CZ52 Trigger Job :(


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charliemopic
December 13, 2006, 03:58 PM
A year ago I bought a non-rearsenaled, unfired condition CZ52 chambered for the very powerful 7.62x25 Tokarev round. After 2448 rounds of Romanian milsurp and 650 rounds of S & B without one single hangup it has proven to be dead nuts reliable. The wife 'Katie' can easily rack the slide and reload the lightly sprung mags therefore I would like to use it as our PP house gun.
Problem is we can't hit ***** with it. The trigger is smooth enuff but it's hard to pull. Its got to be 9 or 10 pounds. Most of the time Katie shoots the dirt 15 feet in front of her.
I've polished the fireing pin bearing surfaces to an almost mirror finish that made the pull smooth and only a little lighter.
Can anything be done to greatly improve the CZ52 trigger?
Thanks

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Jackal
December 13, 2006, 04:20 PM
I can't really comment on the trigger being poor, since mine has about a 6lb, smooth pull. I will say that there are firing pin kits available to improve trigger pull. Here's a link http://makarov.com/cart/52parts.htm

By the way, it is one of the most difficult handguns there are to shoot well. I can't hardly hit paper at 20ft.

Plink
December 13, 2006, 05:27 PM
You might poke around on the makarov.com site to see if they have any trigger info. If I remember right, they have a drop in trigger kit. As an aside, if your wife is shooting that low, it's because of flinching, not the trigger.

RecoilRob
December 13, 2006, 07:54 PM
The firing pin safety plunger spring can be a bit on the too stiff side. I found a replacement for mine that reduced the pull a bit. Can't remember if the spring was out of a ball-point or what.

You might pull the FP safety and see how much preload is on the spring and if you can find a weaker substitution.

Pull the trigger (while controlling the hammer) with the slide off and you can see how light it could be without the FP safety mucking things up.

RevDrDK
December 13, 2006, 08:51 PM
I have 2 1954 '52s. I did the mak.com CZ%522 job on #1 before I fired it, but the trigger pull is very light. I did the CZ523 job on #2, including the suggested 16.5 Wolff recoil spring. That might be a bit stiff for your wife.

If I worked this right here's a picture of my CZ04 guarding my first '52 (a 1954)
My wife decided we needed to add a Standard Schnauzer for the Czech Republic to our collection.http://s131.photobucket.com/albums/p320/RevDrDK/p1100580.jpg
You can see them here:http://s131.photobucket.com/albums/p320/RevDrDK/p1100580.jpg
http://www.chimeradog.com/
A weird fact-the former Czechoslavian military was responsible for Maintaining all three schnauzers-minin, standard (the original and best) and Giants. How would you have liked to be the Colonel in charge of Mini-Schnauzers, Covert Ops, Demolitions and Infiltration Division, The Pooping 103rd!:uhoh:

RevDrDK
December 13, 2006, 09:03 PM
I have 2 1954 '52s. I did the mak.com CZ%522 job on #1 before I fired it, but the trigger pull is very light. I did the CZ523 job on #2, including the suggested 16.5 Wolff recoil spring. That might be a bit stiff for your wife.

If I worked this right here's a picture of my CZ04 guarding my first '52 (a 1954)
My wife decided we needed to add a Standard Schnauzer for the Czech Republic to our collection You can see them here:
http://www.chimeradog.com/
A weird fact-the former Czechoslavian military was responsible for Maintaining all three schnauzers-Minis, Standards (the original and best) and Giants. How would you have liked to be the Colonel in charge of Mini-Schnauzers, Covert Ops, Demolitions and Infiltration Division, The Pooping 103rd!:uhoh:

steelhead
December 13, 2006, 09:21 PM
It might contribute some but the 52 is just not a very ergonomic firearm. In addition, it has a pretty good muzzle blast and it sounds to me that she is flinching and/or jerking the trigger. Shooting the dirt @ 15 feet is an operator problem and not mechanical. You might want to try an aftermarket 9mm barrel and see how she does with less muzzle blast. I would also bet that she could shoot a TT33, in the 7.62 TOK, better than the 52 because of the better ergonomics of the TT.

Personally, the 52 would be my last choice in a defensive weapon (everything from ammo to manual of arms) but if it is your only option - then what can you do. You might want to look into installing some sights. It helps a lot with fully bringing out the accuracy potential in the 52.

Here is my 52 with Novaks installed.
http://www.hunt101.com/img/413482.JPG
http://www.hunt101.com/img/413483.JPG
http://www.hunt101.com/img/457100.JPG

mrmeval
December 14, 2006, 02:42 AM
No one makes the 9mm barrel for the CZ anymore and only rarely and at great expense do they come to market. :(

RevDrDK
December 17, 2006, 08:35 PM
If you don't mind, how long did the job take, how much did the gunsmithing run and how satisfactory was the job. I concur that the ergonomics and tiny-dragons roar of the 7.62x25 can be a bit much to throw at a new shooter. I have used the high-tech expedient of yanking on a sction of mountain-bike innertube (free at your local bike store-they can tend to be hippie-acious so I said I was using it for an art project. They usually have a couple of flats laying around the shop).

Heres a picture of the two sets of grips that came on my CZ52's, both 1954's. The more purple ones on the left show they're age a bit more-I hope that doesn't mean the pistol was similarily treated. O well I like the carachter. Has anyone out there purcased the after -market grips made for CZ's? What is your opinion thereof? Do they change the ergonomics sufficiently to cover the cost?


http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p320/RevDrDK/jpgp164112/P1040127.jpg
Here it is ! The CZ '04 guarding my first CZ52. The military training holds over the ensuing years. She probes the perimeter of our backyard and no matter how tight I get the clampdown, She'll find a way out."IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT THE CAPTURED SOLDIER AT ALL TIMES SEARCHES FOR ESCAPE FROM CAPTIVITY" So It's into the custom built Stalaguantanimo, a prefab lockdown she hasn't figured how to bust out of this one (yet).:banghead:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p320/RevDrDK/jpgp164112/UrsaandCZ_1.jpg

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