[thirty-thirty]

I own several Leopold scopes, most of which I've purchased used at gun shows. I've always been satisfied with them. I bought a used VX3 today and when I got it home and admired it, I noticed something missing. It doesn't say "Made in USA" like my other ones do.
Where a product is made is of paramount importance to most patriotic Americans. Non-disclosure of nation of origin is very suspicious and downright underhanded.
I've seen with other products, in anticipation of having to move to China they stop disclosing where their product is made long before they move. When fielding inquiries about whether their product is still US made they say yes. Then they move to China or some other third world cesspool.

Although I have been very satisfied with Leopold I would drop them like greased poop if they start making them all in China.

Burris scopes are still Made in USA, aren't they? Maybe that's what I need to switch to.

[VaughnT]

As I understand it, and I'm not an expert, both Leupold and Burris have lines of optics that are made overseas. Not all of their product is un-American, but some of it has to be to bring the price down.

Generally, if the glass is under $200, you can pretty much rest assured that it wasn't made by Americans. You just can't make them that cheap and pay what people here get paid.

[thirty-thirty]

Well they had better disclose whichever the nation of origin is if they expect me to buy their merchandise. Non-disclosure indicates that it isn't important to them and if so not buying from them is important to me. Has Burris stopped labeling their American made scopes "Made in USA", too?

The issue here is disclosure.

[CB900F]

Fella's;

Burris was bought by Beretta some time ago. Not all Burris products are made in America anymore.

It's my understanding that all of Leupold that has the gold ring is made in America. The Sequoia, Windriver, and other sub-sets without the gold ring are not American, but clearly labeled with the country of manufacture on them.

However, I have heard, but not personally experienced, that on line auction sellers have been caught selling pirate "Leupold" products that have nothing to do with the American company. In otherwords, thieves.

900F

[ocabj]

Generally, if the glass is under $200, you can pretty much rest assured that it wasn't made by Americans. You just can't make them that cheap and pay what people here get paid.

Yup. This is pretty much how it is. Someone stated that their VX-I was not US made. Not sure about the other VX line. The MK4 should still be made in the USA. I think Burris is also a toss up like Leupold; some are some aren't.

Bushnells and Weavers are made in Japan.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but most of the actual glass is not made in the US. It's all coming from Japan and Europe. Even if it is assembled here, it's most likely from parts imported from other countries.

[thirty-thirty]

On the Burris website, the Signature page actually says "Made in USA". The Fullfield page doesn't say.
None of the pages on the Leopold site say "Made in USA".

I emailed Leopold for an explanation.

[JohnBT]

From Leupold's Answer Guide on their site: (I added a few spaces to make the Made in the USA easy to find. The Gold Ring binocs are also Made in the USA)

How does the Rifleman compare to VX-I, VX-II or Vari-III?
The Rifleman scopes are fully coated with a coating of magnesium floride on all lens glass surfaces. The windage and elevation adjustments are a silent friction adjustment marked in 1/2" inch increments on the dial. The scopes offer a new Wide Duplex with the thin section opening being twice as open as the Standard Duplex. The scopes are matte finish with a new sleek ergonomic maintube design. The scopes are waterproof,

made in the U.S.A.

and are covered by the Leupold Lifetime Guarantee. The VX-I scopes are multicoated on the exterior eyepiece lens and the objective lens and use an industry standard coating throughout. The windage and elevation adjustments are a silent friction adjustment marked in 1/4" inch increments on the dial. The scopes offer a Standard Duplex reticle. The scopes are offered in black gloss or matte finish. The scopes are waterproof,

made in the U.S.A.

and are covered by the Leupold Lifetime Guarantee. The VX-II scopes are multicoated on the exterior eyepiece lens and the objective lens and use an industry standard coating throughout. The windage and elevation adjustments are an audible click adjustment in 1/4" inch click increments on the dial. The scopes offer mulitple reticle options. The scopes are offered in black gloss or matte finish and some models are available in silver finish. The scopes are waterproof,

made in the U.S.A.

and are covered by the Leupold Lifetime Guarantee. The Vari-X III scopes use the Leupold Multicoat 4 lens coating on all the lens glass. The windage and elevation adjustments are an audible click adjustment in 1/4" inch click increments on the dial. The scopes offer mulitple reticle options. The scopes are offered in black gloss or matte finish and some models are available in silver finish. Some models are available in a 30mm maintube. These selected hunting models, Vari-X III 1.75-6x32mm E, 2.5-8x36mm, 3.5-10x40mm, 3.5-10x50mm, 4.5-14x40mm, and 4.5-14x50mm scopes provide a simple built-in range estimating feature that uses the Duplex reticle. The scopes are waterproof,

made in the U.S.A.

and is covered by the Leupold Lifetime Guarantee.

[thirty-thirty]

Thanks John. Do you have a link? I just looked again and still can't find it. The "answer" link takes me to a search page where I entered "made in usa" and found nothing relevant.

[Cortland]

There are Chinese counterfeit Leupold scopes out there. Check out this guy on e-bay:

http://stores.ebay.com/Sunclear-trading

Specifically look at the "mid-range" scopes. It wouldn't surprise me to see fake Leupolds turning up at gunshows, too.

[Lone_Gunman]

I saw some Leupold scopes at Wal-Mart a few weeks ago, and just assumed that they must have been made in China since they were being sold at Wal-Mart.

[HGUNHNTR]

There are only about 4 lens makers in the world currently, with all of them eing in Europe, and Japan. Made in the USA Leupold scopes are actually assembled in USA, as not all of their components are made in the United States. I for one wouldn't switch brands because of its country of origin. You will not find any scope made that has all of its components fabricated in the USA. Guess you better get good at using iron sights.

[hksw]

IMO, there are quite a few more lens makers (for shooting optics) that don't reside in Europe and Japan. For mid to high end optics, Europe and Japan are probably the sources that gets this business. For low end stuff like BSA, Barska, Leapers, etc. there are plenty of poor optics being made right where the scopes are built in China.

[HGUNHNTR]

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