Beretta 21 Bobcat anybody have one
ozarkhillbilly
December 23, 2006, 01:23 AM
I have no idea why I want one or what I would use it for but I want either a 22lr or 25acp Beretta Bobcat does anyone have any experience with them good or bad. I have a Tomcat 32acp that I like and thought one in 22 or 25 could be fun to have.
By the way my CCW gun is either a Sig 229 .357sig or a XD subcompact 9mm. So this would not be carried as a CCW unless I was caring it as a back up.
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Bill B.
December 23, 2006, 03:43 AM
I owned one in stainless and in 22 LR for about 2 years and found it completely reliable. I can't recall any feeding or functioning issues with any ammo I tried in mine; Remington, Winchester, CCI, Federal mostly from bulk packs. Accuracy was decent for the small sights in combo with my bifocals. Mine got traded for another .22 auto in a deal too good to pass up. I would still like to have mine back as it made a nice carry auto for the pocket.
ArchAngelCD
December 23, 2006, 04:40 AM
My cousin is a LEO and carries a Stainless .22LR while off-duty when his .38 Snub just can't be concealed. (like at the beach) He really loves that little Baretta. He has never had a problem with it.
Pilot
December 23, 2006, 07:52 AM
I carry one as a BUG. 100% reliable with CCI Minimags.
thunder
December 23, 2006, 08:01 AM
What kind of accuracy can one expect from this gun? It's pretty dang small :)
Steve H
December 23, 2006, 08:22 AM
Mine is a fun little gun. It doesn't like cheaper ammo (low power) so I stick with Mini Mags or Stingers and that keeps it happy. It really likes a clean chamber of it will start to FTE. For 5 - 10 yard plinking it's great fun.
mec
December 23, 2006, 08:27 AM
The Bobcats I've shot were completely reliable in 25 acp and would jam every fifty or 100 rounds with quality long rifles. The Beretta Minx- the 22 short version of the jet fire would get through a couple of hundred rounds between jams. Several 25 acp jetfires were completely reliable.
Tight groups in the head of a siloutte target at 15 yards are to be expected.
10-Ring
December 23, 2006, 08:31 AM
I had one...it was finicky for the right ammo and I eventually sold it. I now have a 25 cal Jetfire that has been fun to shoot & very easy to conceal.
GRIZ22
December 23, 2006, 09:16 AM
Mine is in 22 and reliable with any 22LR ammo. It is the only small 22 I've ever seen that will function with standard velocity 22 lr.
tubeshooter
December 23, 2006, 09:23 AM
I had one in .22LR. It was okay, I guess.... pretty well made.
Better keep it clean!
Mad Magyar
December 23, 2006, 09:27 AM
I found that my .22 would be fairly reliable with Yellow Jacket, or CCI Stinger hypervelocity loads....I sent the Beretta back to the factory twice for a look over, they tweaked it, but it was always the same....I would get a nose-up jam about once every two or three mags....If you are just out to the range, plinking, etc., no big deal, but I didn't trust it for much of anything else...:o
jjboogie
December 23, 2006, 10:14 AM
Yeah I got a Bobcat and it is a lot of fun to shoot. Very accurate for a mousegun.... My wife has the Tomcat and the thing practically fell a part at the range a week after we bought it. We have to send that thing back to Beretta. Yes I was dissapointed to say the least.
jondar
December 23, 2006, 11:10 AM
I bought my daughter a 21-A in .22LR. About two hundred rounds thru it and no FTF or FTE. The double action first shot trigger is horrible, but she chooses to leave one in the chamber and hammer down. If I carried it, it would be cocked and locked. All we have shot in it is Thunderbolts and so far they have proved great. YMMV.
crebralfix
December 23, 2006, 01:21 PM
I have had two and both were wonderful. I could hit a 10" x 10" plate at 50 yards about half the time with it.
Lloyd Smale
December 23, 2006, 03:06 PM
ive got a .25 950 and its never ever jammed. its probably got 1000 rounds through it and a couple hundred of those were gold dots. The .22s ive shot werent so reliable though.
461
December 23, 2006, 04:14 PM
I had a .25 years ago when I had the idea I needed one gun in every caliber made. Dumb Idea, it's never ending. :eek: Anyhow, that little Beretta impressed me quite a bit as it never jammed and was more accurate than my Single-Six at 25 yds.
ozarkhillbilly
December 23, 2006, 05:26 PM
Thanks for all the great info I think I will buy one after Christmas, now I just need to decide which one to get the 22lr or 25acp. I would think that in general that 25acps would be more reliable but more expensive to shoot, however I do not believe there would be any differance in stoping power between the two.
Crosstimbers Okie
December 23, 2006, 06:34 PM
I had a beautiful nickel plated one that I bought new in 1993. It was quite accurate for the kind of gun it is. My problem was that it didn't like cheap .22 ammo. It loved Stingers & Minimags, but was a regular choker on the stuff that comes in 500 rd. boxes. Not having an extractor can mean serious trouble when the chips are down and you have a malfunction, which is exactly why I got rid of mine.
browningguy
December 23, 2006, 07:02 PM
I've got a M. 21 in 25 ACP, been carrying it since about 1992. Never any FTF's or FTE's, absolute reliability. I carry mine in a pocket holster a lot, sometimes I just can't conceal anything bigger, but usually it's just along as the BUG. Mine stays loaded with either 35 gr. Gold Dots or Hornady XTP's.
Prince Yamato
December 23, 2006, 10:35 PM
I've got the bobcat in .22. If you get it, feed it stingers. It loves stingers. It does NOT like the bulk cheap remington that you buy for $9.99 at Walmart. I know that sounds like gun shop commando talk, but seriously, I think it just has to do with cycling of the slide. I know the gun isn't expensive, but my hunch is the Beretta engineers wanted people to think of the gun as a serious defense tool, not a plinker and expected it to fire good ammo. So, feed it the good stuff and you won't be disappointed.
mec
December 24, 2006, 07:26 AM
Funny you should mention stingers. One of my neighbors has a basically worn out pre-WWII colt woodsman that will function with nothing else.
bpisler
December 24, 2006, 08:41 AM
My 21A didn't like the bulk packaged ammo
at all.I-2 failures to feed was normal with
the Fed,Win and rem bulk packs.It did like
CCI minimags and Fed small game loads
the best,very reliable with these.
MICHAEL T
December 24, 2006, 10:08 AM
I have the old 950 in 25 auto Its been 100 reliable 950 is a SA where the 21 is a DA/SA other wise same basic pistol.
Just don't buy that Tauras PT-22 POS:what: I did what a mistake Get the real Beretta.
Bainx
December 25, 2006, 07:53 PM
I'm just the opposite. Mine will fire the cheapest .22 reliabily and that is all I feed it except when it is on 'standby'. Then it is loaded with Minimags which have better ignition than the cheap stuff.
KarlG
January 17, 2007, 09:26 AM
I bought a used Bobcat in 22 lr from a gun shop. I could not get it to function through an entire magazine (slight exageration). I tried eight to ten different types of quality ammo and kept detailed records of failure. I cleaned the gun every 50 to 100 rounds. After about 1500 rounds I had about a 20 percent failure rate. I took the gun back to the store and received full credit for it. The only positive thing about this gun was that it the point of aim was the point of impact.
I used my store credit to purchase a new in box Bobcat, also in 22 lr. My only trip to the range with the new gun was not positive. I did not keep detailed information, but I had several failures to feed with several types of ammo. No ammo performed flawlessly. The point of impact is about 3" low and 2" left of the point of aim at seven yards. Sights are not adjustable.
Mad Magyar
January 17, 2007, 03:13 PM
KarlG, that 1st .22Lr must have been the one I had since it was heading North.:D
I'm happy that some of you have had good shooting using the .22LR Beretta. What galls me is that the factory, it was no-charge twice, didn't help matters.:rolleyes:
KarlG
January 17, 2007, 11:45 PM
Mad Magyar, I think the whole situation is made worse by the fact that anything new or "factory repaired" comes with an invisable package of hope and excitement. Then it's like opening a broken toy on Christmas. It is such a long fall.
techmike
January 18, 2007, 07:58 AM
I've owned three 21's over the years. I really liked the fit and finish and the looks of them.
I really wanted to be able to use them as BUGs but I never could get any of the three to be 100% reliable with any ammo. Not stingers, mini mags, yellow jackets or anything else I could buy at the time. I tried running them well lubed and un-lubed.
Seeing so many other people with good luck makes me want to try another one.
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