My Uberti Christmas Present


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kjeff50cal
December 16, 2006, 10:57 PM
I went to the Pasadena Gunshow today (12-16-06) to get some reasonable ammo to feed my brace of SKS (no luck) and to look in to getting a hand gun in a major caliber (see my Tanfoglio Witness thread). Not finding any bargains, I looked for a good revolver chambered in .357. I passed up a ported Taurus only to come back and it was gone. I looked across the aisle at a large spread of pistols and wheelguns all with reasonable prices and beside the RBHs I saw this.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=49438&stc=1&d=1166326708

Uberti Cattleman Millenium .357 Mag, 4 3/4" barrel for about $260(+TTL). I could not resist. It is a Colt Model P repro with the original leave one chamber empty lock work. It will be my Cowboy (I live in the Lone Star State after all)/ range toy. It will also be one of my familly property walking guns. I can't wait to take it to the range but due to the season my job wants to chain me to the gun counter until Thursday.

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paddling_man
December 16, 2006, 11:50 PM
Nice! I was bitten by that same bug recently and purchased a stainless Ruger Blackhawk in .357 with the 4-5/8" barrel. I looked at a couple of Uberti Cattlemen at the same time. Nice gun!

Good luck and have fun!

(Coincidentally, I just traded my Witness 10mm away for a stainless GP100 4". ;) )

Jim March
December 17, 2006, 04:11 AM
Well at least you understand how the safety works :).

I'm concerned that some people are buying these as a budget alternative to the Rugers/Gauchos/Stampedes and don't realize what "traditional safety" means.

jad0110
December 17, 2006, 10:05 AM
Double post, oops

jad0110
December 17, 2006, 10:07 AM
Very nice Uberti, I'm green with envy! ;)

Once I start handloading and get the hang of it for a while, a Uberti is on my short list. Oh yeah, don't worry Jim, I do understand that the Uberti does not have the transfer bar safety of the Rugers, so its load one skip one and then load the remaining 4. I used to do the same thing when I owned a Heritage 22 combo.

I was specifically looking at this model, a Cattleman 5 1/2" in the old west finish:

http://www.uberti.com/firearms/large/UB-1873CattlemanOM_OldWest.jpg

Jim (or anyone), I know the Ruger New Vaquero only simulates the case hardening. Is the case hardening on the Ubertis genuine? I've heard it was anyway.

Old Fuff
December 17, 2006, 10:49 AM
I know the Ruger New Vaquero only simulates the case hardening. Is the case hardening on the Ubertis genuine?

Yes and no... :uhoh:

You can get bone & charcoal case hardning on some models as an extra cost option. Otherwise they use a process that's similar to Ruger's, but they seem to do a lot better job of doing it, with far fewer complaints.

See: www.cimarron-firearms.com

Jim March
December 17, 2006, 01:03 PM
I really doubt any sub-$600 gun is going to have real case hardening. Ruger should NOT have ever gotten into the habit of faking it, it was just dumb.

I don't know that much about the Uberti case-color process except that the lower-end Stampede is definately fake-case.

The "Old West" finish isn't a case-color fake. It is instead artificially aged to make it look like a 100yr-old gun in mediocre cosmetic condition but still a good shooter. God knows some working cowboy guns purchased in the 1870s might have developed such a finish within the "Old West" period due to hard outdoor/trail use, but it wouldn't have been that common.

Whatever floats your boat but for me, gimme a good basic blue job that primarily protects the gun. Even the Parkerized of that lower-end finish Uberti or the kinda similar USFA Rodeo look better to me than fake case colors.

That said: Ruger apparantly changed their chemical formula on fake case. My Ruger New Vaq is fairly early (low SN:5,000s) and it's case colors are more muted than earlier large-frame Vaqueros...mine is smoky gray all over, almost no blues or reds. But unlike reports from hard users of the earlier finish, mine is NOT acting as a rust-attractant. Near as I can tell it's at least as well protected from rust as the regular blue barrel. If I'm correct and the formula has changed, I would consider that welcome even though the result no longer looks even close to authentic case-color.

Then again: the finish is my only complaint with this gun. It's mechanically solid, accurate, parts swap from other Rugers (love that SBH hammer!), the click now corresponds to a cylinder bore behind the loading gate, I can throw a Bisley or Bird's Head or whatever on there...what's not to like? Well a funky finish, that's what, but I can cope with that :).

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