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lionking
December 17, 2006, 04:28 PM
I was hoping you could answer a few questions for me please.

1# The M4 carbine pictured,are the iron sights useable even with the optic installed as seen in the photo?

2#the Ak variant in the photo,Im not sure exactly what it is?,the aperature sights on it threw me off but a improvement I'd say.

3#details on the drum magazine with the 1911 please,how many rounds does it hold and what is the lowdown on it?

4#the soldier guarding the P-40's,it looks like some kind of Mauser rifle can anyone identify?

5#the machinegun in this WW2 photo,looks too big to be a watercooled .30 can anyone identify it?

thanks

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230RN
December 17, 2006, 04:33 PM
The soldier is probably Chinese, guarding one of the aircraft of the "American Volunteer Group," AKA "The Flying Tigers," AKA the AVG, Lt Col(?) Claire Chennault Commanding.

Just a hint, 'cause I don't know what rifles the Chinese used during WWII without researching it.

mcooper
December 17, 2006, 04:35 PM
#1, the M4 looks to have an Aimpoint reddot sight. If that is te case, you can use iron sights while the aimpoint is there.

bthest86
December 17, 2006, 04:36 PM
As for the last picture of the P40 guard:

His rifle is probably a Chinese made mauser rifle known as the Hyangyang Rifle.

They're pretty obscure rifles. I've never even seen a picture of one before so I can't confirm this.

rudolf
December 17, 2006, 04:52 PM
The '1911' could also be a Star MD, full auto in 9mm Largo.

Ian
December 17, 2006, 05:34 PM
1# The M4 carbine pictured,are the iron sights useable even with the optic installed as seen in the photo?

Yep. That Aimpoint is a non-magnifying optic, so you can line up the irons right through the optic (a practice known as "co-witnessing", or aligning the optic so that both it and the irons have the same point of aim).

5#the machinegun in this WW2 photo,looks too big to be a watercooled .30 can anyone identify it?

Looks like a water-cooled .50 to me. The ammo box has the distinct "headstone" shape that M2s used, and the gun looks about the same size as other water-cooled .50s I've seen.

I don't know about the drum magazine, but that 1911 is definitely a 1911 - a Colt, in fact (you can make out the prancing pony in the rollmark on the slide).

Edit: That AK variant has me stumped. Unless I'm mistaken, that's an AR magazine in it...:confused:

MikeB
December 17, 2006, 05:47 PM
I have a 1911 drum magazine. It looks like that one, at least as far as I can tell from that picture.

It holds 25 rounds, and does not work well with lightweight 1911's. With full size all steel, it works fairly well.

bthest86
December 17, 2006, 05:55 PM
Oh yeah. The AK is a Burmese Galil.

Called EMERK3 or something like that.

lionking
December 20, 2006, 07:37 PM
thanks for the answers,I never knew of a .50 watercooled,I only knew of the M2.

Was the drum magazine for the m1911 ever used by the military or is it a civilian design?

Didn't register to me that it would be a Galil design,though the magazine looks to be 5.56mm.Im wondering how well it can keep its zero,Ive known top covers on Ak's to be rattely at times.

Hutch
December 21, 2006, 10:05 AM
I think the water-cooled 50 was the M1921. I THINK I saw one mounted to... a golf-cart... at Knob Creek in April '01. The water jacket was airbrushed with "God Bless our Second Amendment". I kid you not.

El Tejon
December 21, 2006, 11:12 AM
Hutch, yes, that's right.

lion, my grandfather manned a 1921 as a coal mine guard before WWII.:)

The man with the Burmanese variant of the Galil (lion, the Galil was originally in 5.56, the 7.62 versions were export only) looks Karin to me. May be a battlefield pick up.

As to the 1911, could it be a 1911 converted to 7.62x25 by Vietnamese gunsmiths? What do you think, Ian?:confused:

Zero_DgZ
December 21, 2006, 11:16 AM
Also, the Star BM and other Star variants do not have the grip safety that a 1911 has. Those drum mags can still be bought; There was a thread on them not so long ago, and I think Midway was selling them.

possum
December 21, 2006, 11:18 AM
1# The M4 carbine pictured,are the iron sights useable even with the optic installed as seen in the photo?

yes they are sure are i have that same exact rear sight on my m4 but with an eo-tech instead. the only peoblem you might run into with a red ot tah uses a kill flash like the aimpoint, it might make things fussy for some folks. i know i have to remove mine when zeroing and then i put it back in after i am done.

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