Archie Bunker On Gun Control


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limbaughfan
December 21, 2006, 10:24 AM
heres a clip of Archie Bunker talking about gun control.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLjNJI54GMM&mode=related&search=
He had some great ideas

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doubleg
December 21, 2006, 10:44 AM
:D :D :D

SAKOHUNTER
December 21, 2006, 11:02 AM
Gotta love it!:D

one-shot-one
December 21, 2006, 11:28 AM
is where gloria is telling arch about how many peopke are killed by guns each year and achie said "well little girl would it make you feel any better if they were pushed out of windows?"
the producers and director tried to make archie look like a fool but i think they failed.

rustymaggot
December 21, 2006, 11:40 AM
unless im mistaken, didnt archie get robbed at gunpoint at the end of that episode?

limbaughfan
December 21, 2006, 12:53 PM
well he should have been "packin a rod" as he would say.

1 old 0311
December 21, 2006, 01:16 PM
Really can't flaw the logic!

Geno
December 21, 2006, 01:21 PM
:D Too funny!

350HO
December 21, 2006, 07:17 PM
:) :D

ChestyP
December 21, 2006, 07:20 PM
was rabidly anti-gun, more so after his addict son committed suicide with one. O'Connor was ridiculing his view of bedrock, redneck America with the Bunker character.

High Planes Drifter
December 21, 2006, 07:26 PM
Yep. Chesty's right on that one. O'Connor was big-time anti. Its funny, he always played a pro gun conservative on TV. Anyone remember "Heat Of The Night" ?

mustanger98
December 21, 2006, 07:33 PM
Me and my family- we were big Chief Bill Gillespie fans.

Stevie-Ray
December 21, 2006, 09:17 PM
unless imepisode? mistaken, didnt archie get robbed at gunpoint at the end of that Yup, by a guy that saw his "equal time" opinion on the news. He even quoted him before robbing him.

Zundfolge
December 21, 2006, 09:35 PM
Carroll O'Connor was rabidly anti-gun, more so after his addict son committed suicide with one. O'Connor was ridiculing his view of bedrock, redneck America with the Bunker character.

All in the Family has always bothered me because it was clearly a bunch of Hollyweird elitist liberals lampooning the common man. Same reason I can't stand Garrison Keeler and his Prairie Home Companion. These people hate the common American and take every opportunity to make fun of us and put us down and we lap it up and chuckle like idiots.

I also never found All in the Family all that funny ... more sad than funny (of course I have the same problem with The Honeymooners).

mustanger98
December 21, 2006, 09:39 PM
I can see where they had an agenda with All In The Family. I don't see it with The Honeymooners. The latter's just classic comedy and I've always thought, as far as their work went, that Jackie Gleason and Art Carney were hilarious together. If I had more background info on Gleason's and Carney's politics, I might see it.

Zundfolge
December 21, 2006, 10:07 PM
I don't believe there was a political agenda to The Honeymooners, I simply have the same reaction to the show (that its more sad than funny).

I just don't find dysfunctional families full of people yelling at each other to be all that funny.

DogBonz
December 21, 2006, 10:35 PM
A fat, bald, old, paraniod, racist, white guy as a pro 2a vioce. Oh, yea... that'll win us some votes.

Why don't we spend our time talking about the young professional, the eldrey grand ma type who refuses to be a victim, the middle aged guy with a family to protect or the guy in a wheelchair who packs as good pro 2A vioces? The war to preserve our 2a rights, and make no mistake about it, because it is a war, is furthered on our side by facts and reason. The character that is Archie Bunker is anything but. Amti's and fence-sitters read this site, make no doubts about it, and while we may not stand a chance of winning over any anti's, we can get the fence-sitters, and there is no better way to disgust a fence sitter than with the racist BS that spills from that character's mouth.

Please, for all of our sakes: Think, then speak. (or write, or type, or etc..)

limbaughfan
December 21, 2006, 10:47 PM
Archie Bunker was a funny man,and wheather you know it or not he kinda does portray the way a good percentage of people act.

doubleg
December 21, 2006, 11:09 PM
If everyone in america carried a gun crime would STOP completley. It would be a utopia of polite honest people.

JLStorm
December 21, 2006, 11:12 PM
If everyone in america carried a gun crime would STOP completley. It would be a utopia of polite honest people

I have never understood why most people dont seem to understand this concept.

Zundfolge
December 22, 2006, 12:31 AM
Archie Bunker was a funny man,and wheather you know it or not he kinda does portray the way a good percentage of people act.
No, Archie Bunker was a mean spirited caricature of what leftist elitists want you to believe a good percentage of common Americans act.

The entire purpose of his character is to discredit conservativism through ridicule and lampooning.

mljdeckard
December 22, 2006, 12:42 AM
Zundfolge is absolutely correct. This is an example of Hollywood trying to save us from ourselves.

ArfinGreebly
December 22, 2006, 01:16 AM
. . . purpose of his character is to discredit conservativism through ridicule and lampooning.

And then there's Boston Legal. Again, the attempt to portray the liberal stance as heroic, and the conservative stance as buffoonery.

I'm not sure they've succeeded with Denny Crane.

At our house, Denny Crane (buffoonery and all) just plain rocks.

Speer
December 22, 2006, 01:22 AM
No, Archie Bunker was a mean spirited caricature of what leftist elitists want you to believe a good percentage of common Americans act.

Right.

Hook686
December 22, 2006, 01:36 AM
Today, 12:12 AM #20
JLStorm


wrote:



If everyone in america carried a gun crime would STOP completley. It would be a utopia of polite honest people

I have never understood why most people dont seem to understand this concept.


Yeah ... kinda like Iraq, all them folks with guns really make for a nice polite society. How do you sort out the good guys with guns, from the bad guys with guns, by the color of their hat, or the names on their bumper sticker ? :scrutiny:

I happen to think if everyone had a gun and an armed robbery took place, everybody would be shooting at everybody else, once the first shot was fired.

ArfinGreebly
December 22, 2006, 02:20 AM
Sorry?
Yeah ... kinda like Iraq, all them folks with guns really make for a nice polite society.
The citizenry is not armed. The extremists are.

I happen to think if everyone had a gun and an armed robbery took place, everybody would be shooting at everybody else, once the first shot was fired.
Interesting way of imagining it.

My own vision is somewhat different. Given the choice, I'll be one of the armed crowd. Seems to me, it would truly suck to be a robber in a society of armed citizens. A guy could seriously get hurt. The usual "we've got 10 minutes before the cops can get here" would no longer apply. Armed response is pretty much always on hand.

I have great faith in the ability of people to work out a protocol that keeps society civilized when the disparity of force has been eliminated.

But that's me. It's all speculation, but it's my speculation.

I won't deny your right to speculate, I just disagree with what you see.

doubleg
December 22, 2006, 02:46 AM
I happen to think if everyone had a gun and an armed robbery took place, everybody would be shooting at everybody else, once the first shot was fired.:)

Thats exactley the point. No one would even THINK of robbing a bank because as soon as they did there would be a bank full of people pointing guns at them.

Steelharp
December 22, 2006, 02:50 AM
The first time we as a family saw "All in the Family," we laughed till we cried...

... because "Archie" WAS my Uncle Dick Mattison, through and through, accent and all. We always thought "Meathead" was the idiot. Still do.

Autolycus
December 22, 2006, 05:24 AM
Here is another good clip...


Archie Bunker on Democrats (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fqCS7Y_kME&NR)

limbaughfan
December 22, 2006, 11:43 AM
all im trying to say is there is a little of Archie Bunker in everyone

mljdeckard
December 22, 2006, 12:35 PM
And yes, Denny Crane is a more subtle incarnation of the same thing. They just make him goofy and funny so he isn't despicable.

Series 70
December 22, 2006, 01:17 PM
I happen to think if everyone had a gun and an armed robbery took place, everybody would be shooting at everybody else, once the first shot was fired.

No, everyone would be shooting at the badguys with the masks on. If you're right there when it goes down, I think you'd be able to figure out who needs shooting.

mindwip
December 22, 2006, 04:37 PM
IT would be easy to figure it out. Its the guy yelling "everyone get on the floor, this here is a stick up." waving his gun around.


Or maybe like those guys that walked in to the bank with AKS and in full body armour. Hard to figure that one out.



Ps there have been plenty banks that were held up in the past, and it was armed citizens on the street that killed the outlaw. In fact some of the most famous bad guys in the west were shot by citizens with there rifles. I have a whole book about citizens who killed outlaws. I am looking for the title now, and will post it when i find it.


Found the link http://www.amazon.com/Outgunned-Stories-Citizens-Stood-Outlaws/dp/158182386X/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_b/102-1525269-3239365

mustanger98
December 22, 2006, 04:41 PM
there have been plenty banks that were held up in the past, and it was armed citizens on the street that killed the bad guy. In fact some of the most famous bad guys in the west were shot by citizens with there rifles. I have a whole book about citizens who killed bad men.

Two examples would be the James-Younger gang and IIRC the Daltons. I recall a book review once discussing where the author showed geneological connections between many of the Old West's most famous outlaws.

Joe Gunns
December 23, 2006, 03:24 PM
Yup. Dalton's bit off more than they could chew trying to rob two banks a once in Coffyville KS; the James-Younger gang got shot up by the good folks in Northfield MN. (Enjoyable flick on the latter is The Long Riders staring the Keach bros and the Carridene(sp?) bros as the Jameses and Youngers respectively.)

SoCalShooter
December 23, 2006, 03:33 PM
I really love "ALL IN THE FAMILY" such a good show.

Stevie-Ray
December 23, 2006, 09:55 PM
Thats exactley the point. No one would even THINK of robbing a bank because as soon as they did there would be a bank full of people pointing guns at them.In Chuck Norris' arguably best movie, Code of Silence, 2 perps decide to rob a bar where, unbeknownst to them, all the cops hang out after work. "OK mother******s" and suddenly 40 guns are pointed at them. Hillarious.

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