 years & recently took up shooting again. I had shot .45 in the Navy, and many calibers and mfgrs, and both SA and DA before my hiatus. Based on all the Glock publicity in the last 10 years, I bought a Glock-26 and a Browning HiPower to restart - thinking that I could get rid of the Glock if I didn't like it.

I was pleasantly surprised. Now I know first-hand what all the talk/publicity is about. While both guns are extremely reliable & will take any ammo I've tried so far, the Glock's trigger/sights seem to fit me the best. Others may complain about the long trigger, but for me it allows a nice continuous squeeze and very consistent let-off.... translates into nice tight groupings.

After getting back to the range, I also found out that they now have guns for rent! So go out & try the Glock experience for yourself.

LeonCarr
September 8, 2003, 07:42 PM
I own three Glock 17s, all 3rd generation, all bone stock. 20,000 rounds through the three of them, no malfunctions. Everything from 88 grain JHPs to 147 grain Black Talons, and 125 grain lead bullets too. All of mine will shoot five shot groups 2 inches or under off of sandbags at 25 yards with the right load and good technique, with handloads using 115 grain Nosler JHPs hovering right around 1.5 inches.

I will put an out-of-the-box Glock up against an out-of-the-box 1911 any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. I used to be a big 1911 shooter, but I got really tired of malfunction drills, especially in the middle of an IPSC match. No malfunctions is one less thing to worry about, and in a match or on the street, you have enough things to keep your mind on.

The signature says it all.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

Bainx
September 8, 2003, 08:27 PM
I can't help but notice there is very little talk about the G30 [Big Dawg].
Only pistol I have owned that has been 100% reliable out of the box.
Although I like the grip of the 1911, I can make follow up shots easier for some reason with the G30.
The quality of the thing is top-flight. The trigger is great, IMHO.

FPrice
September 8, 2003, 08:35 PM
I've had at least a dozen Glocks in 3 calibers (9mm, .357 sig, and .45 ACP), never had a problem that would cause me to doubt the pistol.

As the man said, YMMV.

Marko Kloos
September 8, 2003, 08:56 PM
Glocks are good guns...robust, easy to maintain, simple, and boringly reliable. They're the ultimate self-defense appliance.

1goodshot
September 8, 2003, 09:59 PM
They are very good guns but take practice to get use to compared to other guns I own.It is the gun I carry everday.

B Coyote
September 8, 2003, 10:04 PM
I love the Glock.:)

Light weight.
As accurate as most shooters can fire it.
Reliable.
Consistant trigger pull.
Easy to carry (due to the flat profile and lack of edges to snag).
Ready to go out of the box (though I do prefer night sights).
Available in sizes/calibers to fit almost any need.

My experience with Glock has been all positive. I've bought and sold several, but I always go back to the G19/G23.

bc:)

emann
September 8, 2003, 11:10 PM
All four of mine have been utterly reliable.

wunderkind
September 9, 2003, 01:43 AM
Plenty of fancier guns out there.

None better.

As for the 'character' issue, I'm glad my Glocks don't have 'character'--I prefer their spartan efficiency and reliability.

Feeding, going boom, then ejecting is the best character trait a pistol can have.

Tamara
September 9, 2003, 03:23 AM
Very reliable pistols with bizarre, crunchy triggers, fair-to-middlin' accuracy, good tolerance for abuse and neglect, mediocre ergonomics (for me, at least), cheesy plastic sights, good capacity with non-gelded mags, light weight, and homely looks.

TonyB
September 9, 2003, 03:09 PM
I have a G17 that I got recently,and it's 100% reliable and accurate....it even fits my hand ok...it can shoot +p's all day......however....there's just something about it that's odd........I can't put my finger on it.Some have said Glocks don't have "soul"...I don't know if that's it or not......again I love this gun and would trust my life to it,but I still carry a revolver for CCW....maybe with continued use I'll find it's "soul"......on the other hand,it is just a gun.....maybe the whole "soul" thing is just made up by 1911 guys as an excuse when their gun jams:D .......that one was for my Dad....the die hard 1911 guy,who thinks plastic guns and 9mm are for sissies.....:rolleyes:

wanderinwalker
September 9, 2003, 03:58 PM
First and foremost, I consider myself more of a 1911/.45 ACP convert than a true Glocker.

I know that there are reliable 1911s out there, but the couple I've played with weren't/aren't those pistols. However, my Glock 17 and 26 are truly reliable, accurate, and easy enough to shoot well. They thrive on reloads, and only malfunction on starting loads that are a bit too conservative. I am proficient with either, and would carry them with full confidence. Knowing that I can get off 3 or more rounds of 9mm FOR CERTAIN is better than having a .45 malf on the 2nd round.

7.62FullMetalJacket
September 10, 2003, 12:05 AM
The Glocks are good. Functional.

I have just finished evaluating my P14-45 limited against the Glock 21C. In a defensive situation, I choose the Glock. In an offensive situation, I choose the P14-45, more accurate, crisper. SInce the best defense is an offense, the P14-45 wins.

Amish
September 10, 2003, 12:13 AM
Glock 17 and 19 are good, the rest are junk. In .40 I rather have a Beretta, SIG, or a HK. In .45 I rather have a HK USP45.

Ky Larry
September 10, 2003, 01:03 PM
I don't get Glocks appeal. Everybody says they're reliable, but so what? So are Rugers, Sigs,Berettas,CZ's,etc.........
For me, they point weird,don't fit my hand, and have a joke for a trigger. But,if you like them,then enjoy. Different strokes for different folks.:D

Matthew_Q
September 10, 2003, 02:42 PM
First and only Glock experience was when a buddy got a G23 in .40.

It was a jammomatic. Wouldn't really feed anything reliably. It did better with lighter bullets. It was neat with the light on it.

Aside from jamming, I didn't like it because:

Grip angle
Muzzle flip

I know the jamming was unusual. I have a buddy that's about to become LEO who uses Glocks, and has great luck with them. I prefer 1911s, and as soon as I have my CZ this weekend, I'm sure I'll prefer it, too.

ChickenHawk
September 11, 2003, 10:33 PM
I have 2 Glocks, and neither has EVER given me any trouble. I've got over 5000 rounds through my G17 and over 1000 through my G26. Love em both.

ChickenHawk

firestar
September 11, 2003, 11:01 PM
Average. I had a G-21 and my bother has a G-36. The G-36 has jammed more than 3 times (not sure of exact number) in about 1500-2000 rounds so reliability is nothing special.

I love the grip angle and light weight but I hate the grip itself (too boxy and large) and I also hate the way the trigger hurts the pad of my shooting finger after several rounds.

As a service/defensive gun, they are fine if reliable but it is not like there is nothing else that compares to a Glock. I think SIGS and Berettas are better than Glocks in ever way I can think of and there are others that are just as good (Ruger, S&W).

Good guns but not worth the price when you consider that you can get a SIG or Beretta for the same money.

Spieler
September 12, 2003, 12:02 AM
My experience with the G17 goes back to 1986 when I got mine and it is still humming along quite nicely, thank you. Now I don't run 10k rounds a year through it, but it has seen some rough use in my hands and in many others and all I've done is replace the flimsy plastic adjustable rear sight that it originally wore. Based on experience with my gun, I have had several friends purchase Glocks, mostly G17, G19 & G21s over the years and have yet to hear any negative feedback.:)

Tacblack
September 12, 2003, 12:07 AM
I have had 3. Sold them all due to grip angle, never could get good hits with the trigger. Just not the gun for me. No function problems. Nice wieght and size for round count.

Zach S
September 12, 2003, 02:43 PM
I voted average. guns are like gloves, you have to find one that fits, and the glocks dont fit me at all.

I rent a glock on occasion, however wont buy one. They point high for me, the 9mm and .40 grips just dont feel right anyway. .45 (and 10mm?) grips are too fat for my hand (and .45 is my prefered round). The trigger feels like crap. Uncomfotrable when carried IWB. I could probably think of a few more things I hate about them but I'm half asleep. However, I do realize these are all personal prefrences (except for the point high, which can be fixed with practice), and wouldn't hesitate to reccommend one, however I'm more likely to reccommend a 1911 over it.

Island Beretta
September 12, 2003, 06:39 PM
I must say that the Glock's lightweight, flat profile and high capacity are very appealing. Mine has never jammed. In fact most Glock malfunctions that I see are due to limpwristing or a modification done incorrectly. I also find the pistol to have excellent pointability. One shot accuracy was dead on, even with the crappy plastic sights, but I found that during strings the groups were unsatisfactory. I subsequently discovered that a space exist between the middle of my palm and the grip and so during rapid fire my grip would shift. Installed a Hogue sock and the groups shrank within acceptable levels.

I am not so sure about it being tough as the frame is plastic and I feel I need to be careful with it. I also find them to be a bit pricy as mine costed more than my Beretta. The Beretta is a better worked, higher quality machine. In a crisis and given the opportunity I would always reach for the Beretta.

Poohgyrr
September 12, 2003, 08:24 PM
Umm, I don't see this in my previous post, but I will admit it.

Glocks are UGLY :rolleyes: But doggone it, I hear a bang every time I press the trigger, and the rounds basically go where I want. :D Lightweight and more rounds (standard mags) too.

I still think my favorite Hi Power has class, a much better grip, and looks good too. ;)

1911austin
September 12, 2003, 10:15 PM
I have owned the M31, M32, M33, M30, M21 and M27. I have sold all of them in order to buy 1911s. I just don’t like the feel of the Glocks as much as the 1911. That being said, I have shot thousands of rounds through each of the Glocks that I have owned and do not remember a single FTE, FTF or any other problem with any of them. Their accuracy was more the adequate. They are very simple to clean and maintain. They can take much more abuse that any of my 1911s.

It is hard to argue against a gun that works perfectly right out of the box, is virtually indestructible and only cost around $500. And the next time one of my 1911s start screwing up; I will probably be at my local gun shop slapping down some cash for another Glock.
:uhoh:

355sigfan
September 13, 2003, 03:26 AM
Best service pistol made for the average cop/soldier/ccw holder. I like a 1911 better for the guys that can take advantage of the small advantages it has with its shorter trigger reset and cocked and locked carry.
Pat

Black Snowman
September 13, 2003, 03:49 AM
My first and only Glock is a G24P, the origional competition model with the unique slanted porting, extended mag release and light trigger. I bought it after shopping for, and trying out, MANY guns. I wanted something for putting holes in paper where I couldn't blame the gun. I also wanted something with a consistant trigger pull so I'd have a shorter learning curve to proficiency and could worry about more important things like safety and shooting technique.

The features I wanted and the fit to my hand all came together in the G24P. I have since put somewhere between 5-7000 rounds through it without any incident that couldn't be be traced to my poor reloads ;)

Intersetingley enough when they went to the finger groove frame the ergos went to hell for me so I'll probably never buy another Glock even though my G24P is still my favorite handgun. The handguns I have aquired since are a Taurus 669 revolver, a Browning Buckmark 5.5 Nickle Target, a Desert Eagle in .50 AE, and an HK USP Compact.

surfinUSA
September 13, 2003, 10:49 AM
I find Glocks to be totally reliable and accurate. My only experience is with the 9mms and 40s though.

Their customer service is first class.

They are great guns for both the inexperienced and experienced shooter.

Their corrosion resistance make them first class boat or fishing/camping guns. Simple to detail strip for those occasions when you fall in the swamp mud. But will fuction properly after rinsing in river water until you can get home to detail strip.

I find that the light weight, corrosion resistance and 15 round capacity make the 19 about the perfect ccw gun. If I need to go smaller the 27 in 40 gives a little more punch to make up for the lower round capacity. I never liked the full size 17 and 22.

That said they function no better than a Beretta or Sig (both also are excellent weapons) but the glocks price is better.

Litlman
September 13, 2003, 11:06 AM
You can't realy go wrong with a Glock. I have tried out a few and had a 27 for a long time and had no prob. with it at all. I felt like having something different so I sold the 27 and got a cz-75bd. No complaints with the Cz.

Lancel
September 13, 2003, 11:41 AM
I've had 6 Glocks. Liked them all; liked some more than others. Currently have 2, that's enough.

Been to the Smyrna facility a couple of times; Found the people helpful, courteous, knowledgeable.

Larry

Black Majik
September 14, 2003, 05:14 AM
I compared a glock 17 and a Sig P226 side by side at the range a while ago.

First impressions since this was my first time shooting both guns. The P226 felt amazing and "just right" in my hands. I prefer skinner guns (hence my recent acquire of a Colt 1911 Government). Then held the G17, and well... it was quite blocky and felt a little uncomfortable. No biggie, I can sort of over look it.

Took a few shots from the Sig, nice groups, and the recoil didn't feel all too strong. Tried the glock next, shot alrite but was accurate as the Sig. But still, did not have that "feeling". Good thing was about the glock was no FTF and FTE's.... well, the Sig performed the same way also... no FTF's and FTE's.

With my experience, I wasn't too impressed w/ it... and cant see ever owning one. But I can see how it can be a reliable gun to shoot around w/.

Drjones
September 15, 2003, 07:15 PM
Great guns.

Absolutely love 'em.

Have two; a 27 and 30. The 30 wasn't reliable until I cleaned out the firing pin channel. Keep that clean and you are good to go.

One of the many great features of these guns is that they are completely user-serviceable, just like the 1911, only MUCH simpler. I have heard that they have the smallest number of moving parts of any handgun, and I think its true.

You can clean and replace every single part on a Glock all by yourself.

Which one ya gonna get? :)

Doctor Wu
September 15, 2003, 09:35 PM
Very reliable and functional, also very homely. I do own a few. :cool:

Coronach
September 16, 2003, 10:22 AM
I own a G20. Large. Chunky. Blocky. Weird trigger. Points ok. Feels ok. Utterly reliable. Nice capacity (if you can afford the mags). Seems very soldierly, rugged and no-nonsense.

I'm not in the market for another, but thats more a function of having niches filled than any gripe with the glock.

Mike

dhoomonyou
September 16, 2003, 11:30 AM
I had a 26 that was part of the frame recall.
I waited about 3 months for the replacement frame to come in , Customer service called me when it came in, I sent it on monday got it back on wednesday with a FREE mag to cover my shipping.
GREAT.
If I had the cash I would have one of each model.
Right now I have a 26 & 27.

Preacherman
September 17, 2003, 10:04 PM
I've standardized on the Glock for my carry pistol. I mostly carry the G23, and occasionally the G27 or G33 when deep concealment is a factor: I train with the G19: and I have a couple of other models floating around. I think others have posted sufficiently about the reliability, etc. of the Glock, and I second their comments. The ergonomics are not great, but they're perfectly acceptable, especially if you train with the gun.

Another HUGE advantage: if (God forbid) you have to shoot an attacker, and the police take your gun for ballistics testing and/or evidence (which they WILL do, and keep it for anywhere from six months to several years!), then you're only out a Glock, and can easily replace it (or use one of your spares). If you're carrying a customized 1911 worth well into four figures, it's rather more expensive (and emotional! :D ) to abandon it to the care of the "establishment" for an unknown length of time...

That said, I'm not a fan of the .45 Glocks, due to the extra width and length of the grip. It's just a tad too big for my hands. In this caliber, I switched to the SIG P220, and have been very happy with them. In 9mm, .40 and 357 SIG, I'm sticking with Glocks.

jdrobins
September 17, 2003, 10:13 PM
I purchased several and really tried to like them, But I am a 1911 person and cannot get used to the Glocks, Really nice gun but I am selling my last one tomorrow! It's just not for me,

I would however recommend them to experienced shooters!

Jim

danbh
September 18, 2003, 04:40 AM
I have a 21 and have not problems or complaints. Actually the only conplaint is that is shoots where I aim... I would buy another...:D

Benton
September 18, 2003, 08:51 AM
I've owned a Model 19 and a Model 17, neither of which gave me any problems. Despite their reliability, lightweight, easy maintenance, etc., I never developed a real liking for them. I keep trying to get excited about them - so many others are - but every time I get worked up to buy another, 15 minutes with a range rental Model17 returns me to Earth. Still, if I wanted a gun that would last forever, I'd probably get a Glock.

Doug S
September 18, 2003, 09:54 PM
So far my experience with Glock has been "Perfection":eek:

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