Springfield XD45 Reliability?
HankB
December 16, 2006, 06:34 PM
I've read the reports in the gun rags, and the XD45 sounds interesting . . . I handled one at Cabela's and it felt better in my hand than a G21, but after getting burned with a Kahr P9 based on gun rag fables, I figured I'd ask the members of this august assembly about THEIR experiences.
So . . . if you have an XD45, what variation is it, how reliable has it been, what ammunition does it like/not like, and (this is important) does it have any tendency to fall prey to "limp wrist syndrome?"
(I ask because my G17, ordinarily reliable, sometimes chokes if I let a lady shoot it. On the other hand, my G26 works fine with an unlocked-wrist, very loose two-finger grip.)
Does Springfield say anything about the use of +P ammo?
Thanks . . .
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Walkalong
December 16, 2006, 06:39 PM
Mine has been 99% reliable or better. One jam in about 300 rds. No failures of any other kind. - 4" full size.
battlehatch
December 16, 2006, 06:52 PM
Haven't tried any +P ammo yet,but in 2000+ rounds in my XD45 5" has not had a single problem. No feeding or firing problems, nothing. My only regret is that I didn't buy the 4" model too! I have fired mine in all kinds of foul weather and it is extremely reliable IMHO. I've shot all different types of ammo from Winchester FMJ from wally world, to surplus .45 ammo, to very questionable reloads, to 117gr. Aguila IQ's. Never a hiccup. I LOVE my XD.
battlehatch
December 16, 2006, 06:57 PM
As for stovepipes, I couldn't get my XD to do that if I tried, even with my wimpy girlfriend at the helm. The last thing that I love about the XD pistols are that, at least for me, have a very natural draw. I can point it at an object quickly, then look through the sights and it's on target. Whatever I point it at, I hit. I'm no competition shooter, but my accuracy is practical and consistent with the XD.
Ilovemyglock
December 16, 2006, 07:15 PM
My father purchaced the XD45 tactical,all black.......looks like a glock!!!
Fires reliably with any ammo .....bout 600 rounds of various ammo to be exact.
The gun has a tendency to shoot low, even at 10' away from the target!!!!
I personally dont like the gun, neither does he..... I dont want to brag but with my glock its so accurate,even with cheap winchester, can hit a 5" target 75m away. I couldn't hit a 5" target 10' away with the XD.
The gun at best would be ok if your going to have a fire fight in the 10'-20' range.
And hope like heck you dont shoot him in the foot!!! LOL
GLOCK RULES!
Redneck with a 40
December 16, 2006, 07:25 PM
My XD40 has been 100% after 1500 rounds. Unlike the XD basher, mine shoots POINT OF AIM.:D This pistol is awesome and I would not trade it for anything, did I mention I absolutely LOVE this pistol.:D I'd gladly put my XD up against a block....I mean Glock anytime.:p
treebeard
December 16, 2006, 07:28 PM
Springfield XD45 Reliability?
This is not about Glocks, look at the title of the post. I really don't want to see another topic go from XD45, M&P, CZ, or something else to "I'm in love with my Glock!" Please don't start the Glock vs. XD45 or Glock vs. M&P war folks. Ilovemyglock, which .45ACP Glock do you own?
BTW, my XD45 has over 650 rounds through it with no FTF's or FTE's whatsoever. It will feed whatever I put into it.
'Card
December 16, 2006, 07:39 PM
Relevant reading:
XD series on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Armory_XD)
XD Torture Test (http://springfield-armory.primediaoutdoors.com/SPstory11.html)
Personal experience:
I've had my 5" Tactical XD-45 since February. I've put... hell, I don't know. A lot of rounds of every variety (mostly Wolf) through it, and it happily eats everything. Never had a jam of any sort. Took it kayaking, got sand in it, dunked it in saltwater, never a spot of corrosion.
In all honesty, it's a pretty boring gun. It's tougher than I am, shoots better than I do, and doesn't need any aftermarket stuff.
Ilovemyglock
December 16, 2006, 07:42 PM
I own a 4 gen. model 22 .40 cal Glock, Im not really bashing the XD40 which has been around for a while, just the new 45 thats has been awarded "gun of the year" Maybe the shorter barreled version is more accurate than the tactical, but if you guys insist the XD45 is as accurate shooter that it is, I will tell my father to bring it back to the gun shop and see if it could be fixed....or returned.....it shoots like the barrel is bent!!
I have competed with a browning model 21 22cal. for years through the orignal sights, and shot just about every handgun made (my father in-law has a FFL licence.):) But the XD45 tactical is very dependable but shoots aweful.
Like i said it could be a design flaw...But it stinks when you get your hopes up, go to the range and the weapon shoots like a pig.
'Card
December 16, 2006, 07:48 PM
Any gun that "shoots like the barrel is bent" (as you claim) should already have been returned to the gun shop - either for repairs, or your money back. I don't care what brand it is.
treebeard
December 16, 2006, 07:56 PM
I know of at least 5 people that have the XD45 Service or Tactical and I have seen them shoot at the range. It must be your handgun because my friends are way more accurate with their XD45's than I will ever be. I have no problems with the gun being accurate, it's me that is the problem!!
it shoots like the barrel is bent!!
What exactly does that mean?
Ilovemyglock
December 16, 2006, 08:00 PM
The barrel bent thing is like you aim at the target ,got all 3 dots lined up perfect,got the trigger crept up,and shoot. And the damn bullet hits the ground!!!:eek:
dmftoy1
December 16, 2006, 08:10 PM
They're absolutely terrible . .you should immediately ship yours to me and I'll give you $100 for your trouble. :)
I've got a 4-inch Service model . . . .it's had about 2852 rounds through it. (Give or take 2 rounds). It is 100% absolutely positively boring in that it never jams, fails to fire and rarely misses the target. The only knock I can think of is that it absolutely hates LSWC ammo.
I shoot tons of 200 Gr. LSWC ammo in my 1911's and when I tried to use it in the XD45 it would digest maybe 100 rounds and then start jamming on every 5th-8th round. I tried about everything I could think of reloading wise and was never able to get it to run more than 100 rounds without a jam of some sort. My best was 99 rounds. I suspect that the cause was small bits of lead off of the shoulder of the SWC getting shaved off and eventually building up UNDER the feed ramp and lifting it up just enough to cause feeding problem. I finally just switched over to 200 gr HP loads and it's absolutely boring to shoot. (about 1900 of the 2852 have been those rounds with 300 rounds being 230 FMJ Hardball)
The next tactical I see I'm going to buy, and I'm really hoping to run into a "compact".
Have a good one,
Dave
treebeard
December 16, 2006, 08:13 PM
Sounds like my G36!!!
Redhat
December 16, 2006, 10:31 PM
The barrel bent thing is like you aim at the target ,got all 3 dots lined up perfect,got the trigger crept up,and shoot. And the damn bullet hits the ground!!!
If I were you, I would check the muzzle closely for dings. I have never shot any handgun that was as inaccurate as you describe, unless someone had trouble with trigger control and anticipation.
Good Luck!
varoadking
December 16, 2006, 10:35 PM
Reliable - yes. Accurate - not so much...
My Tactical was a terrible shooter and had to go back to Springfield. They recrowned the barrel and it still was less than what I consider to be accurate. Sold it...
Hanzo581
December 16, 2006, 10:42 PM
Who would have thought someone with a screen name "ILOVEMYGLOCK" would be posting about how terrible the XD45 is :confused: :rolleyes:
It is a very nice pistol, I own the 4" version, I have never had any problems with it, and it is very accurate (In competent hands)
distra
December 16, 2006, 10:51 PM
I really like mine. Has been extremely reliable and very accurate in my hands.
ZeSpectre
December 16, 2006, 11:00 PM
I have an XD-40 (Service model). My buddy has an XD-45 (also service model). We've both run at least 800 rounds through each (probably closer to 1k) and as far as I know neither of us has had a single problem with our XD.
twigs
December 16, 2006, 11:17 PM
I have an XD40 Service with about 1500 rds through it. One or two hiccups due to the owner's mistakes, cured by slap and rack. I may sell it...to get an XD45C for carry.
treebeard
December 16, 2006, 11:20 PM
Somehow I think accuracy has more to do with whoever is actually shooting it. Gimme a break with the "And the damn bullet hits the ground!!!" I am done posting on this one. The Glock lovers have united once again to shout from the mountain tops how perfect their Glocks are and how inferior any other semi-auto is!
The-Fly
December 16, 2006, 11:44 PM
I rented a 4" xd 45 at the range a few weeks back and instantly loved it. I shot it as well as i shoot my G17. And I shoot my G17 pretty decently. I got a 5" on the way :)
I love Glocks, but the XD's seem to be just as good (maybe even better on the 45 side of things).
treebeard
December 17, 2006, 08:50 AM
Thanks. By the way, I like the way my G36 shoots, it's a very nice subcompact semi-auto. It is super easy to conceal. However, it is very finicky about the type of ammo it likes. My XD45 has eaten all of my hand loads with no problems. The G36 will jam on every other round. I want my gun to BAM! when I squeeze the trigger. Most likely it will be sold when it comes back from Glock.
.357 magnum
December 17, 2006, 12:02 PM
I own the XD .45 Tactical and the 4 inch service model. I need to keep better track of how many rounds. But they are both into the thousands, the service model is approaching 3000. I have never had a FTF, FTE, jam or hiccup of any kind. They love all kinds of ammo. I have fired about 50 165gr +P Power-Balls with no problem. They are rated for +P ammo. I honestly can say I have not had one problem. I think you would really enjoy owning one. To the gentleman who's gun fires like it has a bent barrel-you got a lemon! Make Springfield take care of it.
The Best to You and Yours!
Frank
Ala Dan
December 17, 2006, 12:23 PM
Right up there with the Glock's and SIG's; who IMHO are #1.;) :cool: :D
HankB
December 17, 2006, 05:23 PM
Thanks, all, for the info.
I figured I could get more reliable info from folks who paid for the gun out of their own pocket rather than gun rag hacks.
SNEAKS
December 17, 2006, 11:22 PM
I own the service model and have had no problems. It has seen close to 3,000 rounds of Federal 230gr hp , Winchester 230gr hp , WWB 230GR fmj , Fiocchi 230gr fmj , and American Eagle 230gr fmj with not one problem. I have added a TLR-1 because it is my H.P. gun. I have shot it limp wrist on purpose to try for a jam and nothing. Buy one and shoot the hell out of it.
3XD9-40-45
February 4, 2007, 12:01 PM
I HAVE 3 XD A 9 - 40 - 45 I AM BY KNOW MEANS A SHARP SHOOTER , BUT
THESE ARE POINT AND SHOOT GUNS AND THAT JUST WHAT THEY DO. I HIT WHAT I AIM FOR AT 25YDS. EVERYTIME.
tango3065
February 4, 2007, 12:18 PM
Friend had one only problem was the grip safety spring broke and the factory would not sell him one and he had to send the whole gun back just for a spring.
Redhat
February 4, 2007, 12:40 PM
Get over it!
tango3065
February 4, 2007, 01:56 PM
Problem Redhat!
Redhat
February 4, 2007, 02:19 PM
None at all.
Mine works great!
Kilroy
February 4, 2007, 02:46 PM
Like most XD pistols, it'll run just fine. The single action trigger is a bit sloppy, but may be intended to mimic trigger cocking pistols.
If one takes a training class and operates the pistol under any sort of stress, be aware that a scant depression of the grip safety may cause some problems. Some stoppage clearning techniques are not possible with the XD.
Redhat
February 4, 2007, 02:49 PM
Kilroy,
That's an interesting comment about stoppage drills that won't work. Please explain?
Thanks
Lennyjoe
February 4, 2007, 07:00 PM
My 4" service has been flawless to date. I've put 500 reloads thru it using 200gr and 230gr ball and the accuracy is almost better than my Kimber Pro Carry.
Kilroy
February 4, 2007, 08:41 PM
Redhat:
There are some techniques used to clear stuck cases. Assuming that the extractor still has a hold of a case stuck in the chamber, there are specific techniques that are suitable for this situation. Having a grip safety that must be depressed before the slide can move complicates the situation.
While conducting numerous interviews of shooting range based training programs, this came up on several occasions. When I related this to a traveling instructor, he cited several occasions of seeing the same thing.
Now this applies to only the technique in question, under the circumstances already mentioned. Alterntive techniques, that allow for a depressed grip safety, work just fine.
The reason I don't go into further detail is that someone will start playing with the tecniques in question and end up causing the first situation from having scant grip safety compression.
cslinger
February 4, 2007, 08:52 PM
XD45 Compact. 100% reliable with ball and HP ammo. Not sensative to limp wristing at all and runs fine with short 10 round magazines and full size 13 rounders. Basically super reliable to this point.
Chris
Redhat
February 4, 2007, 10:12 PM
Kilroy,
Thanks and since I own an XD I'd like to know in detail. PM me if you can
Thanks
HannibalTheCrow
February 4, 2007, 10:13 PM
Well, I have an XD45 and it is extremely accurate right out of the box. And, when I say extremely, I mean it has been the most accurate pistol that I own or have ever owned.
So, maybe something wrong with the gun itself. Maybe you should have it checked out. Most everyone at the range that has one is very satisfied with how accurate it is.
tango3065
February 4, 2007, 10:45 PM
Only time will tell, we don't really know if the new polymer pistols on the market today even have the frame chemistry as Glocks which have been around since the early 80's. As for reliability I have heard mixed reviews but you get that from any product, currently they seem to be doing very well and and if they continue for twenty or so years they will be recognized up there with Sig, Glock, and HK. The XD will probably hold its own but it will take time to know the answer, Glock was dogged for many years till it revolutionized the handgun market but it took time just like everything else.
BTW I am a Glock fan and I am not a XD hater like I may come off as, but Springfield burnt my butt twice and continues to screw their customers over by not selling parts and selling guns that should not have left the factory because the need feed ramps polished, or extractor tweaking or other problems.
Kilroy
February 4, 2007, 11:02 PM
Redhat.........site said that you aren't receiving PMs.
ArkansasFatboy
February 4, 2007, 11:08 PM
I love my XD mine is a 5 inch tactical in .45acp mine is 100% reliable and more accurate than I will ever be.As a matter of fact I am considering buying another :D
ajax
February 4, 2007, 11:24 PM
My XD is the 9mm flavor but has been 100% reliable and has accepted every bullet type that I have decided to feed it and unlike a glock it fits in my hand. Sorry I had to take the shot.
History Prof
February 5, 2007, 12:08 PM
XD45 Service
Only had two issues with it, neither of which was actually the pistol.
First, when I first fired it, my thumb was hitting the slide lock, so it was locking back with rounds in the mag. Shifted my grip and solved the problem.
Second, bad batch of ammo (I know because it jammed almost ALL of my .45s, including my venerable H&K USP).
With good ammo and a good grip, I can shoot all day long and hit what I aim at.
Oh, and it is UGLY as all get-out, but that I can live with.
unlike a glock it fits in my hand.Ditto.
ammo
February 5, 2007, 12:41 PM
I can't think of a bad thing to say about the XD's I own or shot. Well, ok one thing. What the heck is that faux beaver tail grip safety all about? :)
Stil, when it comes down to function and reliabilaty, fair market price, great manufacturer support and backing...I think that XD is a very good pleaser.
tinygnat219
February 5, 2007, 01:19 PM
My XD 45ACP has over 2K rounds through it of every type and dimension. Reloads, wadcutters, brand new +P ammo. It's eaten everything I can put into it and then some. 100% reliable so far.
The trigger has gotten nicer and mine breaks at about 5.5 pounds.
It "feels" right in the hand and I don't get sore shooting 200 rounds at a time out of it.
Another model you should look at is the Taurus 24/7 45 ACP. The grip is even smaller than the XD 45ACPs, and price might be a little less.
PedalBiker
February 5, 2007, 06:33 PM
I don't own one, but rented one at my local range. I liked it, but I would recommend looking into the new ones with the compact handle. With the short mags it would be a lot smaller, and the extended mags give you the full size option.
The guys at the range said it's their #1 selling pistol, can't keep it in stock and they have a wait list.
mpmarty
February 5, 2007, 07:06 PM
I have shot IPSC, PPC, and recently IDPA and used 1911s, Smiths, HKs, SIGs and the XD45 I got out of the box is as accurate as any of the above and moreso as it seems to point quicker on followup shots. I tried Glocks but never quite felt comfortable with the twin plastic triggers, plastic wrapped magazines, chipping extractors etc. I know, lots of police officers carry them. So what does that prove? Do you know any police officers who really know anything about firearms or are competetive pistol shooters?
kid_couteau
February 5, 2007, 09:05 PM
Hi All
I just bought a brand new XD 40
I have a friend that has one and I really liked it so I got one.
One question. I noticed that his shot a bit low for me. Is it possible that it is cause I am not used to the long pull of the trigger (1911 man usually) or do I need to shoot heavier ammo to raise the impact?
Thanks
Kid
cracked junior
February 5, 2007, 10:00 PM
been flawless in over 1,000 rounds. i have lefted it in my truck at night. in the morning when its 10 degrees if not colder. it still shoots fine. i am right handed. and have shot it lefted handed. and i limp wrist horribly bad. so bad the bullet hits the dirt 5 ft infront of target. and no stove pipes. and 500 of the over thousand has been wolf fmj 230.
addecus
February 5, 2007, 10:28 PM
How far away is the target and do your shots hit the dirt in front of the target when you shoot right handed also?
skud_dusty
February 6, 2007, 12:16 AM
I don't have a ton of pistol expierence, but here's my take on things...
Couple days ago I bought my first pistol, an XD9. My first mag through, and with my horrible aim (haven't shot in a good 4 years as well) at 30ish feet I was hitting center mass easily and reliably with all 16 shells.
As a plinking gun, I absolutely adore it. It shoots predictably and reliably. Everything I've heard was either praise or someone spouting about how their Glock is better. Would I trust my life with this firearm? Hell yes, in a second.
cracked junior
February 6, 2007, 07:36 PM
my left hand just sucks for shooting. im usualy about 10 to 25 yards away from target. i usualy target shoot at a spinner type target or clays that are on the ground. my right hand shooting is ok. just left hand is bad. i have shot other handguns including revolvers and still have a weak left hand. the best way i can describe it. when i squeeze the trigger, it makes my left hand point barrel at the ground.
Aaron Staub
February 6, 2007, 08:48 PM
I have a 4" Bi-tone. The XD is my first full size 45 and I love it. I think the accuracy is outstanding and I have yet to have a malfunction in ~1k rounds of factory ammunition. Mine refuses to eat my LSWC reloads so I will be stocking up on some LRN or TC bullets instead. I can't recommend the gun highly enough.
big mason
September 26, 2010, 12:56 AM
i have a xd 45 and can consistently shoot a 3 inch group at 45 feet without a problem. have had many friends that do the same after shooting a few rounds throuh it. pumped alotta different ammo through mine and haven't had a single hiccup
oasis618
September 26, 2010, 01:26 AM
ZOMBIE THREAD!!! But my XD45 Tactical has ben 100%. Not one failure. But again...ZOMBIE!
harmon rabb
September 26, 2010, 09:15 AM
Top notch reliability, as good as anything out there. Reliability should be your last concern when buying an xd.
Utahusker
September 26, 2010, 10:54 AM
My father purchaced the XD45 tactical,all black.......looks like a glock!!!
Fires reliably with any ammo .....bout 600 rounds of various ammo to be exact.
The gun has a tendency to shoot low, even at 10' away from the target!!!!
I personally dont like the gun, neither does he..... I dont want to brag but with my glock its so accurate,even with cheap winchester, can hit a 5" target 75m away. I couldn't hit a 5" target 10' away with the XD.
The gun at best would be ok if your going to have a fire fight in the 10'-20' range.
And hope like heck you dont shoot him in the foot!!! LOL
GLOCK RULES!
I have the complete opposite experience. This pic is from yesterday at 10 yards x 13 rounds.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=6762724&postcount=18
redbullitt
September 26, 2010, 01:00 PM
have about 4k through my compact and I have actually never had a single stove pipe or hiccup with it. === my favorite pistol.
I have never had it limp wrist, but then again I have never tried to lol. As to ammo, mine has seen fmj, and hollowpoint in whatever brand walmart usually has and not been able to tell the difference. bullet wise, I have loaded magtech fmj, hornady xtps, gold dots, and and sierra hps and never had a problem either.
works just fine for me.
Steve 48
September 26, 2010, 05:15 PM
My XD shoots so well, it shoots the 1911 rejects that the $1000 pistol won't shoot.
2TransAms
September 26, 2010, 11:40 PM
Just got an XD45 Compact, and it's been dead nuts reliable, and gives me cloverleafs at 7 yards if I do my part. I think the sights are set for a 6 o'clock (lollipop) hold, since if I cover the target I hit 3-4" high at 15 yards, but it's right on if I "dot the i".
Edit: Dang, this thread is almost four years old! Oops.
Full Metal Jacket
September 27, 2010, 12:33 AM
poor accuracy that worsened the hotter the barrel got too. worst purchase i ever made. sold it at $200 loss after 700 rounds of ftf, and fte probs.
get either an m&p or glock.
harmon rabb
September 27, 2010, 06:09 AM
full metal jacket, you got a lemon. what you experienced is very far from the norm. springfield has good customer service, though -- why didn't you just send it back? they'd have made it right.
Col. Plink
January 14, 2011, 12:03 AM
Had my FIRST ftf the other day in my XD45T (after probably 3000 rnds, a handloaded swc [go figure]). This was on trying to load the first round by letting the slide go. It would run those swc's though if the first one touched off.
I was chasing a can all over the berm with it! Definitely a 6-o'clock sight picture with the XD (manuals say as much as well).
STL73
January 14, 2011, 11:47 PM
Have an XD .45, 4" full size for about two years now with zero issues. Also have an XD .40 sc, about 4 years old, also zero issues.
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