[romulus]

What is the maximum viable drop at comb? In following basic rules for stock fitting I got on the net, it seems I would need to drop the comb about an inch and a half...does this sound like too much? I would also need to bend the stock outward (cast?) about an inch. Does stock fitting allow for such gross deviations? What's the maximum off-axis dimensions you've heard of?

Thanks in advance

[Dave McCracken]

Are you measuring drop from the nose of the comb, the heel of same, or where your face touches?

An inch of cast is WAY more than most folks need.

Typical dimensions for average sized folks would run something like 1 5/8" drop at nose, 2 1/2" at heel, and 3/16" of cast, if that much. We US shooters tend to just cant the head a trifle instead.

What are the dimensions here and what do you want to do?

[romulus]

Hello Dave, just looking to restock an 1100, which I conveniently blame for my terrible shooting in my trap league. The dimensions I quoted are in addition to the existing dimensions of the 1100 stock...meaning an additional 1-1/2 drop at comb (heel) etc...I just did the "eyes closed and shoulder weapon" thing, and I thought that's what I came up with. I do have to shorten the stock by about a half inch...I am average sized at 5'11", but my arms are on the short side.

Thanks

[Dave McCracken]

Here's what I'd do....

Get the stock the right length. Then, grab some masking tape, cardboard and/or an old mouse pad and head for the patterning board. Add tape, etc, while shooting until the pattern is where you want it to be. Then, shoot some clays with it and read the breaks. Example, if the big piece heads down, you're hitting the top of the target. If it heads left, you hit on the right. Adjust if needed.

Once dialed in, measure everything, write it down, and redo it to the same measurements with neoprene, CheekEez pads, or new wood.

You could buy a new stock with an adjustable comb and pad, but these are heavy and expensive. Try this first.

HTH...

[sm]

Agree with Dave.

romulus: a question if I may? When you mounted the gun , how did you do this? I ask because we humans tend to "adapt" to the gun. Eyes closed 'push out- then into shoulder-gun to face-a couple of time -then open eyes and look at yourself in mirror. Where is your eye-what do you see?

On a 1100 when I open my eye ,I'm seeing the back-end of receiver (my eye doesn't show in the mirror). Usually 1 strip of moleskin and I'm lookin right down the rib...even the mirror shows this.

Dave gives great advice, I'm just concerned the mounting may be giving you a'difficult' read.

With an unloaded gun checked thrice, and a kerchief in opened action have someone qualified stand in front and watch you.
BIG SAFETY DEAL here...get permission and Qualified person to help.

[romulus]

re1973, you described the procedure exactly...I didn't do it in the mirror though. I think I'll start with adding stuff to the stock and see how that works.

Dave, if I broke those clays with regularity I could probably tell where I'm hitting them, alas, I'm embarassing myself on the range...not enough hits to tell. I'll work on form and practice, then maybe I should consider the stock-fitting thing.

Thanks for the help, gentlemen

[Dave McCracken]

OK, I see where some of the problem may lie.

Give me a few days, it may be time for a Wingshooting 101 thread.

[sm]

Dave and romulus : Well, I didn't mean to intrude.

I just interpreted something about the way romulus was determining gun fit, that raised a flag.

Gun fit is high on my list of importance, with any firearm. (broken record I know) Be it shotgun, rifle or handgun.

Starting out with a new platform/gun/discipline, its easy to get of on the wrong foot, get dis-illusioned, and give up. There is also a myriad of bad advice out there...be it free ( and not asked for) or paid for in lessons. Guess that's why I'm grateful for some of the old idea still around...good advice, from competent shooters for free ( ok maybe a soda).

Once one gets the fit, and some basic tools, the fine tune to application is easier. You get the GP shotgun fit, and hits, transiton to say like a buddy of mine.

He has a shorter stocked gun for gaming, allows for vary ready positions...etc. Now he will use a slip on recoil pad to lengthen the LOP, and shoot clays, or when he wants to use it on doves.

Pad comes off for HD and gaming.

Getting started off saves frustration. Saves some mistakes, and more important maybe the $ for ammo, range fees, lessons, and later a reloader.

Heck -in no time- romulus, you'll be able to powder them with anything you pick up. Really!

Then I want to hear how you grabbed another shooter's gun , called the shot (gonna have big pc fall down) . Better yet waiting on the day you worked with a new guy and got 'em all fitted up and breaking birds.

Best.

[foghornl]

Mr. McCracken:
Give me a few days, it may be time for a Wingshooting 101 thread.

PLEASE ! ! ! For those of us that don't get as much shooting time as we would like, and those just learning the 'Basics of Shottys' another in your excellent series of "Shotgunnin' 101 fer New Shooters" would be greatly appreciated.

[Dave McCracken]

Coming right up!!