9mm Pistol


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doubleg
December 22, 2006, 10:58 PM
I am currently in the market for a full size 9mm pistol with a metal frame. I don't know exactley what I want. Looking for ideas, any suggestions?

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MrDig
December 22, 2006, 11:05 PM
FM M 95 Classic. Made under license from Browning Hi-Power Blue Prints.
$325.00 - $400.00 depending on how much you shop. About half the price of a BHP and uses the Same parts. A BHP $650.00 - $800.00 depending on options
Taurus or Berretta 92's are O'k but not to my preference I like the way those BHP's feel in my hands.
Can't recommend a polymer frame as I don't like them and you don't want one anyway.

Retro
December 22, 2006, 11:13 PM
Steel frame: Browning Hi-Power
Alloy frame: SigSauer, Beretta 92FS
Polymer frame: Glock, or HK USP

Now that I think about it, there arn't that many 9 mm pistols with steel frames.

Mark54g
December 22, 2006, 11:16 PM
Steel frame pistols give you some nice choices like:

CZ 75/85
CZ SP-01
Browning/FN Hi Power or clone
Ruger P series
Steel frame Sig P226

Aluminum frame gets you some like:

Beretta or Taurus 92 series
Sig P226
Not sure what else is out there in a true full size

Furncliff
December 22, 2006, 11:23 PM
CZ in any flavor

MMMike
December 22, 2006, 11:42 PM
Browning Hi-Power.....70+ years of excellent reliability and quality.

03Shadowbob
December 23, 2006, 07:03 AM
you can pick them up very cheap and they are well made, excellent guns that are pretty darn accurate. check www.budsgunshop.com.
I have had mine for 6 years and it has never jammed, misfired, anything. Best buy for the money in my opinion.

SAG0282
December 23, 2006, 07:29 AM
SIG Sauer P226. Everything else would settling. :D

MaterDei
December 23, 2006, 07:32 AM
CZ-75
Sig P226

Pilot
December 23, 2006, 07:48 AM
Browning Hi Power - a real one, not a clone if you can swing it
CZ-75B or compact CZ

10-Ring
December 23, 2006, 08:37 AM
Fullsize 9mm pistol...wow! you will have alot of options to choose from. In a steel gun, I like the Browning Hi Power and in aluminum, I like the Beretta 92 line of guns...fs, Elite or Brigadier all will work well for you
Enjoy your quest ;)

1911 guy
December 23, 2006, 08:59 AM
CZ and Hi-Power are the first to come to mind. Beretta, Sig and then there's the 1911 variants made by Caspian, STI and such. Somebody who was really into the 9mm could triple this list in about thirty seconds. There are plenty of options, as 10-ring said.

What do you intend to do with the pistol? If it's for range use only, Rugers offer some well built pistols, but they pretty much rule out CCW, as they conceal like a cinder block.

doubleg
December 23, 2006, 09:43 AM
It will be for the range and it will also be a nightstand gun.

Jamie C.
December 23, 2006, 10:08 AM
I am currently in the market for a full size 9mm pistol with a metal frame. I don't know exactley what I want. Looking for ideas, any suggestions?

You need to go at least handle, if not shoot, as many 9mm pistols as you can find and see which one you like, since all of us are probably more than a little biased. :p :rolleyes: :D


J.C.

Chipperman
December 23, 2006, 10:13 AM
HK P7M8 or P7M13.

Bring money.

doubleg
December 23, 2006, 10:14 AM
I'm likeing the m9a1 at the moment. How does the fininsh hold up? http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/7025/m9a1smallmaxice0.jpg

http://www.shopberetta.com/img_catalog/JG92FW_Large.jpg

doubleg
December 23, 2006, 10:18 AM
Ill have to upgrade to those nice looking walnut grips of course.:)

DogBonz
December 23, 2006, 10:28 AM
Just for fun, for no reason at all, I'd go with one (or more:D ) of the following in this order:
Sig 226
HK USP
Browning HP
Beretta 92

jjboogie
December 23, 2006, 10:41 AM
You just got to try as many as possible and don't rush into buying anything! Take your time trying out as many as possible. It does get expensive renting many guns however I think it is worth the time and money in the end. You want to feel really good with a firearm purchase!!!!

Mayo
December 23, 2006, 11:25 AM
Only 2 choices if you want the best:
1. HK P7M8
1a. SIG P226

zachsm
December 23, 2006, 11:33 AM
The finish takes a serious beating. The M9 right now can be found really cheap (at least the m9's without the rail) around the high 300 lower 400 before tax. Probably the best deal going on

except for the stoeger cougar. it used to be beretta but they sent all the equipment to stoeger to make them. seriously probably a best buy 350 when they used to sell for 650-700
a link http://www.gunsandammomag.com/ga_handguns/steoger8k_121106/

http://ostrowskiarms.pl/tym/beretta%208000%20cougar%20fD.jpg

DMK
December 23, 2006, 01:32 PM
Probably my favorite handgun of all time is the CZ-75 (http://www.czusa.com/product_detail.php?id=29). Mine was my first handgun about 6 years ago and still gets the most range time. I don't even know how many thousands of rounds I've put through it and it's never had a jam that wasn't due to bad ammo (I've shot a lot of cheap crap through it :o ). I just wish I had as much faith in the round as I do in the gun. Fortunately, it comes in a few sizes, capacities, action types and calibers, so there's a CZ-75 that should fit everyone's wants. One day I'm going to come across a full size CZ-75B in .40S&W locally and I'm going to buy it on the spot.

It also has an optional 22LR Kadet slide kit (http://www.czusa.com/product_detail.php?id=34) that turns it into a very accurate and fun 22 autoloader. I'd put mine up against a stock Buckmark or Ruger MkII for accuracy, reliability and ease of use any day.



http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=49760&stc=1&d=1166898375

Alan Fud
December 23, 2006, 08:55 PM
Sigs, S&W's third generation autoloaders, Beretta, etc.

dispatch
December 24, 2006, 12:06 AM
If you only want metal frame, go Ruger P89. My first step into composite frames was the Ruger P95 which I love. Not pretty pistols, but highly relable pistols.

conan
December 24, 2006, 12:23 AM
then there's the 1911 variants made by Caspian, STI and such.

Seems to be the best idea yet!

RevolvingCylinder
December 24, 2006, 01:19 AM
Mark54g, if I'm not mistaken the P-series are only available in aluminum and plastic frames. They're fine, excellent, rugged, all-American pistols though.

doubleg, if you like the Beretta go for it. The 'brunition' finish is OK and seems durable from what I've seen. As zachsm said, you can save money with a regular 92FS/M9 or a Stoeger(division of Beretta with a factory in Turkey) Cougar. If you want the M9A1 specifically, go for it.

CrackerJim
December 24, 2006, 05:33 PM
+1 on sig 226.

Jim

don95sml
December 24, 2006, 06:24 PM
+1 on the Browning Hi-Power, but only if you get the mag disconnect removed to improve the trigger pull. Any gunsmith can do it, but I believe there are also do-it-yourself directions on the internet. Second choice would be the CZ 75B if you have medium or large hands. For me (with small hands) the reach to the trigger is too long, except for the single action version.

gudel
December 24, 2006, 06:36 PM
I am currently in the market for a full size 9mm pistol with a metal frame. I don't know exactley what I want. Looking for ideas, any suggestions?

I would recommend the Beretta 92FS. Very good gun for the money.

SniperStraz
December 24, 2006, 07:16 PM
Theres no better gun on the market. Other guns I would suggest include the Walther/S&W P99 and the S&W m&p. I agree that it is very important for you to go a feel out what you like. Even if you can't shoot the guns just fondle them:) see what you like most and what fits best in your hand. Best of luck. -Sniper

modifiedbrowning
December 24, 2006, 09:14 PM
For the best 9mm look at the Walther P88, but be prepared to spend 1k or more.
For more affordable options look at the Cz-75 or Bersa Thunder 9 Fullsize.
If you open up to polymer look at the Walther P99.

Bazooka Joe71
December 24, 2006, 11:30 PM
I didn't read anyone else's posts, but I'll go ahead and add a +1 to any flavor of the CZ75.

shaggycat
December 25, 2006, 08:08 AM
I vote hi power. 75b if the hi power is too rich for your wallet.

the pistolero
December 25, 2006, 09:06 AM
I'll cast my vote for the Ruger P89. As 1911 guy said, they don't conceal well, but for your stated uses it'd be perfect. I have one and will never part with it.

doubleg
December 25, 2006, 01:37 PM
the last two i was seruisly thinking about getting were the p89 and the beretta


so i went to the range and i couldnt stand the mag release on the p89 so beretta it is!

i plan to make it look identical to this... also one last question is the finish on the m9 the same as the 92?

http://homepage.mac.com/franman/.Pictures/Handguns/92FS_Left_side_Dec_4_Beretta_Wood_with_Arno_croc_knife_640_no_serial.jpg

McCall911
December 25, 2006, 01:54 PM
Santa Claus just brought me a NIB Smith & Wesson 5906.

And Santa Claus knows what he's doing, right?

So Santa and I recommend that you at least check into it.

:D

P.S. That's one fine looking "Burrito" there, Doubleg!

JoeHatley
December 25, 2006, 04:46 PM
full size 9mm pistol with a metal frame

You might want to check out the S&W 952.

http://www.iowatelecom.net/~hatley/952_r.jpg

Nice shooter...

Joe

mmissile
December 26, 2006, 10:30 AM
$$ no object?? P7 series Hk, or Walther P88. Really no object?? SIG 210.:D

RustyShackelford
December 26, 2006, 10:37 AM
I saw a dealer selling 2 Sigarms P-226R 9mmNATO pistols. These are the DHS(Homeland Security) issue with the new DAK trigger system. I may buy one if I can get the $$$ together.

www.gunsamerica.com


PS: To learn more about the SIG P-226 series see www.sigarms.com . Also the R means these pistols have a tactical rail for white lights/laser aimers/etc.

Rusty S
:D

gandog56
December 26, 2006, 12:44 PM
Another vote for a Ruger P89. Shoots anny kind of crappy ammo I put in it and asks for more. And a heck of a lot cheaper than any of the others listed above. About the only pistol cheaper is a Hi-Point, which I would not touch with a 10 foot pole.

phoglund
December 26, 2006, 12:58 PM
CZ-75

Excellent gun for a very reasonable price. You will not be disappointed.

TC-TX
December 26, 2006, 01:12 PM
For Best Quality:

1) Browning Hi Power
2) Springfield EMP

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