Gun racks in trucks, dumb?


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WonderNine
May 26, 2003, 10:23 AM
I never understand why people keep rifles in gun racks in their truck. Or ever HAVE a gun rack. Do they want to advertise to everyone around, "hey, here's some guns to steal." Why not keep them behind the seat, in a zippered rifle sleeve or something? :D

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45-auto
May 26, 2003, 10:29 AM
Depends on where you live, I guess.

I've lived really rural and gunracks were common and most often had whatever longarm fit the season riding in them.

You get very urban and it's probably not a good idea.

Hkmp5sd
May 26, 2003, 10:34 AM
Use to keep rifles in a gun rack behind the seat in my pickup. Around here, one displayed in the window of an unattended truck would be MIA pretty quick.

J Miller
May 26, 2003, 10:37 AM
Some years back when I lived in Arizona I had rifle rack in the window of my truck. I did ocassionally cary rifles there.
Most of the time coats, hats, and other tools hung off of them.

Most people that I knew that had these racks did so because they had the older trucks that had gas tanks behind the seats.
Ford and GM didn't go away from that till the late 70's in most cases.
With a tank behind the seat, there is no room for guns or anything else.
I have noticed that since the tanks were removed from the cab, gun racks have begun to disapear.

Also a lot of people live in areas that are gun oriented. They don't have to be paranoid about someone breaking into their trucks to steel things.
Not like those in citys.

I see nothing wrong with in cab gun racks. However here in IL a cab gun rack is more of a hat rack, or fishing pole rack than a gun rack.
How I long to escape to the real world.

justice4all
May 26, 2003, 10:56 AM
It depends on where you are. There are still large parts of this great country where everyone knows everybody, and no one locks their doors, or even removes the key from the ignition.

WonderNine
May 26, 2003, 10:57 AM
I have a 1977 Chevy. Lots of room behind the seat. I know all the extended cabs nowadays have even more.

Sisco
May 26, 2003, 11:03 AM
We used to call them "Easy Rider rifle racks" :D
I have one in my hunting truck, only time it has anything in it is when I'm going hunting or to the range.

jmbg29
May 26, 2003, 11:14 AM
In the time and place where I grew up, we were able to live as human beings. Thieves/liberals/Demorats/et al., had zero impact on the way we lived our lives. Where we did, or did not place our personal property wasn't anyone else's business.

The time? The 60'-70s. The place? Western Massachewsh*ts.

The People's Demoratik Kommunewealth of Massachewsh*ts has since become an intolerable socialist hellhole, and (thank God) I no longer live there.

I prefer to live as a human being. If others choose to live according to the consensus of the collective, or choose to let thieves et al. influence their lives, so be it.

:scrutiny: :uhoh: :barf:

TechBrute
May 26, 2003, 11:21 AM
Getting a rifle in the back of the head in an accident has never been my idea of fun. www.truckvault.com

TimH
May 26, 2003, 11:32 AM
You took the words right out of my mouth TechBrute. At a class for insurance rate reduction our instuctor told about a woman that was severely injured from a Kleenex box hitting her head in an accident.

dairycreek
May 26, 2003, 11:34 AM
The rifle racks in the rear window of pickups around here (rural Oregon) serve multiple purposes. Carrying a rifle or a shot gun for the variety of hunting seasons we have around here is a pretty common practice. Remember I said "rural Oregon". Not so common in the larger cities. For me, those same racks carry fishing rods during trout, salmon, and steelhead seasons. Of course theft is always a possiblity but (sigh) such are the times in which we live. Good shooting (and fishing too);)

dinosaur
May 26, 2003, 01:31 PM
With all the equipment that police cars carry today, there was a discussion of where to put a long gun. A Pa. trooper I believe was killed when he was involved in a collision and the gun hit him in the head. It was in a rack attached to the cage behind the seat. Even a fishing reel could be deadly.

444
May 26, 2003, 01:50 PM
I don't have a rifle rack in my truck, but I have often thought about getting one. First of all, I live in one of those areas where no one would give it a second glance. But the reason for it is that I like to drive off road. I am not talking about anything radical like rock crawling or anything. Nevada has thousands of miles of dirt roads with interesting things like ghost towns, old mines, mountains etc. I also drive these dirt roads coyote hunting. When I am driving off road, I always take a gun and this gun is often a rifle. I guess I must also point out for those that have never been to rural Nevada, that it is very easy to be sitting 50 miles from the nearest house, so nothing about this is particularly irresponsible. If they can conduct above ground nuclear testing, I can safely fire a rifle. Anyway, I usually have the rifle out and ready to go. Usually I don't have a round chambered but the magazine is loaded. I might see a long range jackrabbit, a coyote, or even a rock that looks like fun to try to lob rounds into. I don't want to stop the truck, get out a gun case etc. The downside to what I do now is that the rifle is free to roll around the truck. When I brake, I have to grab the rifle, same with turns etc. I think it would be great to have it in a rack secured. This would be safer and easier on the rifle. Same goes for deer hunting. When you are hunting an area measured in hundreds of square miles, it isn't unusual to scout the area in your truck. I personally don't shoot from the truck, but if I see a deer, I want to get out and try to put a stalk on it. I don't want to have to jump through six hoops to get my rifle out.

firestar
May 26, 2003, 02:47 PM
I never understood gun racks either. There many reasons why I wouldn't put guns in a gun rack.
1. The sun will damage them if left there long enough.
2. they are very secured there and they can rattle around and maybe fall out if you hit a bump or have an accident.
3. Advertising guns to people is never a good idea.
4. They might get stolen.
5. People will think you are a hick.
6. People will think you are a show off tool who wants to be a cowboy, I know that is what I think.
7. Why give cops any more reason to pull you over?
8. You will have to take them down and remove the gun rack when you go into certain cities or areas.
9. The guns will get dusty and full of dog hair (in my car they would).
10. They really are no faster to access then if the were in a zippered case behind the seat.

Feanaro
May 26, 2003, 03:09 PM
Gun racks in the car make you look like a hillbilly. But if you live near hillbilly country then you'll blend right in. ;)

TallPine
May 26, 2003, 04:02 PM
Around here, folks are even more likely to wave at you when you have a rifle in the rack in your pickup window. Don't know why that is, but it shows you how normal it is considered. Kind of makes you a real "local" I guess.

I don't usually, unless I am going camping or hunting. I don't like to leave a rifle in the pickup overnight, and I don't just routinely stick one in there when I go somewhere.

But as far as the rack itself, how do you live without it? Sure makes a good place to stick a half-used roll of TP - can't go off anywhere without that! :)

plainsman66
May 26, 2003, 04:25 PM
it's real common in this area(small town-rural)to see racks with rifles in the back window,I have one myself with a cable that runs through the trigger guard to "slow down"any potential theft.

HBK
May 26, 2003, 05:20 PM
When I was a kid and this was a semi-free country, my dad worked at the elementary school I attended. He had a gun rack with two sweet shotguns in it. He had them in there all the time, even when he was at school. No one thought anything about it then.

Ala Dan
May 26, 2003, 05:27 PM
Greeting's All-

Well, maybe I am a little "old fashioned" but I
don't condone leaving firearms in vechiles
period!:rolleyes: You see, during my days as a
LEO we were constantly taking B&E of vechile
report's where a firearm was taken. And in a
few cases, the firearm was used on the
owner of the weapon.:uhoh: It's a darn good
idea to remove all firearm's from any
type vechile that is going to be left unattended;
even boat's!

Just my $.02 worth~

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

444
May 26, 2003, 05:38 PM
Notice that it seems very hard for most people to differentiate the concept of having a rifle RACK in the truck (what was asked in this thread) with having a RIFLE in it.
Maybe when you buy one you have to agree from that point on to never be without a rifle again. They don't allow you just to have the rack.


Oh, no ! People will think I am a hillbilly. That would just devastate me. I base my whole self worth on what other people think. And I spent so much for this hairstyle and outfit. :barf:

Standing Wolf
May 26, 2003, 05:59 PM
Years ago when I had a pick-up truck, I put a gun rack in it. Although I rarely carried guns in it, I found it useful for carrying all kinds of other junk.

444
May 26, 2003, 06:13 PM
I have always gotten a lot of entertainment out of this whole hillbilly thing. I don't believe I fall into either stereotype catagory; I work in a city of well over a million people, but live in a relatively small town where high school rodeo is broadcast on our only TV station. I grew up outside a small town right along the Ohio/West Virginia boarder, but also at one time lived in Los Angeles. So I have seen what both have to offer.
Everytime I see someone look down their nose and call someone a hillbilly, a hick, a redneck or whatever, I get a good laugh. This guy paid a king's ransom for a postage stamp sized lot in a crime ridden, air polluted, crowded, over taxed, dump where pretty much all vestiges of freedom have been given up; and he considers himself superior to that guy ? Based on where they both live ? Or even better, based on something like having a rifle rack in their truck ?

Greybeard
May 26, 2003, 06:43 PM
Another check-in from "the good old days". Gun racks were common where I grew up in northeastern Texas Panhandle and western Oklahoma. Handy for not just guns, but as others have said, hats, ropes, fishin' poles (yea, call me a redneck, ;) come on!), etc. in the pre-extended-cab days.

I was back there "in God's country" on opening day of pheasant season just a few years back. We pulled into parking lot to go into a small town church for their annual "fundraising lunch". My buddy, who still farms and ranches there, got out of his pickup, leaving the keys in the ignition, our shotguns in the front, and both windows rolled down. I asked if he was going to lock it and he replied "We don't have to do that ---- here."

On second thought though, due to all the "out of towners", I've since convinced him to lock it up ... Ya never know what might happen with some opportunistic big-city slob ... :banghead:

P95Carry
May 26, 2003, 06:48 PM
444....... you just made the distinction I was going to! I certainly agree that for the most part, guns left in truck is bad news ...... invite to theft etc .... tho again ... there has to be the further distinction between areas etc .. such a vast difference in conditions.

My area is well hunting oriented and I doubt many give a second glance to a rifle on a rack in a truck .... tho not so many people do it these days. In my case, even tho extended cab, I have racks ... the removable type, tho they stay there. They have elastic restrainers on each hook.

The rear window is smoked glass ... and they do not show that obviously from outside, plus, as others have said, they serve for fishing rods, occasional coat hook etc .... so mine stay put, usually wherever I go.

As far as dangers go, well .. rather aware of that and so really only use mine very occasionally when out in the sticks as against on main highway.

Kaylee
May 26, 2003, 07:16 PM
They make trucks without gun racks? I thought they were standard equipment.... :confused:









:D

-K

Schuey2002
May 26, 2003, 07:23 PM
The rifle racks in the rear window of pickups around here (rural Oregon) serve multiple purposes. Carrying a rifle or a shot gun for the variety of hunting seasons we have around here is a pretty common practice. Remember I said "rural Oregon".

"Rural Oregon" is a cool place to live, isn't it? :D

Fish Springs
May 26, 2003, 07:56 PM
Things my rifle rack has held:

1. long guns: rifles and shotguns
2. hats
3. lariat
4. gloves
5. usgs topo maps
6. fly rod
7. ice axe
8. crampons
9. rope and gear rack
10. rain gear
11. umbrella
12. bagette
13. portable tape player--great hanger for head sets
14. morning paper
15. cattle prod
16. quirt
17. swim suit
18. lunch in a bag
19. canteen
20. tripod
21. wire cutters
22. an old mauser chambered for a fun wildcat--bait?


But, I am from Idaho and now live in Texas...what would I know?

BlkHawk73
May 26, 2003, 08:01 PM
I never really understood this either. I especially like those people that keep their guns in tham when there's nothing in season. Either they gotta boost thier machismo or it's a hood prop.

To me they are just an advertisement saying "Hey, I gotta gun in easy access...want it!"

jacketch
May 26, 2003, 08:02 PM
Every time I see a gunrack I am reminded of the guy who was pulling a shotgun from the rack and it went off killing him. Now that was a big oops.

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
May 26, 2003, 08:37 PM
20 years ago I noticed the decline in the number of gun racks in pickup cabs around my home area of east Texas. Usually, if they held a longarm, it was a model 94 or a shotgun of some provenance. Mostly, they were used for a handly place for ropes (aka lariats), pigging strings (ask a real cowboy), gloves, spare hats/caps, maybe a cane pole, and usually, depending on the age of the truck owner, a sturdy 'stock cane' or hot-shot.

I attributed the decline in sightings to the encroaching urbanization and rising crime/theft rate in the area.

Now that I have my grandfather's '69 Ford F100, I have been considering adding a rack to the cab. My grandfather used to carry his Benjamin air rifle in the open space of the seatback in his truck, but all that jute backing and open wire cage that suported the cushioning took quite a toll \on the finish of the old pumper. Yes, there is a gas tank mounted in the cab directly behind the seat that runs to within 5 inches of the bottom of the rear window. Trouble is, in DFW I'd never put a longarm in said rack, and with a toolbox in the bed why should I bother loading up an already cramped cab with more stuff? Besides, the only new rack I've seen for sale in the last 2 years was one of the plastic variety that won't hold its' own weight up when you hit a rairoad crossing too fast, let alone the weight of a M94.

Regards,
Rabbit.

redneck2
May 26, 2003, 08:37 PM
before you had to worry about every punk stealing your stuff and getting away with it. We never locked the house.

we used to have a rack in the pick-up on the farm.

Trust me...my dad wasn't a guy that would try to impress anyone with an old .22

It was there mainly for varmints...groundhogs, skunks, etc. And yes, there was a gas tank that took up the room behind the seat.

Fish Springs
May 26, 2003, 08:44 PM
Jacketch,

Gee...the only person I knew who experienced a self-inflicted long gun injury was pulling a loaded Browning shot gun from the back seat of his Buick--booom!

Maybe the second set of doors on sedans are leathal?

Not many living people carry chambered rounds in long guns, back seat or gun rack.:banghead:

Horsesense
May 26, 2003, 08:55 PM
I'd like to find a good three-gun rack like they use to make. With a three-gun rack the bottom gun can't be seen. The SKS is getting scratched up and it takes forever to get it out from under the stuff that accumulates on top of it behind the seat. My other truck is an extended cab and the gun rack would be out of reach in it.

If'n I find one I will hang an old beat up Mauser in it and be good to go.

I'm big on security and would never hang one in the open.

444
May 26, 2003, 08:55 PM
Notice how the decline in the use of truck gun racks has followed the decline of our society as a whole.

mummac
May 26, 2003, 10:41 PM
In my old truck, I had an umbrella on the gunrack. It came in handy when I would cart around my grandmother. I live in the city so toting a gun around like that wouldn't be too smart. A guy i worked with showed up to the jobsite (an office building we were replacing some lights in) after a weekend of hunting with a shotgun in his rack. The boss didn't like it too much. That guy was pretty cool. He'd go rabit hunting with a bow!

Smoke
May 26, 2003, 11:10 PM
I used to put a gunrack on a pickup as soon as I got it. They are extremely handy for guns and other stuff. The way they make piclups now, at least the one I own, the back window is no longer a convienent place for one. In the old days before extended cabs it was the best place for one.

I still put a gun rack in my pickups, now it resides in the lockable across the bed toolbox. Out of sight. Won't bash me in a crash. More accesable than the back window.

And there are still some places in America where you can leave your gun in your truck, keys in the ignition, windows rolled down, and not have to worry about a dang thing. There are still honest people living in good places and I am fortunate to be in one of them.

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
May 27, 2003, 04:16 AM
Yeah, you've got it pretty good over in Bosque County, Smoke.

Regards,
Rabbit.

mummac
May 27, 2003, 04:42 AM
Fish Springs, I forgot to ask: what is "16. quirt"

Smoke
May 27, 2003, 10:49 AM
mummac,

A quirt is a short whip made with a loop in the end to go around your wrist. Ususally used when training young horses.

Sylvilagus Aquaticus,

You are familier with Bosque County? Leave the big city and come shoot sometime....

TallPine
May 27, 2003, 11:22 AM
Hey guys, in a few more years the EcoNazis will have outlawed pickups so you won't have nothin to put a "dumb" gun rack in anyhow.

As for me, they can have my 3/4 ton when they pry the four speed lever from my cold dead fingers.

Moron Labe - "come and take it, you idiot"

Greg L
May 27, 2003, 11:37 AM
Not many living people carry chambered rounds in long guns, back seat or gun rack.

Oh, I don't know about that Fish Springs. Over in L&P here (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23576) one of our very own moderators came up with this beauty:

I've had several cops want to safe my weapons over the years during traffic stops. I've yet to see one who knew how to handle a 1911 cocked and locked, an AR 15, or a M1 Garand.
:eek:

Of course the question then becomes what he was doing running around with all that hardware ready to go. :scrutiny:

Greg :D

jmbg29
May 27, 2003, 12:43 PM
Oh, I don't know about that Fish Springs. Over in L&P here one of our very own moderators came up with this beauty:I've had several cops want to safe my weapons over the years during traffic stops. I've yet to see one who knew how to handle a 1911 cocked and locked, an AR 15, or a M1 Garand. Of course the question then becomes what he was doing running around with all that hardware ready to go. Where does it say that the long guns were loaded? If it said AR 15 locked and loaded, or something like that, I guess I would agree.

cratz2
May 27, 2003, 06:28 PM
Even as late as the late 80s, even in urban areas in Texas it was not uncommon to see a rack with a couple long guns in the back window of a pickup truck. I never did it though.

I'm sure in more rural areas, there are plenty of long guns still hanging around clearly visible in vehicles.

JackM
May 28, 2003, 12:49 AM
Gun racks were standard equipment in Saskatchewan, when it was in a free and civilized country, B.T. (Before Trudeau).

Bye
Jack

Rickstir
May 28, 2003, 11:13 AM
No, if I lived in a urban area I wouldn't carry guns in a rack either. I would lock my doors, even if I was in the house. But I don't live in an urban area, alas I am a hick. And it took years of saving and finding the right job so I could become an ex-urban. Three more correspondence courses and I'll be a certified hick. In Missouri its called one of the forms of "open carry". Right off any LEO will know you have a weapon. In our little hick town, people don't give it second thought. We also don't lock our doors much either, what with a chorous of four large dogs to great anyone who dares drive down our gravel road let alone pull in our driveway. When you don't live in a den of theives, you can relax a little. We carry them all the time because you never know when you are going to have to dispatch a deer that has been injured by a car (twice for me). Also if you have poultry, possums, coons, and foxes are open season all the time and they don't necessarly have to be on my property. It's called a gun rack, not a hat rack. Mine has bungy cords to keep the weapon in place. No round in the pipe. Carry a Marlin 336 in .35 cal and either a 12 or .410 gauge shotgun.

jmbg29
May 28, 2003, 11:43 AM
I it really any wonder to anyone on this board why our rights are going straight down the tubes?

OH!!!! You have a gun rack, you ignorant hick you!



:barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf:




What I wouldn't give to go back to a time when everybody had the good sense to mind their own damn business. :banghead:

TallPine
May 28, 2003, 01:05 PM
What I wouldn't give to go back to a time when everybody had the good sense to mind their own damn business.

Me too, except I'm not sure it ever existed ...

People are just finding different business of other people to poke their nose into.

In the 50s it was your - um, relational behavior, and now it is your diet, what you smoke, what kind of vehicle you drive, and what kind of rack you put in it.

Ever hear that old Hank Williams (Senior) song: "... if you mind your own business then you won't be mindin' mine"

OMG: I am not only a "hick" - I am an old hick :)

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