Another strange shooting in Albuquerque


James NM
December 18, 2006, 04:42 PM
Is it just me or is this really weird?

Police: Chat Room Leads To Two Deaths

Police said a meeting in a chat room may have led to two deaths in Albuquerque, Sunday.Albuquerque Police said the incident started around 2:00 a.m. on Sunday when a man and woman met in an online chatroom. The two apparently agreed to meet at Menaul and University Boulevard. Police said the woman agreed to go back to the man's mobile home near Blake Road Southwest, to "dance" for him. According to police, after about an hour, the woman's boyfriend, who was waiting in the car, became concerned and went to the mobile home. Investigators said the man inside pulled a gun, and the boyfriend, who also had a gun, fired in self defense, killing the man. The boyfriend eventually found his girlfriend, who according to police, was dead and bound with duct tape.

Investigators are not saying what type of agreement the man and woman made online.

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Double Naught Spy
December 18, 2006, 05:05 PM
It isn't normal, but not weird. A guy contracted a prostitute in a chat room, only the guy was some sort of murderer/psycho sort of guy. When the prostitute didn't come out in an expected amount of time, the pimp or bodyguard got suspcious, made entry, and a gun fight ensued.

That is just my interpretation, but I know the areas mentioned in the incident.

December 18, 2006, 06:12 PM
I just saw this story on the local TV news, and they mentioned that the Bernalillo County Sheriff's Office is investigating as to whether the "killed killer" was a serial murderer.

Prince Yamato
December 18, 2006, 07:53 PM
I used to live in Albuquerque. Honestly, in New Mexico, there is no such thing as "strange". In fact, things out of the ordinary are just expected. Case comparison: Area 51 in Nevada vs. Roswell.

Area 51: "oooh, there's big conspiracy by us oooh! Scary"

Roswell: "Yeah, the UFO crashed over there, want some green chile?" :D

James NM
December 19, 2006, 01:57 PM

Tuesday, December 19, 2006

Slain Man Catches Attention of Police

By Jeff Proctor and T.J. Wilham
Copyright © 2006 Albuquerque Journal; Journal Staff Writers
Investigators are trying to determine whether there is a connection between a man they say lured to and fatally strangled a woman inside his South Valley mobile home and several missing prostitutes in Bernalillo County.
Police describe the death of 19-year-old Shericka Hill as "brutal," "orchestrated" and "very violent."
The alleged killer, identified as Lorenzo Montoya, 39— subsequently shot to death by Hill's boyfriend— has a history of picking up prostitutes and allegedly raped and choked one of them.
Hill's killing has gotten the attention of the city's top cops.
"There is good probability that this isn't the first time (Montoya) has done a crime like this," Police Chief Ray Schultz said. "This is too brutal of a crime to be his first one."
Police say the woman's boyfriend, Fredrick Williams, 18, had waited outside Montoya's mobile home while Hill "performed a dance." They say Williams went to check on the woman after about an hour and shot Montoya during a confrontation.
In one previous incident, Montoya was arrested after allegedly raping and choking a prostitute, according to court records. The case was later dismissed.
Bernalillo County Sheriff Darren White shares Schultz's concerns. His detectives are looking into a possible connection between Montoya and two active missing persons cases involving women.
"We are all very concerned about it," White said. "This isn't the type of crime where you wake up one morning and just decide that you are going to brutally murder someone."
Moreover, APD detectives said they are investigating whether Montoya may be responsible for "several" prostitutes who have been reported missing since 2001.
Local authorities are also casting a wider net: checking with out-of-state law enforcement agencies for similar crimes.
According to police, the incident unfolded as follows on Sunday, beginning around 2 a.m.:
Montoya and Hill began a conversation in a chat room and agreed to meet in person. During the meeting, they arranged for Hill to go to Montoya's mobile home in the 4000 block of Blake SW and perform a dance for him.
On her way to the mobile home, Hill picked up Williams. The pair parked a short distance away, and Hill went inside.
After waiting about an hour Williams, who was armed, became concerned and went to check on Hill. Outside the mobile home, he encountered Montoya, who brandished a gun.
Feeling "threatened," Williams fired at least one shot, killing Montoya.
Police haven't determined whether Montoya shot at Williams.
Williams went inside to check on Hill, where he found her bound with duct tape and strangled.
Investigators are awaiting results of an autopsy to determine whether Hill had been sexually assaulted.
"You don't see this type of violent act committed the way it was," Schultz said. "It seemed like he knew what he was doing. It was very well planned and orchestrated, and that is what is worrisome about this."
According to court records, Montoya was arrested in 1999 on rape and kidnapping charges after he allegedly picked up a prostitute and sexually assaulted her inside his truck.
Afterward, Montoya slammed the woman against her seat, put his hands around her throat and choked her.
The 23-year-old prostitute told police she couldn't breathe and thought Montoya "was going to kill her." The woman also said it appeared that Montoya was "enjoying choking her."
The case was dismissed without prejudice in Metropolitan Court but was never refiled.
Montoya has also been arrested twice— in 1998 and 2005— on suspicion of patronizing a prostitute.
Albuquerque Police Sgt. Carlos Argueta said the investigation into Sunday's double homicide and Montoya's past will continue despite Montoya's death.
He said several APD units— including sex crimes, vice and cold case— are assisting. Specifically, detectives are combing through old homicide, rape and missing persons files looking for similarities to Sunday's slaying.
"We are looking at this from all different angles," Argueta said. "In the next few weeks, we are going to be dissecting every part of this person's background."

The article doesn't say what is happening with the good samaritan (I mean pimp). I doubt carrying a gun & shooting a customer in his line of work is legal - even in New Mexico:what:

December 19, 2006, 02:09 PM
I have had to gag each time the news media here in Albuquerque describes Williams as her "boyfriend". What boyfriend allows his beloved to go into a stranger's trailer to "perform a dance"?

Glad that we won't be wasting tax dollars for a trial for the pervert/murderer, but this story does make you scratch your head and wonder what this world is coming to.

December 19, 2006, 03:08 PM
is from New Mexico.. which might explain how I've managed to stay married all these years (24 at the last accounting) ... the odd is just not that unusual to her.


December 19, 2006, 03:31 PM
I know a couple strippers and boyfriends of strippers who had a similar arrangement. They went to the house. The friend or boyfriend stayed outside and either came back at a pre-determined time or listened in on the (active) cellphone to make sure everything was OK.

The routine went something like this:

"Hi! I'm Avalon, and this is my associate Bruno."
"Do not touch Miss Avalon. Miss Avalon will dance for one hour. I will return in fifty minutes. Do not touch Miss Avalon."

December 19, 2006, 04:09 PM
Sounds exactly like what tellner said. Either his girlfriend is a stripper, or of course, they could be swingers in the since that they occasionally hook up with other people for sex. Strange compared to what most of us do, but entirely normal in the range of things people do. Alot of people have had sex with someone they are not "going out with" or married to. They just didn't let their spouse know about it. Alot of people have had sex with more than one person at the same time. Happens. It's just most people, regardless don't make a life style, or a career out of it.

Granted, this... arrangement certainly sounds rather shady. And if this is a boyfriend/girlfriend thing, I feel sorry for the boyfriend.

I don't know what I'd do if I walked in on the guy that killed my fiancee and was sticking tape on her corpse. (Well, I kinda do know)

Byron Quick
December 19, 2006, 04:27 PM
The article doesn't say what is happening with the good samaritan (I mean pimp). I doubt carrying a gun & shooting a customer in his line of work is legal - even in New Mexico

To judge from the article, the police have not found any grounds to charge him with anything. Must not have been a convicted felon. Sounds as if the police think it was self defense, too.

December 19, 2006, 04:30 PM
Sounds like a typical sociopathic would-be serial killer using the internet to meet victims. Fortunately, he won't be doing it again.

December 19, 2006, 04:42 PM
Yes Virginia, there are werewolves. They look like men but aren't and eat our kind. You can sometimes tell it in the eyes.

The Real Wyatt
December 19, 2006, 05:54 PM
From the New Mexico State hangun regulations:
It is unlawful for a person under 19 to possess or transport a handgun, except when the person is:

attending a hunter's or handgun safety course;
engaged in target shooting or in organized competition;
legal hunting or trapping;
participating in or practicing for a performance by a nonprofit organization formed under I.R.S. Code § 501(c)(3);
traveling with an unloaded handgun to or from legalized activities;
on real property under the control of the under 19 person's parent, grandparent, or guardian and while under their supervision.

Can't but help wondering if the New Mexico State Police cut the 18 year old shooter a break.

December 19, 2006, 07:22 PM
Erich might chime in at any time since he is the expert, but I have noticed that New Mexico law enforcement tends to turn a blind eye toward "administrative" violations of NM law concerning firearms possession when the shoot is justifiable self-defense. Several years before the enactment of CCW there was a case not far from my home when a jogger produced a concealed weapon and shot an attacker. He was not charged with any crime.

Fortunately, law enforcement doesn't freak out in the presence of a firearm.

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