Speedloader For Tubular Mag


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ArfinGreebly
December 26, 2006, 04:29 PM
Good afternoon, all.

As I was admiring the 1894C that Santa left, it ocurred to me that if you had to carry it unloaded, bringing it online in a hurry could be a real "oh, darn" moment.

Google brought no joy (or maybe I asked the wrong question).

Anyone here ever heard of a "speedloader" or "stripper" type loader for side-gated cowboy guns?

Specifically, mine are both Marlin: 336C and 1894C.

Y'all can answer when you've stopped chuckling.

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El Tejon
December 26, 2006, 05:00 PM
I remember those speedloaders for tube fed .22s and shotguns about 15 years ago or so but for the side gate weapons I cannot imagine anything functional, but hey that's why you ask.:D

Can't help you, but just curious, why would you leave an unloaded gun around? Very dangerous, at least to me. Do you have ankle biters about, Arfin.:)

ArfinGreebly
December 26, 2006, 05:25 PM
I have to do the research, but I'm not sure where Nevada law stands on "loaded rifle in the back of your Jeep."

We, ostensibly, have open carry, along with shall-issue.

We do have a couple of townships (in Clark County) with "nothing loaded" rules.

My thought was, in choosing a Jeep gun, I prefer the Marlin but, if I can't carry it loaded, I'd switch to one of the others.

Hadda ask, though.

roscoe
December 26, 2006, 06:48 PM
You could keep a bunch of cartridges on the stock in one of those cartridge holders, and load pretty quickly.

GLOCK19XDSC
December 26, 2006, 08:52 PM
This? I don't know if they have such a thing for centerfire.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/GNS120-44767-1172.html

ArfinGreebly
December 27, 2006, 03:06 AM
Inspired by the CheaperThanDirt entry (which works for end-loaded tubes only), I changed my search parameters.

Here's what I've found so far:
http://members.aol.com/scatrshot/tips/tips_index.htm
http://members.aol.com/scattershotspics/speedloading.jpg
Summary: length of copper tube, Speed loaders - No more "Cowboy" than a Gun Cart, but just as convenient! And my version is a LOT faster than those leather strips that have 10 loops on each side:

This idea makes the loading bench go much faster. When properly used, it makes it easier to load the correct number of bullets. This loader is made from 1/2 inch copper pipe, which fits my .44 and .45 cartridges perfectly. The bottom end is roll crimped down so that the bullets can't fall out, yet a pusher stick will fit through it. The top end is corked. The length is sized so that 6 cartridges will just fit.
http://members.aol.com/scattershotspics/speedloader.jpg
To use, just grab 2 from your gun cart. Uncork and remove enough cartridges so that the number remaining is correct for the stage you are shooting. If it's a 10-shot stage, I remove one from each speed loader. I put the extras in my gun belt or a pocket. When you fill your speed loader, DON'T drop the cartridges in. This causes the primer to get hit by the nose of the cartridge below it, with explosive results. Instead, push them in horizontally, like they are shown in the picture.

NOW COMES THE "SPEED" PART - Just put the open end of the tube against the loading gate of your rifle and hold it with your left hand. With your right hand, push the bullets in using your pusher stick. I can load 6 rounds into a tubular magazine in under two seconds.
http://members.aol.com/scattershotspics/speedloading.jpg

So now I have a project: Find the right diameter of copper tubing for .357, roll crimp one end, get a cork for the other, and find a length of dowel that will serve as pusher. I might even try a primitive follower.

Anything else you guys turn up will be welcome.

HiWayMan
December 27, 2006, 02:22 PM
If it is a .357 you can use an SKS stripper clip, but it plays merry hell with your gun's finish.

Father Knows Best
December 27, 2006, 02:30 PM
I've seen them used periodically by cowboy action shooters. They make them from copper pipe and a wooden dowel with a T on the end that acts as a handle/plunger. Just put the pipe end in the gate and push, and all the cartridges run into the tube lickety-split. I never bothered to make one because in cowboy shooting you load the rifle off the clock, so I didn't see the need.

I know that 3-gun competitors use similar devices for loading shotguns on the fly, also. I recall seeing a 3-gun competition on TV once where the competitors were starting the stage with three or four speedloaders full of shotshells dangling from their belts, and they used them to recharge the shotgun mags on the clock with lightning speed.

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