Crimson Trace vs. Laser Max Grips


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Miamitiger
December 27, 2006, 10:59 AM
I would like to know the following:

1) Which one is better?
2) What kind of battery do they use?...Is it expensive?
3) How dificult is turning them on.
4) Can you turn them on with either hand?
5) How do you zero them in?

Please help me I always want to be an inform buyer!

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Alan Fud
December 27, 2006, 01:14 PM
1) Which one is better? "better" is relative. LaserMax gives a pulsing beam. Crimson offers a brighter beam. LaserMax maintains it's zero. Crimson has to be zero'ed for a certain distance and will be a bit off before and after that distance.

2) What kind of battery do they use?...Is it expensive? Both are equally difficult to find.

3) How dificult is turning them on. LaserMax has an on button that is pushed 'on'. Crimson has a on button that is held 'on' with your grip.

4) Can you turn them on with either hand? Yes for the LaserMax because it is a steady 'on'. The Crimson is held on with the shooting hand.

5) How do you zero them in? LaserMax is zero'ed. For the Crimson, I got one of those barrel laser bullets and turned on the bullet and the Crimson and lined up both dots.

Phil DeGraves
December 27, 2006, 04:45 PM
Why would you want one???

Phil DeGraves
December 27, 2006, 04:46 PM
It's cheaper to just use the sights.

MaterDei
December 27, 2006, 04:49 PM
Why ask why?

Andrew S
December 27, 2006, 05:28 PM
It's cheaper to just use the sights.


It is cheaper to not shoot at all. It doesn't mean thats the best thing for you.

Rex B
December 27, 2006, 05:44 PM
If you zero the CT laser low and to the right by the same distance as it is on the gun, the trajectory and the laser will be more or less parallel for all reasonable SD distances. If you hit your target 1/2" to the left and 3/4" above your POI, it will probably be "close enough. That way divergence isn't an issue.

Just clamp the gun with borelaser and grip lasers on, mark the spots. Then move it to various distances, aligning to the bore laser each time, and adjust so the grip laser is the same distance away.

PX15
December 27, 2006, 06:03 PM
FWIW:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/Laserlips/100_4765.jpg

I can speak from personal experience with Crimson Trace Lasergrips.

The original 205 "boot" Lasergrips on my Airweight Bodyguard are amazing. At self defense distance, day or night the CT's offer you greatly improved potential accuracy.. Same with those on my Sig P239. I'm already "lobbying" for production of a set of LG's for my Walther P99c/AS.

I've found battery life to be excellent in both Lasergrips, and the batteries are common and available at your nearest Wally World, or almost any place that sells a reasonable selection of various batteries. Finding replacement batteries has never been a problem..... I change out my CT batteries each January just like my smoke alarms.. They are still going strong at that point, but the new batteries are so reasonably priced that I change 'em anyway.

Check out the Crimson Trace website some time. (www.crimsontrace.com). You will find friendly folks who are concerned about your satisfaction with the CT products, and back their concern by excellent customer service.

I notice recently where LaserMax has a "new" design which is basically the Crimson Trace Lasergrip w/slight changes. If imitation is the most sincere form of flattery I guess the designers at LaserMax are flattering the Crimson Trace design with their "new" models.

I think that Crimson Trace OR LaserMax are quality products. Either will probably provide you with a quality laser for your firearm.. I have just had such a good experience with the friendly folks at CT that those will always be my first choice.

If anyone tells you modern, "quality" firearm lasers aren't any good they have either been living in on a deserted island for the past decade, or they are simply hardheaded and have their minds made up, and aren't going to let "facts" get in their way...

More and more firearm professionals are now jumping on the "laser equipped" bandwagon, and my friends son (U.S. Army Scout/2 tours in Iraq/going back in January for a third tour) says our forces in Iraq and Afganistan are using them, big-time.....

Generally people who aren't enchanted by modern lasers still have great natural vision.... When Father time comes a'callin' and natural vision declines you'll start searching for whatever might enhance your accuracy.. For me, Crimson Trace Lasergrips do just that..

JMOFO

J. Pomeroy

RTFM
December 27, 2006, 06:12 PM
Looking only at the S&W J frames as comparison the Lasermax is $100 cheaper, but you must "tap" a button to turn it on, and "tap" the same button to turn it off.
This button does not appear to be in an intuitive location, unlike the Crimson Trace where it is located in your hand while gripping the pistol.

Sure would be embarrassing to have something "tap" on the Lasermax and you "red dotting" the floor at your feet.

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