I want a c&r permit..how do i get one?


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mephisto
May 25, 2003, 10:51 PM
I want a c&r permit..how do i get one? what is it worth? is it worth it? thanks

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Bob R
May 25, 2003, 11:10 PM
To get one, follow the directions:

http://www.cruffler.com/becomingcruffler.html

What is it worth.

Value of the paper, probably 1/100th of 1 cent.

Is it worth it?

You betcha. Can save transfer fees by having C&R's sent to your home. Which in the long run may cost even more money because of the number of guns you "just have to get."


bob

blades67
May 25, 2003, 11:14 PM
Download the forms you need from the atf web site, follow the directions, fill in the blanks, send in the forms and then wait.

Hkmp5sd
May 25, 2003, 11:49 PM
ATF Form 7CR (PDF Format) (http://www.atf.treas.gov/forms/pdfs/f531016.pdf)

TheOtherOne
May 26, 2003, 05:07 AM
A C&R only allows you to get guns over 50 years old right? You would still have to do a transfer through a normal FFL dealer to get a newer gun?

gunsmith
May 26, 2003, 05:10 AM
can you sell your guns to the public
or just other C&R holders?

Feanaro
May 26, 2003, 05:21 AM
You are still a normal citizen as far as selling the C&R goes if I understand it correctly. You can merely have the weapons shipped to you, no FFL middle-man needed. 'Course I might be wrong.

So you can sell them but not as a business...

Kharn
May 26, 2003, 07:17 AM
You cannot sell so many guns that the ATF considers you to be 'in the business' of selling guns. For example, buying twenty Yugo SKSs and selling all but one wouldnt go over very well if you got audited, while buying a Century Arms U-Fix-'Em five pack and selling off the worst two or three would be acceptable (U-Fix-'Ems are sold as-is, and vary from VG with a cracked stock to rusted action and barrel with no stock, its all luck of the draw).

Kharn

Hkmp5sd
May 26, 2003, 11:00 AM
A C&R only allows you to get guns over 50 years old right? You would still have to do a transfer through a normal FFL dealer to get a newer gun?

You can purchase any firearm over 50 years of age OR listed by name on ATF's C&R List, from any person in the US and have it shipped directly to your licensed residence.

You can sell C&R firearms and ship them directly to other C&R licensees. You can sell any of your firearms inside your state of residence to another person just like any non-licensee. Purchasing "modern" firearms (other than private-in state purchases if legal in your area) requires use of an 01-FFL.

Bob R
May 26, 2003, 03:06 PM
http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/relics/


Here is the skinny on the whole thing.

Also the C&R list, which includes some Class III weapons if you can find one and live in a Class III state.


bob

starfuryzeta
May 26, 2003, 04:08 PM
If you have an understanding significant other, or you are single and not on a fixed income, go ahead. ;)

Once you get it, you will rack up bills for the first few months just getting used to the fact that you can get quality firearms shipped straight to you for basically wholesale costs. My first purchase was a CZ52 pistol. Opening the box and seeing it felt almost as if I had gotten away with something (which I did, because wifey didn't see it. :D )

So, many rifles and pistols later, I feel mostly satisfied and my wallet is much, much lighter.

Hkmp5sd
May 26, 2003, 04:39 PM
Don't forget your poor UPS driver at Xmas. :) Might need a new back brace.

Bob R
May 26, 2003, 05:06 PM
We live on a dead-end street and every time the BBT (big brown truck) comes down the street my wife wants to know what kind of gun I bought now.

bob

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